Garrett record compared to others?

Dre11

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Maybe because the argument is old and worn out, not to mention foolish after 8 years of Garrett. Let's keep comparing him to SB winning coaches if it makes you and others feel better.
It's not worn out, what's funny is nobody had a thing to say last year. Just shows how fickle some fans are.
 

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2016. 13-3. Won the Division. Bye week. #1 Seed. Garrett and the coaching staff got embarrassed at home against the Packers in the divisional round. The same Packers who got blown out the very next week by the Falcons.

Keep making excuses for this failed franchise if you want. But Jerry Jones and Jason Garrett will never take the Cowboys into a deep playoff run. Never. All the proof you need is the results from the field of play over the last 20+ years.

But don't take my word for it. Google it. I know 20+ years is a very long time. Might take a while to research the pattern.

Let us know what you think when you're ready.
 

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It's not worn out, what's funny is nobody had a thing to say last year. Just shows how fickle some fans are.

You're just talking nonsense. We were somewhat successful last year. See how that works? When we see some success with a young QB, logical folks tend to give the team the benefit of the doubt and be positive. We expected some type of trend and consistency. When the team under it's current HC continues a pattern of tanking the following year, he'll get criticized after 8 years of nothing burgers. There's nothing "fickle" about it.
 

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You're just talking nonsense. We were somewhat successful last year. See how that works? When we see some success with a young QB, logical folks tend to give the team the benefit of the doubt and be positive. We expected some type of trend and consistency. When the team under it's current HC continues a pattern of tanking the following year, he'll get criticized after 8 years of nothing burgers. There's nothing "fickle" about it.

So where were yo last year? You mean to tell me you expected success with a 4th round rookie qb and a rookie OL once the franchise qb went down? I'd say that was a hell of a coaching job. Now you're telling the man forgot how to coach in one year. OK.
 

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2016. 13-3. Won the Division. Bye week. #1 Seed. Garrett and the coaching staff got embarrassed at home against the Packers in the divisional round. The same Packers who got blown out the very next week by the Falcons.

Keep making excuses for this failed franchise if you want. But Jerry Jones and Jason Garrett will never take the Cowboys into a deep playoff run. Never. All the proof you need is the results from the field of play over the last 20+ years.

But don't take my word for it. Google it. I know 20+ years is a very long time. Might take a while to research the pattern.

Let us know what you think when you're ready.

Then go find another franchise to root for if it's that bad. Why subject yourself to this horrible franchise. It's insane.
 

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So where were yo last year? You mean to tell me you expected success with a 4th round rookie qb and a rookie OL once the franchise qb went down? I'd say that was a hell of a coaching job. Now you're telling the man forgot how to coach in one year. OK.

You're judged by results. That's life. Live with it.
 

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Why don't you go find another team if you can't handle some criticism of your man crush. Go root for NE. I bet it's been pretty rosy over there for a few years.

You're the one bit** and complaining, I gave you a solution. This isn't for the weak. We don't need weak minded fans.
 

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So are you saying that if we collectively put everyone's brain cells together on CZ and, combined with your one brain cell, we can influence the outcome of games? Count me in.

It would take all your brain cells to equal my one. We still don't need you as a fan
 

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So where were yo last year? You mean to tell me you expected success with a 4th round rookie qb and a rookie OL once the franchise qb went down? I'd say that was a hell of a coaching job. Now you're telling the man forgot how to coach in one year. OK.

I agree completely that 2016 was an outstanding coaching job - as good as 2015 was bad. They modified the offensive scheme and play calling to accommodate Dak's inexperience and weaknesses. Unfortunately, I think it set unreasonable expectations for a rookie, 4th-round, project QB which were bound to be unmet this year.
 

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So where were yo last year? You mean to tell me you expected success with a 4th round rookie qb and a rookie OL once the franchise qb went down? I'd say that was a hell of a coaching job. Now you're telling the man forgot how to coach in one year. OK.


#1. I said last year that sticking with Dak was a bad idea and he would regress into the mediocre qb he's destined to be. I was right, but it wasn't here, it was on the official forum.

#2. Dak was successful last year because of 3 reasons:

#2-A: There was no professional film on him for teams to prepare and figure out his (many) weaknesses,
#2-B: Zeke averaged 5.1 yards per carry, which is better than any back did this year (Al-Mo was highest at 4.8.)
#2-C: The offensive line was in one piece, Smith was healthier, and Leary and Free were still around

#3. The idiotic carrot doesn't actually know X's and O's very well.. Even Romo has said as much. We all know Linehan's coaching record, same with Marinelli... the difference is, Marinelli actually coached his players into a semblance of an organized and functional unit, while the offense was pure trash
 

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I was a longtime Garrett supporter until the 1st Philly game in 2016 when Dak threw the interception before halftime when the team should have been running near the goal line, bleeding clock or forcing Philly to use timeouts if they wanted the ball back. It was at that moment I knew the coaching staff either can’t learn from past mistakes or don’t think what they are doing is a mistake.

