Garrett record compared to others?

[Dre11]

Who cares if Garrett was a good prospect in 2010. Doubt he'd get much of a look now except maybe from the scrubs of the league. Mediocrity just goes on and on and on with no end in sight. That's Garrett.

Having a top 10 QB all time leading it. Romo would often audible out of whatever the idiot puppet sent from the sideline.

That has got to be the dumbest explanation, where the hell do you think the audibles come from?....lol They're built in the scheme do you think Romo just made them up?...lol every qb in the league uses an audible system within they're scheme...priceless

 

[Dre11]

You mean last year when as the number one seed the team was "one and done"?

That is your measuring stick of a "great season"?

What's next, building a statue of Garrett outside the stadium to commemorate his lone playoff victory? Think about it, it could be total awesome and it could be engraved with the saying "I was there, on that day, and saw it happen". You could even pretend that game was for a Championship and just like the Rocky statue in Philly, they both can be "pretend champions". I mean, just look at how much Philly enjoys their statue of a pretend champion, Garrett's statue could be just like this!!!

With the team the personnel they fielded, they should've been hard pressed to win 5 games. They started a rookie 4th rounder at the most important position, along with a rookie Rb...sheesh. Hence the COY award for an outstanding coaching job. How many games did you expect to win when Romo went down. Folks were lining up to jump off ledges....lol

 

[Dre11]

This is such a simplistic look at this.

I am sure Garrett knows Xs and Os and can explain to you the difference between 11 personnel, 12 personnel and 13 personnel and explain a route tree and understand ways to combat certain defensive formations.

But almost all people in the NFL can do that. What separates the great coaches from the chum goes beyond Xs and Os. The ability to adapt, for example. The ability to just have a feel for how a game is going and what needs to change. The ability to almost get inside the head of the other coaching staff and be one step ahead of them in a big game.

These are things where I think Garrett lacks the acumen to be an upper echelon coach. Sure, he can stand at a white board and draw up plays and dazzle you with his knowledge. He's a smart guy. But I think where he struggles is quick thinking on his feet, the ability to see the flow of a game and adapt, the ability to figure out ways to overcome speed bumps during a season, a game, etc.

And yes, it matters that the Ravens wanted him 10 years ago. Because 10 years later we now have a track record on Garrett. And it's not great.

So you want him to be great? How many HC are great in the NFL? The majority are average to just good, so who's the next great HC out there to be had?

 

[Dre11]

TONY FREAKING ROMO that is how.

Isn't a good qb, the reason all successful offenses work?

So Romo didn't run his system? He played backyard football by himself and beat defenses.....large!!!

 

[Big_D]

So Romo didn't run his system? He played backyard football by himself and beat defenses.....large!!!

He made things happen. Romo escped the rush and found the open receiver. The success of the offense had much more to do with him being a miracle worker than it did Garretts scheme. Any coach can make Romo, T.O. and Witten work. Yet the run game was complete garbage.. averaged about 6 TDs a year. The worst in team history up until 2014. Rushing TDs completely disappeared in Garretts offense.

 

[Dre11]

He made things happen. Romo escped the rush and found the open receiver. The success of the offense had much more to do with him being a miracle worker than it did Garretts scheme. Any coach can make Romo, T.O. and Witten work. Yet the run game was complete garbage.. averaged about 6 TDs a year. The worst in team history up until 2014. Rushing TDs completely disappeared in Garretts offense.

Are you guys this freaking foolish? He played within the system. Which is Norv's system.The reason he ran around is because the OL was subpar for years. And know the run game wasn't garbage, it was average. Barber was good in it and Murray was average until the OL came together. We didn't run the ball enough and a lot of that had to do with Romo checking to passes every time he saw unfavorable boxes.

 

[Big_D]

Are you guys this freaking foolish? He played within the system. Which is Norv's system.The reason he ran around is because the OL was subpar for years. And know the run game wasn't garbage, it was average. Barber was good in it and Murray was average until the OL came together. We didn't run the ball enough and a lot of that had to do with Romo checking to passes every time he saw unfavorable boxes.

Worked within the scheme? lol It was the famous Romo spin move, run around and then find the open guy. That was it and any coach could've done it. Didn't look like the Norv Turner scheme of the early 90's that's for sure. Now they have the best Oline and RB in football and still blame the QB for checking out of run plays on a regular basis or go empty backfield. apparently the HC has no say in the matter?

 

[Dre11]

Worked within the scheme? lol It was the famous Romo spin move, run around and then find the open guy. That was it and any coach could've done it. Didn't look like the Norv Turner scheme of the early 90's that's for sure. Now they have the best Oline and RB in football and still blame the QB for checking out of run plays on a regular basis or go empty backfield. apparently the HC has no say in the matter?

So Romo did this on every pass? You say Romo play off schedule and you think that's all he did...you are football dumb.

 

[Sydla]

So you want him to be great? How many HC are great in the NFL? The majority are average to just good, so who's the next great HC out there to be had?

So your position is we shouldn’t get rid of Garrett because it’s really, really tough to get a great coach. Therefore we should be happy with garrett and hope against reality he turns into a SB caliber coach.

LOL.

 

[Dre11]

Worked within the scheme? lol It was the famous Romo spin move, run around and then find the open guy. That was it and any coach could've done it. Didn't look like the Norv Turner scheme of the early 90's that's for sure. Now they have the best Oline and RB in football and still blame the QB for checking out of run plays on a regular basis or go empty backfield. apparently the HC has no say in the matter?

As far as the checks rpos are prevalent in the league, and a ZEKE said they worked before in the same situation, and nobody complained when they work.

 

[Big_D]

So Romo did this on every pass? You say Romo play off schedule and you think that's all he did...you are football dumb.

