Garrett- perfect puppet for Jerry

[CATCH17]

Who chooses those coaches?
There’s where the ultimate blame lies.

Completely agree. Jerry's ego is this franchises #1 problem but he is so powerful that all we can hope for is the best work around and after 10 years JAson Garrett has proven he is not it.

 

[Diehardblues]

But if you listen to Jerry now, he seems pretty sure he's put together a SB caliber roster. So at some point, he is going to demand results and won't be able to cover for Garrett much longer. I think he can be loyal to a fault but he's also not stupid. He's likely going to realize in short order (if he hasn't already) he might have a coaching issue.

I think he likes Garrett a lot and thinks he can give him a good enough roster and give him good assistants and it will overcome whatever deficiencies Garrett has. But at some point, if everything Jerry has done isn't working, he's going to make the call on Garrett. It could come after this season if Garrett doesn't deliver.

FWIW, I tend to agree that we have a pretty good roster that could make noise with the proper coaching. SB? Not sure about that but this team definitely should be better than they were in 2018.

The first mistake is listening to Jerry. He’s simply promoting his product. And when it doesn’t meet expectations has to go into Damage Control to find excuses or scapegoats. It’s a vicious cycle no other owner places their team in. All to keep himself and the Cowboys front and center selling more hope for the fans and interest by media.

Jerry can address the coaching situation anytime he chooses but is limited with prospects who’d fall into his meddling type of ownership. The current status is manageable for him as long as team is relevant unless revenue slipped.

I’m not sure how good of team we are? We were 3-5 early until Cooper came along. And 9-7 in 2016 going 3-3 without Elliott. So pending a couple pieces are probably closer to a .500 team than upper echelon. Most oddsmakers are placing us in the 4th -7th slot in NFC. Not even picked to win our division.

Most of the upper tier teams either have a top 5 defense or offense and QB. We don’t have any of those and why we’re probably in the next tier of teams about where we finished.

I felt like last year we probably over achieved especially based on how we finished in 2017 and begun 2018.

 

[charron]

Jerry wants someone he can control but that he also likes.

Sean Payton is the guy but then the problem is Jerry doesn't believe in paying coaches and someone will give Payton a ton of money.

Jerry's ego is our problem Monday-Saturday and Jason Garrett is our problem on Sunday's.

You can't just win on talent alone anymore because the salary cap doesn't allow teams to stockpile talent so coaching is at an all time importance and we just lack coaches that scheme well.

I think our coaches are great at teaching the fundamentals but there is no next step. It's just fundamental football and if it doesn't work we just take the L.

Payton is not the guy. Why would he come here? Will jerry/ stephen give him the same control over the team he currently has? The last coach to come in with the ability to hire and fire his own staff was parcells and that is only to build support for a new stadium. That is not happening again anytime soon.

 

[Doomsday101]

I think by the Joneses not signing him and the timing of Sean Payton's contract ending means he's going to be fired. This season JG is coaching for his next prospect

I again I highly doubt it, Payton name was rumored and he has denied any interest. He is paid the highest of any HC and is having a lot of success and would have made the SB had it not been for a blown call in the Rams game. I think NO will have every intention of signing him and with Brees in the final year of his deal and a still fairly young QB in Bridgewater sitting behind Brees I would think NO would do what they can to keep Payton to further develop Bridgewater.

As for Garrett I think how this team does will determine his future on this team. Not the 1st time Garrett entered a season as a so called lame duck HC on the last year of his contract

 

[CATCH17]

Payton is not the guy. Why would he come here? Will jerry/ stephen give him the same control over the team he currently has? The last coach to come in with the ability to hire and fire his own staff was parcells and that is only to build support for a new stadium. That is not happening again anytime soon.

He and Jerry are buds and Payton is so well respected that if Jerry were truly interested in winning he could just give Payton the money and sit back and not worry.

McClay selecting players and Payton coaching them would be a championship combo.

 

[Sydla]

The first mistake is listening to Jerry. He’s simply promoting his product. And when it doesn’t meet expectations has to go into Damage Control to find excuses or scapegoats. It’s a vicious cycle no other owner places their team in. All to keep himself and the Cowboys front and center selling more hope for the fans and interest by media.

Jerry can address the coaching situation anytime he chooses but is limited with prospects who’d fall into his meddling type of ownership. The current status is manageable for him as long as team is relevant unless revenue slipped.

I’m not sure how good of team we are? We were 3-5 early until Cooper came along. And 9-7 in 2016 going 3-3 without Elliott. So pending a couple pieces are probably closer to a .500 team than upper echelon. Most oddsmakers are placing us in the 4th -7th slot in NFC. Not even picked to win our division.

Most of the upper tier teams either have a top 5 defense or offense and QB. We don’t have any of those and why we’re probably in the next tier of teams about where we finished.

I felt like last year we probably over achieved especially based on how we finished in 2017 and begun 2018.

He and his son have been particularly bullish this offseason. Moreso than in previous seasons. I think you are overestimating how much longer Jerry will cover for Garrett.

Further, the reason we are picked 4th through 7th in the NFC isn't because of the roster solely............. it's because of who the head coach is. In fact, if you read many of the previews about the 2019 team, one of the first questions brought up is just how good Garrett is.

 

[charron]

He and Jerry are buds and Payton is so well respected that if Jerry were truly interested in winning he could just give Payton the money and sit back and not worry.

McClay selecting players and Payton coaching them would be a championship combo.

But why leave the team he built? Why come to dallas? They love him down there. Why would Payton leave his team? They were close to beating the rams and have won a SB there, so he is not being run out of town.

 

[CATCH17]

But why leave the team he built? Why come to dallas? They love him down there. Why would Payton leave his team? They were close to beating the rams and have won a SB there, so he is not being run out of town.

