Garrett met with Murray during Mavs game

[BoysFan4ever]

I hope he stays.

 

[BAT]

Do you really think Murray is going to do that next year?

Greater likelihood that Murray does it again versus a rook doing it in his first season in the NFL.

 

[Bane]

I agree with your statement on the surface, but I don't think it is a fair way to analyze it. I don't believe you can just say that Murray is better than any other realistic replacement and end it there.

More fair would be to judge things this way:

Demarco Murray vs a realistic replacement PLUS whoever else they can sign with the extra money saved from not signing Demarco.

Well, I probably should have elaborated a bit more. Obviously I think we must make every realistic effort to re-sign Murray BUT not to the point that if he demands a very high salary we have absolutely no opportunities to improve our defense. At least that's my take. I love Murray, but I think if he isn't willing to cut a fair deal we're gonna have to bite the bullet and let him walk. I just don't see any way you can realistically replace Murray and go in to the 2015 season telling me that our offense isn't going to be worse. However, if we are able to improve our defense as a result, I could easily live with that.

 

[wileedog]

Greater likelihood that Murray does it again versus a rook doing it in his first season in the NFL.

It's not like Murray has had multiple 1800 yard seasons. He may never come close again given the workload he had this year.

 

[Bleu Star]

Greater likelihood that Murray does it again versus a rook doing it in his first season in the NFL.

They just don't get it dude. I feel you though. Romo's window is closing... & we want to completely cycle out the horse that provided a significant portion of our success. It truly baffles me.

Hello 8-8. We know you missed us.

 

[Bleu Star]

It's not like Murray has had multiple 1800 yard seasons. He may never come close again given the workload he had this year.

I'll bet money he pulls 1500 AND does everything else he did this year while fixing his overblown fumbling issue if he returns next year. I'm not a betting man but I will gladly put money on 1500.

Now tell me with a straight face that Gordon, Gurley, (insert any other rook draft pick here), Williams, or Dunbar are prepared to hit 1500 AND take care of the other intangibles that makes Demarco valuable next year to keep us moving forward before Romo's window shuts.

 

[cowboys2233]

I know. But dallas will be outbid by the jags or raiders. They hand demarco 9 mil a year and his chances at winning super bowl here arent any better in dallas then they would be in jacksonville because the defense is in shambles with no money to build it up. He will go for the money most likely and I dont fault him for that if he does.

I really have no idea what the heck you're talking about. This defense, with injuries to Sean Lee, among others, was good enough to win the SB THIS year. That was obviously due largely to the success of the offense but ANY team has to be viewed holistically, particularly with the salary cap. No team can be strong in every area, concessions need to be made. So our defense wasn't as strong as our offense. Guess what? Seattle's offense wasn't as strong as their defense. So now we're going to try and build up our defense by destroying a proven model of success on offense? Why? Why can't we build our defense through the draft, which is certainly financially feasible given the new rookie wage scale?

 

[wileedog]

I'll bet money he pulls 1500 AND does everything else he did this year while fixing his overblown fumbling issue if he returns next year. I'm not a betting man but I will gladly put money on 1500.

And I'd bet money he couldn't do that anywhere else but here. And that someone else can get close to that production for a fraction of the money, particularly with a loaded RB draft class coming up.

Plus Murray is looking for a deal well beyond Romo's window. What happens when we are grooming a young QB and we are saddled with a rapidly declining Murray because of his huge contract?

 

[Bleu Star]

And I'd bet money he couldn't do that anywhere else but here. And that someone else can get close to that production for a fraction of the money, particularly with a loaded RB draft class coming up.

Plus Murray is looking for a deal well beyond Romo's window. What happens when we are grooming a young QB and we are saddled with a rapidly declining Murray because of his huge contract?

You're blinded by the rest of the trash being thrown around in here. Let's just keep it simple. Sign Murray to 7.5 mil per year for the next 3 or 4 years. Keep Romo upright and in contention for the remainder of his window which is about another 2 years. Call it a wrap on offense and focus the draft/FA energy on the defensive side of the ball.

Regarding our offense, if it ain't broke don't break it.

 

[wileedog]

Now tell me with a straight face that Gordon, Gurley, (insert any other rook draft pick here), Williams, or Dunbar are prepared to hit 1500 AND take care of the other intangibles that makes Demarco valuable next year to keep us moving forward before Romo's window shuts.

I can't tell you with a straight face that Murray can hit 1500 yards next year. Do you have any understanding of the history of RBs who have more than 370 carries in one season and what they do subsequently?

We ABUSED Murray last season. Do you not think that is a large part of why we are not in the open bidding for him this year? Or that we didn't make an effort to sign him before he hit the open market?

 

[wileedog]

You're blinded by the rest of the trash being thrown around in here. Let's just keep it simple. Sign Murray to 7.5 mil per year for the next 3 or 4 years. Keep Romo upright and in contention for the remainder of his window which is about another 2 years. Call it a wrap on offense and focus the draft/FA energy on the defensive side of the ball.

Regarding our offense, if it ain't broke don't break it.

Yeah except the numbers being thrown around are 5 years, 50M. That's insanity.

He needs to be replaced sooner rather than later given his age and workload. Why not do it when there is one of the better RB drafts in recent memory about to happen?

 

[Bleu Star]

I can't tell you with a straight face that Murray can hit 1500 yards next year. Do you have any understanding of the history of RBs who have more than 370 carries in one season and what they do subsequently?

We ABUSED Murray last season. Do you not think that is a large part of why we are not in the open bidding for him this year?

