G.r.o.z.

[Tristan]

I agree, They all have to go. Whoever is calling the offensive plays sucks too!

I was excited about the three four because of the way New England used it a couple of years ago before they lost their key players like Law & Mgginist.

I was under the impression that were aquiring all these players so that we could utilize the scheme at it's best. I thought the point was to be able to confuse and styme offenses with an array of disguised schemes and blitzez coming from everywher.

Well our 3-4 doesn't resemble the smash mouth, QB pounding NE 3-4 of a couple of years ago at all!

 

[Wolfpack]

It is just unbelievable that a defense can be as bad as we have been for the past month and hardly ANY adjustments being made.

Hopefully adjustments are made post season then...this isnt an "odd game"..its a theme.

On a hopefully related note, a family member got a call this week for an interview with Dallas in Feb.

 

[Billy Bullocks]

It is on Zimmer. Normally our offense shows up. I refuse to believe that it's the defenses fault. It has to come down to coaching. Zimmer is horrendous.

His passive scheme worked against Peyton Manning, so that seemed to be his saving grace.

Zimmer tries to run the 3-4 like a 4-3. That's where I see the biggest problem. Instead of disgusing the 4th rusher (one of the main ideas behind running the 3-4), he just sends Ware in as his 4th guy. I mean, there's no creativity at all.

With the talent we have, it's unreal as to how bad we are at times.

In all honesty, we all felt at least a year away at the start of the year, and it's proven true. There need to be some changes on this team in the off season, and getting a real 3-4 DC is the biggest one i can see.

Here's to hoping Crennel gets the boot in Clevland!

 

[Jimz31]

Hopefully adjustments are made post season then...this isnt an "odd game"..its a theme.

On a hopefully related note, a family member got a call this week for an interview with Dallas in Feb.

Related you say...with the team?

 

[Cochese]

This thread should be stickied until Zimmer is fired.

Today was the last straw as far as I am concerned.

 

[Joe_Fan]

The 3-4 sucks. I hate it.

Oh, I hate the 3-4 also.. well, at least the Zimmer version of it.

Now the real 3-4 D I absolutely love.

 

[Joe_Fan]

But in 03.....His D ranked 1st.??????

And...?

We got exposed for the fraud that it was in the playoffs.

I swear people look too much at the stats rather than watching how it actually is ran.

 

[Wolfpack]

Related you say...with the team?

Yes...details are pretty cloudy as you might guess at this point.

 

[Cbz40]

And...?

We got exposed for the fraud that it was in the playoffs.

I swear people look too much at the stats rather than watching how it actually is ran.

I was being
facetious.

 

[dallasfaniac]

I'm still not quite there.

I know there are things that should be changed, but I see too many players f-ing up themselves to lay it all on Zimmer. How Ferguson can get pushed back 5 yards plus EVERY snap is beyond me. How James can look so good at the beginning of the season and now just run around in circles not really doing anything. Canty and Spears rushing like they are running in water is not scheme, it's just poor condition or lack of strength or something. They probably couldn't sack Bledsoe at this point.

Ware is a monster from the LOLB position, we should rush him from that side more often. Williams needs to play some snaps at MLB and bring in Davis as the SS.

We need to mix some things up and the only thing I can think is we are saving some of these blitzes etc. for the post-season so the teams don't see them coming. Who knows.

 

[Chuck 54]

I say go back to the 4-3 for the playoffs.....it couldn't be any worse than our 3/4.

At least Zimmer knows that d.......I think

I'm on the wagon

CB, I honestly think we'd be better against the pass and the run in the 4-3, even without Ellis...I think we'd see our LB's start making plays again with a little protection.

 

[Achozen]

Yes...details are pretty cloudy as you might guess at this point.

Best news i've heard all hour!

 

[HoustonSucks]

For the Zimmer supporters, I have an honest question. Were Jim Johnson our D-Coordinator, do you think the outcome would be different? Forget the 3-4/4-3 situation, I'm wondering if the supporters are still saying it's more Player-execution over scheme? I believe coaches should put players in the best position to win - to maximize strengths and minimize weaknesses. Is that being done and the players are just falling shot b/c of a void in talent?

I'm interested in some answers.

 

[MetalHead]

Dear God:
Get rid of this ENTIRE coaching staff.

 

[Jimz31]

Yes...details are pretty cloudy as you might guess at this point.

Would he by chance be a coach? Like a Defensive coach?

 

[Jimz31]

For the Zimmer supporters, I have an honest question. Were Jim Johnson our D-Coordinator, do you think the outcome would be different? Forget the 3-4/4-3 situation, I'm wondering if the supporters are still saying it's more Player-execution over scheme? I believe coaches should put players in the best position to win - to maximize strengths and minimize weaknesses. Is that being done and the players are just falling shot b/c of a void in talent?

I'm interested in some answers.

Yes. the guy knows blitzes...he knows how to scheme, etc.

 

[DeaconBlues]

Yes, yes, yes, let's all blame Zimmer. After all, he installed the 3-4..

He drafted players just for this scheme.

He's calling the D to bend and not break, with minimal blitzes, because, as he so put it "I'd rather die slowly, than die quickly."

I really wish Zimmer would leave, so that next year, when the same D plays the same way with the same philosophy, maybe some (but of course not all) of you will get a clue and discover that Zimmer doesn't run the D.

BTW, let's also blame Zimmer on the way the O played. He had to be at fault for that, also.

 

[Jimz31]

Yes, yes, yes, let's all blame Zimmer. After all, he installed the 3-4..

He drafted players just for this scheme.

He's calling the D to bend and not break, with minimal blitzes, because, as he so put it "I'd rather die slowly, than die quickly."

I really wish Zimmer would leave, so that next year, when the same D plays the same way with the same philosophy, maybe some (but of course not all) of you will get a clue and discover that Zimmer doesn't run the D.

BTW, let's also blame Zimmer on the way the O played. He had to be at fault for that, also.

Who's the DC? If he was never cut out for the job, he should have declined it or BP shouldn't have installed it if he didn't think at the time that Zimmer could cut it.

Neither is without fault.

 

[DeaconBlues]

For the Zimmer supporters, I have an honest question. Were Jim Johnson our D-Coordinator, do you think the outcome would be different? Forget the 3-4/4-3 situation, I'm wondering if the supporters are still saying it's more Player-execution over scheme? I believe coaches should put players in the best position to win - to maximize strengths and minimize weaknesses. Is that being done and the players are just falling shot b/c of a void in talent?

I'm interested in some answers.

I'm not a supporter of any particular coach, but it does not matter who the D coordinator is, because under Parcels, it would not be his call as to how it is run. This is the D Parcels wants, and what you see on gamedays is how he wants it run.

 

[dallasfaniac]

For the Zimmer supporters, I have an honest question. Were Jim Johnson our D-Coordinator, do you think the outcome would be different? Forget the 3-4/4-3 situation, I'm wondering if the supporters are still saying it's more Player-execution over scheme? I believe coaches should put players in the best position to win - to maximize strengths and minimize weaknesses. Is that being done and the players are just falling shot b/c of a void in talent?

I'm interested in some answers.

You think the Howard sack was scheme? He just clubbed Rivera for the sack. I'm sorry, but our guys just flat out sucked and most of it was individual matchups on both offense and defense. Rivera flopping to the ground, Ferguson being pushed back, Owens running routes a foot from the sidelines, Hoyte and Witten whiffing blocks on 4th down. I think the coaches need to be held accountable for some of their playcalling, but even when the players were in the right spots, they f-ed up.