Garrett: we don’t use those numbers during a game

Haimerej

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you go for it, don't get it, NE has to drive the field in those conditions then likely get the ball back still needing a touchdown. You get it and its a tie ballgame. You kick it, get 3 and still need a touchdown.

Only a moron (see picture left) would think kicking a field goal was the best option in that situation.

You don't get it, NE drives and scores and puts the game away. Funny you leave that possibility out of it.
 

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You don't get it, NE drives and scores and puts the game away. Funny you leave that possibility out of it.
like they were doing all game? Outside of us handing them the ball deep into their own territory they did nothing offensively.

Leaves it up to you and Garrett that wanted to play for moral victory and keep the point margin of losing low. :facepalm:
 

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Hate to break it to Jason... But analytics are much different than stats...lol maybe Princeton sucks.
 

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I'd take my chances at 70 yards with a first down than 1 shot at getting 7 in the redzone.
They had actually just got through driving 78 yards, so even though the odds weren't great, it clearly it was possible, and it naturally would have been made more possible by the entire drive being a 4 down situation.

In the end, you and I will just have to agree to disagree. I see your argument, and I don't completely reject it. There are points in its favor. I just think the points on the side I fall on are stronger.
 

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He also said. The cowboys practiced inside on Thursday and Friday. Despite knowing the conditions would be terrible during the game.


Garret is a freaking clown.

They should have been outside. Field wet. Fans blowing. Buckets of water to dunk the footballs in.

ZERO situational football in Dallas.
 

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He didn't look at the 90% chance of rain numbers why look at analytics while the rest of the professional sports world does?
 

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like they were doing all game? Outside of us handing them the ball deep into their own territory they did nothing offensively.

Leaves it up to you and Garrett that wanted to play for moral victory and keep the point margin of losing low. :facepalm:

On one hand you point to how the game was going to say NE wouldn't score, but you still believe Dallas could convert a 4th and 7. What part of the game gave you that confidence?
 

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On one hand you point to how the game was going to say NE wouldn't score, but you still believe Dallas could convert a 4th and 7. What part of the game gave you that confidence?
we hadn't got that close for most of the game, to squander it on a pointless field goal was just bad coaching, bad decision making and overall stupid.

Play to win, not for moral victories.
 

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we hadn't got that close for most of the game, to squander it on a pointless field goal was just bad coaching, bad decision making and overall stupid.

Play to win, not for moral victories.

You say play to win but you're actually playing to tie. You're cool with failing because you believe they'd have another chance to tie later. At least kicking the FG accounts for the possibility of NE getting one when they get the ball.
 

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You don't get it, NE drives and scores and puts the game away. Funny you leave that possibility out of it.

And if we kick a fg and then pats go down and score it’s not over? It would have been 2 tds either way, 0 difference.
 

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You say play to win but you're actually playing to tie. You're cool with failing because you believe they'd have another chance to tie later. At least kicking the FG accounts for the possibility of NE getting one when they get the ball.
Play to win, tie not to make the box score look better in a loss.

Please make the Giants your top destination with Garrett next year.
 

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And if we kick a fg and then pats go down and score it’s not over? It would have been 2 tds either way, 0 difference.

I just don't understand your certainty about the decision. You're acting like there was no other option which is simply wrong.
 

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I just don't understand your certainty about the decision. You're acting like there was no other option which is simply wrong.
3 points was not the option, it was the worst off all options. 3 points did zero for us, besides a better box score.
 

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Play to win, tie not to make the box score look better in a loss.

Your attribution of such motivations makes me feel like your honoring your parents with that, "1986," thing. I mean, you can't be over 30... right?

Please make the Giants your top destination with Garrett next year.

Don't think I will. Thanks for the suggestion though.
 

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Your attribution of such motivations makes me feel like your honoring your parents with that, "1986," thing. I mean, you can't be over 30... right?



Don't think I will. Thanks for the suggestion though.
did it work? Did those 3 points win the game or contribute to a win? In the moment it was the wrong decision and in hindsight it was still the wrong decision.
 
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