Breese retiring soon, new ownership, bigger stage in Dallas, young roster in Dallas. I believe he lives in this area.

There are several reasons.

 

[cern]

garrett's major concern now is keeping Stephen happy. Stephen holds players and coaches both accountable, as evidenced by players being released and coaches being fired in the last few years. the hall is rented, the cast assembled, the stage is set. time for jg to win or move on.

 

[glimmerman]

Breese retiring soon, new ownership, bigger stage in Dallas, young roster in Dallas. I believe he lives in this area.

There are several reasons.

JG is not getting a extension. I think JJ is leaving the option open.. What if we win it all this year, does JJ make the change.

 

[Doomsday101]

This rumor was floated back in 2012 as well.
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap10...the-dallas-cowboys-is-a-very-real-possibility

Talk of new ownership with Benson gone and yet in the end it was just that a rumor that gets floated and a bunch of cheese eater taking the cheese. lol Could it happen? sure anything is possible, But hey there was rumored by people who know Belicheck that back in 2017 said he would only coach 2 or 3 more season so if you want to float a rumor why would Kraft not make a play for Payton? Unlikely but just as likely as Payton going to Dallas. Myself I think Payton stays up

 

[glimmerman]

This rumor was floated back in 2012 as well.
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap10...the-dallas-cowboys-is-a-very-real-possibility

Talk of new ownership with Benson gone and yet in the end it was just that a rumor that gets floated and a bunch of cheese eater taking the cheese. lol Could it happen? sure anything is possible, But hey there was rumored by people who know Belicheck that back in 2017 said he would only coach 2 or 3 more season so if you want to float a rumor why would Kraft not make a play for Payton? Unlikely but just as likely as Payton going to Dallas. Myself I think Payton stays up

If we win back to back division titles then it will be enough for JJ to keep his puppet..

 

[Doomsday101]

If we win back to back division titles then it will be enough for JJ to keep his puppet..

I don't think Garrett is a puppet to begin with. I think he has a chance to earn the extension but I think he will have to put together a very good season and give Jones a reason. This is not the 1st time Garrett entered a season on the final year of his contract. Heading into the 2014 season was the final year of the deal. Dallas would win the East and lose vs GB over a controversial ruling of the Dez catch/ no catch. Team played really well that season and Garrett contract was extended. Having said that I do think making post season alone will not be good enough

 

[charron]

Breese retiring soon, new ownership, bigger stage in Dallas, young roster in Dallas. I believe he lives in this area.

There are several reasons.

He still lives in westlake up the street. the stage is a non factor. new ownership isn't always bad. Brees retiring may factor in it unless they draft his replacement. but the drawback is having to deal with a medling ownership group here. not having control of personnel, may not have control of your coaches either. Heck garretts been here 8 years and still had no authority to fire linehan when he wanted, had to get stephen on board.

 

[Diehardblues]

He and his son have been particularly bullish this offseason. Moreso than in previous seasons. I think you are overestimating how much longer Jerry will cover for Garrett.

Further, the reason we are picked 4th through 7th in the NFC isn't because of the roster solely............. it's because of who the head coach is. In fact, if you read many of the previews about the 2019 team, one of the first questions brought up is just how good Garrett is.

He was good enough to win Coach of the year. His winning percentage is in upper half of the league during his tenure. In last 3 years only Belichick and Pats have more wins. The knocks on Garrett mainly stem from lack of success in playoffs.

He’s an easy target for some. Like with Romo there’s a couple huge blunders we can point to and without more success in playoffs can form a negative narrative.

But how good is Garrett. That’s a tough question. Not sure how else we rate that without speculative opinions than his record which isn’t as bad as some make him out to be. It’s tough for me to compare him to other more normal situations around the NFL.

 

[ConstantReboot]

Fans have to look past Garrett’s field general weaknesses for his greater contribution as a walk around advisor to our GM. The influences over Jerry in the culture of our team and franchise are Garretts greatest assets to the Dallas Cowboys.

Garrett’s asset is propping up our dysfunctionally led franchise from the distractions which would be in total shambles like it was before Parcells resurrected it from the ashes because Jerry is unwilling to let anyone else run football operations including his son. And doesn’t want a more reputable HC who could receive more credit like Jimmy did.

Garrett’s criticism feeds perfectly into Jerry’s agenda. Jerry can handle and deflect the public outcry unlike anyone I can recall in recent sports history. The more criticism Garrett takes the more credit Jerry could receive if they have more success.

As long as Garrett can prevent the team from collapsing remaining relevant , Jerry can continue freewheeling and manage the rest.

Will Mckay has succeeded in doing his job. Why can't Garrett? Garrett has been with this team for more than a decade. Yet he still doesn't know how to coach. How much longer must we give this coach in training as many chances that he needs in order to learn how to coach?

 

[Them]

...No matter...This season should change the narrative completely...Then you can write new "Topics."...

 

[Diehardblues]

Yeah, sure.

Obviously you haven’t followed me over the years or you’d know I’ve been supportive of Garrett since the night he took over in the Meadowlands.

 

[Rockport]

Obviously you haven’t followed me over the years or you’d know I’ve been supportive of Garrett since the night he took over in the Meadowlands.

Sorry then. I’m shaded by the abundance of haters.

 

[Diehardblues]

Will Mckay has succeeded in doing his job. Why can't Garrett? Garrett has been with this team for more than a decade. Yet he still doesn't know how to coach. How much longer must we give this coach in training as many chances that he needs in order to learn how to coach?

He’s already coaching. Only the 3rd HC in Cowboy history to win Coach of the year. He’s the 2nd All Time in Cowboys history in total wins.

And the Perfect Puppet for Jerry.