Yeah. I have sat back and watched the backseat drivers run ever single metric down about how RBs do after a big season. There's no need to go there again. He will get 1500 if he comes back. Remember I said that. Frame it.

 

[wileedog]

Yeah. I have sat back and watched the backseat drivers run ever single metric down about how RBs do after a big season. There's no need to go there again. He will get 1500 if he comes back. Remember I said that. Frame it.

He's asking for too much money, he won't be back.

If we draft a top prospect back like Gurley or Ajayi he will get 1200 yards behind this line for a fraction of the cost. Remember I said that. Frame it.

And hopefully we will use the cost savings on the DL to make the team better overall.

 

[cowboys2233]

I can't tell you with a straight face that Murray can hit 1500 yards next year. Do you have any understanding of the history of RBs who have more than 370 carries in one season and what they do subsequently?

We ABUSED Murray last season. Do you not think that is a large part of why we are not in the open bidding for him this year? Or that we didn't make an effort to sign him before he hit the open market?

Tell me about Arian Foster and Marshawn Lynch. Tell me how they didn't have the second highest YPC of their careers this past year, despite the fact that they have been heavily used for multiple years? Oh, you can't? Hmmm, guess you should start thinking for yourself instead of just regurgitating what the media feeds you.

 

[Bleu Star]

Yeah except the numbers being thrown around are 5 years, 50M. That's insanity.

He needs to be replaced sooner rather than later given his age and workload. Why not do it when there is one of the better RB drafts in recent memory about to happen?

Last time I checked he was 26.

Over his 4 years in the league he has carried the ball 164, 161, 217, and 392 times. So I would consider most of this mess about him typical overreaction by those that probably don't like him anyway.

IMO, he is just coming into his own and doesn't take big hits.

He brings immense value to our offensive set and I would be thankful to have him back in the mix for a few more years with the rest of the offense.

 

[JoeBoBBY]

I'll bet money he pulls 1500 AND does everything else he did this year while fixing his overblown fumbling issue if he returns next year. I'm not a betting man but I will gladly put money on 1500.

Now tell me with a straight face that Gordon, Gurley, (insert any other rook draft pick here), Williams, or Dunbar are prepared to hit 1500 AND take care of the other intangibles that makes Demarco valuable next year to keep us moving forward before Romo's window shuts.

"before Romo's window shuts."

And thats what is so tough about letting him go.

I agree with the train of thought that says we can draft a RB , sign spiller and platoon the backs....
I dont want to be paying for Murrays contract when he is 30, and pretty much done.
I want a big time DE......

However.
Romo's window is 2 years. 3 years top.
Wittens window is 2 years. 3 years top.
We have a great shot to continue this momentum and challenge Seattle. GB next year.
The entire offense, head coach and team love Murray.


This is a tough decision for the FO. But at this point, if not Murray, then who? Peterson wont be coming, and if he does, we will have to pay him just the same as Murray....?? And , I think that would be a mistake. Murray is more important to the Cowboys. Every other team , its AP. But in Dallas Murray is more valuable.....

Cowboys need to come up. Murray needs to come down. its in the best interest of DM and the best interest of the Dallas Cowboys........The Cowboys make him better and he makes the Cowboys better.

Get it done. take your break, but start thinking about making a run at the Super Bowl.

 

[Bleu Star]

He's asking for too much money, he won't be back.

If we draft a top prospect back like Gurley or Ajayi he will get 1200 yards behind this line for a fraction of the cost. Remember I said that. Frame it.

And hopefully we will use the cost savings on the DL to make the team better overall.

The media is blinding you. Let's hope for our sake that we find a way to keep Murray.

 

[Bleu Star]

"before Romo's window shuts."

And thats what is so tough about letting him go.

I agree with the train of thought that says we can draft a RB , sign spiller and platoon the backs....
I dont want to be paying for Murrays contract when he is 30, and pretty much done.
I want a big time DE......

However.
Romo's window is 2 years. 3 years top.
Wittens window is 2 years. 3 years top.
We have a great shot to continue this momentum and challenge Seattle. GB next year.
The entire offense, head coach and team love Murray.


This is a tough decision for the FO. But at this point, if not Murray, then who? Peterson wont be coming, and if he does, we will have to pay him just the same as Murray....?? And , I think that would be a mistake. Murray is more important to the Cowboys. Every other team , its AP. But in Dallas Murray is more valuable.....

Cowboys need to come up. Murray needs to come down. its in the best interest of DM and the best interest of the Dallas Cowboys........The Cowboys make him better and he makes the Cowboys better.

Get it done. take your break, but start thinking about making a run at the Super Bowl.

Great read. Thanks.

 

[cowboys2233]

Last time I checked he was 26.

Over his 4 years in the league he has carried the ball 164, 161, 217, and 392 times. So I would consider most of this mess about him typical overreaction by those that probably don't like him anyway.

IMO, he is just coming into his own and doesn't take big hits.

He brings immense value to our offensive set and I would be thankful to have him back in the mix for a few more years with the rest of the offense.

Thank you for bringing some common sense back to this board. I swear, some of you are like mindless zombies, just repeating whatever the media tells you, word for word.

 

[wileedog]

Tell me about Arian Foster and Marshawn Lynch. Tell me how they didn't have the second highest YPC of their careers this past year, despite the fact that they have been heavily used for multiple years? Oh, you can't? Hmmm, guess you should start thinking for yourself instead of just regurgitating what the media feeds you.

The most touches Foster has had is 390. Lynch 383, Murray had 450. Can we start listing the multitude of the guys other than Foster and Lynch who broke down after a workload like that?