The team seems to constantly be a year or two away. I think back to the 2014 season thinking the process is finally paying off. I would have argued until I was blue in the face with anyone who claimed the Cowboys wouldn’t win another playoff game for at least 3 years and continue to miss the playoffs more often than not. Well, we’re here and those are the results.

We had another great year in 2016 thinking we were 1-2 years away but had another disappointing season instead of making a run. Now I have no clue which team will show up in 2018, but if the team can’t at least win 1 playoff game (even a WC game) Jerry needs to cut ties with them.

Being 1-2 years away isn’t a bad thing, it just needs to eventually show up. And I don’t need a SB title to be happy, just being a serious contender for one would suffice. Make a deep playoff run and I give this staff more support, but they need to earn it now. They already used up the free support that comes with being new to the job.
 

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#1. I said last year that sticking with Dak was a bad idea and he would regress into the mediocre qb he's destined to be. I was right, but it wasn't here, it was on the official forum.

Yet pretty much every coach or talking head around the league said you had to stay with Dak
I wanted to go back to Romo too, but you can't argue with the decision to stay with Dak either, with the way they were playing.



#2. Dak was successful last year because of 3 reasons:

Isn't that the reason most young qbs are successful, especially a 4th round rookie, with hardly no training camp work, do you need examples ? Geoff, Wentz neither did shyt without a running gam and they were first rounders 1&2 picks

#2-A: There was no professional film on him for teams to prepare and figure out his (many) weaknesses,

Again, a 4th round rookie couldn't be figured out by NFL d coordinators? shame on them, maybe they're employers should rethink whether they're right for the job.

#2-B: Zeke averaged 5.1 yards per carry, which is better than any back did this year (Al-Mo was highest at 4.8.)

Again a run game, Tony's best season came when Murray led the league in rushing...go figure
#2-C: The offensive line was in one piece, Smith was healthier, and Leary and Free were still around

Ok?

#3. The idiotic carrot doesn't actually know X's and O's very well.. Even Romo has said as much. We all know Linehan's coaching record, same with Marinelli... the difference is, Marinelli actually coached his players into a semblance of an organized and functional unit, while the offense was pure trash

Well, I'll say this, as a coordinator his offense stayed in the upper half of the league. It's kinda hard to do that without knowing X's and O's...lol it's also ironic an average joe saying a professional coach doesn't know X's and O's.

So when JG was available a hot candidate. Then offered the head coaching job in Baltimore, they couldn't see he didn't know X's and O's? Surely a highly respected front office around the league, did their homework.

You're amazing...lol
 

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It would take all your brain cells to equal my one. We still don't need you as a fan

You do need me and people like me as fans. Vocal dissent and not accepting the state of the franchise is the only thing that may lead to some meaningful change. Otherwise, Jerry will be more than happy to take your positive energy, along with your money, and give you a half-*** product because he knows people like you will accept it.
 

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Well, I'll say this, as a coordinator his offense stayed in the upper half of the league. It's kinda hard to do that without knowing X's and O's...lol it's also ironic an average joe saying a professional coach doesn't know X's and O's.

So when JG was available a hot candidate. Then offered the head coaching job in Baltimore, they couldn't see he didn't know X's and O's? Surely a highly respected front office around the league, did their homework.

You're amazing...lol

You apparently can't read. Either that or you've got an agenda of some kind, maybe some pro-carrot agenda you profit off of. Let me repeat this for you:

TONY ROMO, HIS OLD QUARTERBACK, SAID HE ISN'T AN X'S AND O'S GUY. Romo would know. The carrot colored idiot puppet wasted his entire career.
 

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Then go find another franchise to root for if it's that bad. Why subject yourself to this horrible franchise. It's insane.

Because mortality is a mother. Eventually Jerry will be dead. And maybe we can move on. I take the long view.

You have to as a Cowboys fan.
 

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Well, I'll say this, as a coordinator his offense stayed in the upper half of the league. It's kinda hard to do that without knowing X's and O's...lol it's also ironic an average joe saying a professional coach doesn't know X's and O's.

So when JG was available a hot candidate. Then offered the head coaching job in Baltimore, they couldn't see he didn't know X's and O's? Surely a highly respected front office around the league, did their homework.

You're amazing...lol

Actually this rationale is amazing.

The Ravens had interest in him in 2008. 10 years ago. Before he had any track record as a head coach. We now have a track record of Garrett as a head coach. It's not great. 1 playoff win in 7 seasons. 2 playoff appearances in 7 years. Only Marvin Lewis has a worse winning percentage of coaches employed since Garrett took the job.

But yeah, Garrett is probably really good at Xs and Os because one NFL team wanted him 10 years ago before he has shown what kind of head coach he is, which is an average to slightly above average one.
 
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