You can't handle the truth. Any coach could've came in, not run the ball and made Romo, T.O. and Witten a quality passing attack. You're argument is ridiculous. I guess they should thank Garrett for turning them into studs? Not like the offense wasn't good the year before he got here. Garrett really turned things around. lol Took an offense that was already good and turned the ground game into bottom feeders while the passing attack saved his job on a regular basis.

 

[Keithfansince5]

You mean last year when as the number one seed the team was "one and done"?

That is your measuring stick of a "great season"?

What's next, building a statue of Garrett outside the stadium to commemorate his lone playoff victory? Think about it, it could be total awesome and it could be engraved with the saying "I was there, on that day, and saw it happen". You could even pretend that game was for a Championship and just like the Rocky statue in Philly, they both can be "pretend champions". I mean, just look at how much Philly enjoys their statue of a pretend champion, Garrett's statue could be just like this!!!

Just make Garrett's out of plastic that way it won't be real Bronze it will be pretend bronze just like he is a pretend HC.

 

[Keithfansince5]

Isn't a good qb, the reason all successful offenses work?

So Romo didn't run his system? He played backyard football by himself and beat defenses.....large!!!

So if I may ask, what is it about the Garrett system that enamors you so much? Is it how he boldly raises 1 finger to the sky for an extra point after every TD that does it for you?. Is it the way he claps when his team fails on a play? What is so mighty about Garrett's system that we all can't live without? Do tell.

 

[Darthkuriboh]

That has got to be the dumbest explanation, where the hell do you think the audibles come from?....lol They're built in the scheme do you think Romo just made them up?...lol every qb in the league uses an audible system within they're scheme...priceless

Okay, so we've found the Harris of this board. Obviously doesn't have the ability to think.

Let me explain it slowly in the smallest words I know so that you understand better.

Romo. Audibled. Out. Of. Almost. Every. Playcall. Because. The. Play. calling. sucked. ***. Garrett. Had. his. play. calling. duties. taken. away. because. he. was. awful.

Does that explain it well enough?

 

[visionary]

I understand and I’m not advocating Garrett is a good coach. What I am advocating is Garrett appears to be the best puppet Jerry has had influencing Jerry in attempting to assemble a more talented team which I believe is only way to overcome it all.. more talent.

The worse that can happen is we return back to the collapse we had when Garrett took over or the 5-11 funk before Bill took over. As frustrating as it’s been under Garrett I actually believe we’ve assembled the best team since Parcells and been as close to the brink of a championship appearance since that Parcells built team.

I’m not prepared to throw it all away for the next no name or washed up puppet. I don’t often agree with Jerry but we are invested in Garrett even if it doesn’t have the same meaning.

Hey, we’re stuck as you say with Jerry’s agenda. I’m just looking for the best means to overcome it and from what I’ve seen this century unless your bringing in another Parcells type this could be it. Even with Bill we didn’t have much more success.

Part of it is I’ve kinda of resigned to the notion we can do much better in this dysfunctional situation with Jerry’s stranglehold and have lowered my expectations . I like Garrett and his connection to our glorious history and if I’m going to have to root for a puppet I like him personally and am rooting for him.

My greater concern is our talent and why I have such worries at key positions like QB because we need elite talent to overcome. Last year I thought we might have it now Im not so sure.

You can't have elite talent at all key positions abd even then players get injured

At some point the coaching staff has to make the difference and we will always behind the 8 ball against the teams that we will play in the playoffs

Remember that we need to beat 3-4 of the top teams in a row to win a SB. Do you have any faith Garrett can do that? I don't

 

[Beast_from_East]

Just make Garrett's out of plastic that way it won't be real Bronze it will be pretend bronze just like he is a pretend HC.

Excellent idea

 

[Diehardblues]

You can't have elite talent at all key positions abd even then players get injured

At some point the coaching staff has to make the difference and we will always behind the 8 ball against the teams that we will play in the playoffs

Remember that we need to beat 3-4 of the top teams in a row to win a SB. Do you have any faith Garrett can do that? I don't

No, I don’t but I don’t believe a quality coach is a viable option with Jerry.

Your right. We need all of our talent on the field like in 2014 and 2016 to contend. We can’t expect our coaching to overcome.

And why my objective is continue to bring in more talent . Elite talent !!

 

[visionary]

No, I don’t but I don’t believe a quality coach is a viable option with Jerry.

Your right. We need all of our talent on the field like in 2014 and 2016 to contend. We can’t expect our coaching to overcome.

And why my objective is continue to bring in more talent . Elite talent !!

Agree to disagree buddy
I think the only way to move forward is once Garrett leaves

 

[Dre11]

You can't handle the truth. Any coach could've came in, not run the ball and made Romo, T.O. and Witten a quality passing attack. You're argument is ridiculous. I guess they should thank Garrett for turning them into studs? Not like the offense wasn't good the year before he got here. Garrett really turned things around. lol Took an offense that was already good and turned the ground game into bottom feeders while the passing attack saved his job on a regular basis.

 

[Darthkuriboh]

That's bull**** and you're dumb as sh* if you believe that. If even if he audibles out of a play, it was still to a play within in the offense. Are you this damn dumb or just playing dumb.
And play calling wasn't taken because he sucked, Jerry wanted him to focused on all aspect of the team.

Dude if a fight is what you're looking for, I have better things to do with my time. I make a very good living in IT. Pretty sure I'm a pretty smart guy. Everyone who's ever met me would agree.

Fact is, you can't actually rebut a single thing I've said. All you have is ad hominem attacks. I'm willing to wager you've never actually had anyone here willing to stand up to you. Well, if you really need verbally beaten down, I'm your huckleberry.