Garrett's confused coaching

[Staubacher]

Garrett keeps blowing it.

This is his last chance.

It's all right here for him, easy road to the playoffs this year.

But he just doesn't have it.

I don't care at all anymore about Dez on the sidelines or the other guys. But you watch those videos and it's clear NO ONE gives a rip about Garrett. No fear, no respect, no affection.

I have so wanted to be proven wrong and I have tried to look for hope. But Garrett just stinks as a HC.

 

[Zekeats]

To me there are two kinds of coaches. You have your really smart thinkers who are able to dissect offenses and defenses and fine ways to win. These are your chess player types. Think Billicheat
Then you have those who are smart, but will teams to win. They have a charisma on the sidelines that make a team want to win no matter the cost, simply because they love their coach and their teammates so much and would do anything in order to not let the team down. Jimmy Johnson
Then you have those that are a special combination of passion and outright geniuses at the same time...Gruden and Parcells are the first that comes to mind in that category.
Then you have Garret who has the demeanor of Billicheat, and somehow thinks he's as smart as him. This is a bad combination. Either get with the program and get us some real things drawn up, or pull a Dez and make this team want to win.

You said two kinds of coaches and named 4 kinds of coaches

 

[Gameover]

Garcia isn't qualified to carry Romo's gameday jock.

I would like to hear your rational thoughts on why this team can't get it. Other than the usual Romo sucks of course. You never add anything of value except constant drivel about Tony.

Jeff was better. Not a knock on Romo.jmo

 

[pjtoadie]

I am so sick of being mediocre! If you would have told me before the season started that we'd be 3-0 against the division but only be 4-4 halfway through I wouldn't have believed it! Sorry to the Garrett lovers but he's just not getting it done and he has to go. How many more excuses does he get?

 

[Idgit]

It's not a theory, it has already played out. He didn't fool anybody, he chose his moment well - when his market value was at an all-time high and played Jerry's desire to not lose another Sean to a competitor.

It's a stick em up tactic that happens every spring post bonuses in the financial world, I've done it myself.
Jason would never have the same leverage again and wisely chose the job that gave him 2.5 years of protection from HC scrutiny while being paid top dollar.

The theory part was where you said he know he wouldn't last beyond his second season in Baltimore.

 

[kramskoi]

Brad Sham is a Garrett homer, just like Babe Laufenburg.. How does he know what's going on the Cowboys meetings when that's closed to the media?

This is the very thing that causes more derision to be aimed at Garrett, whether he deserves it our not. All this sticht about Landry and he has yet to even rise to the levels of Gailey, Phillips and Parcells. I don't think Garrett is in the same league as Tom Landry, a gentleman who was instrumental in what we still see in today's NFL. He certainly will never be mistaken for the psychological and sometimes psychotic Johnson who wrested the very soul from players when he thought they were slacking, or too "comfortable" with a loss. Unlike Landry, he will not have 10 years to finally get this thing off the ground. I still want to believe that the toil and the tinkering will transform into something tangible enough to titillate Cowboys fans on Sundays, rather than have them teetering on the brink of carnivorous conniption.

 

[Corso]

I don't know how anyone can believe this considering we are on pace to statistically be the worse defense in the history of this franchise and maybe even the NFL. Think about that for a moment. And this considering the amount of financial resources and draft picks we allocated to the CB position. There is very little logic in how this roster has been built from the outside in. Add to that the fact that we had to lure a retired offensive lineman out of retirement and play just about every journeyman on a DL because we lacked any depth on the lines is ludicrous. And lets not get into the logic of drafting a TE who can't block in the 2nd round (again) to run the vaunted 12 package.

Crud. Your logic and common sense is bringing me down even more.

Someone give me some good arguments against this- just so I can feel better because this sounds too much like inescapable truth.

 

[Beast_from_East]

I think he has built a roster and a team that is finally beginning to function like a roster and team that knows it's job. I think we are seeing decisions he made 1-2 years ago starting to make sense as far as it comes to building the roster. I thought dumping Gurode was INSANE, as was moving Tyron and Free from positions they knew, but now I am seeing the logic. I think in one offseason our WR core has gone from questionable to incredibly strong. I think that we are suddenly VERY LOW on penalties against and turnovers.

That said, I still feel like game management and decisions on the fly is a problem. I think he is an average game planner before the game but very slow to respond whenever we see something that we did not plan for. I think that while he prepares for certain things very well and, when he is right, our team is ready, when he is taken off guard he is slow to respond to that (for instance, we are now three games in where teams just BLITZ us to no end and I have seen no adjustment).

I think that there are redeeming qualities to the building of a team that are valuable. I think that managing a game and juggling variables are still sub-par.

If an NFL head coach is "sub par" in game management after 3 years on the job....................................it really doesnt matter how good he is on draft day..................you are going to lose and lose alot.

 

[DallasCowboysRule!]

Call me when Jason has a QB who can read the field and make all the throws.

You should answer the phone. It's been ringing for a half decade.

 

[Gameover]

If an NFL head coach is "sub par" in game management after 3 years on the job....................................it really doesnt matter how good he is on draft day..................you are going to lose and lose alot.

What was Garrett's game managing error in the lions game?

 

[Beast_from_East]

Put another way, in 2010 I felt we had a dreadful OL, terrible secondary, decent defensive line, mediocre linebacker corps and alright WR core. Since then I feel like every single one of these units, except the defensive line, has been improved in some way.

If the team has improved talent wise under Garrett, as you say, then why hasnt the scoreboard?

Why are we getting .500 ball every season when every single unit on the team has been upgraded in talent level?

At some point, maybe its coaching and not talent.................wouldnt you agree?

 

[Beast_from_East]

What was Garrett's game managing error in the lions game?

Are you seriously asking this?

99% of this board has been discussing this in virtually every other thread since the game ended and you have no idea?

Inability to milk the clock
Inability to take advantage of turnovers
Thinking single coverage on Megatron all game was a sound strategy
Playing man coverage on the sideline WRs in prevent.......a cardinal sin
Not calling timeout when Detroit had the ball at the 1, could have had 30 more seconds to get in field goal range.

These are just off the top of my head, I am sure others can add to the list.

 

[Idgit]

If the team has improved talent wise under Garrett, as you say, then why hasnt the scoreboard?

Why are we getting .500 ball every season when every single unit on the team has been upgraded in talent level?

At some point, maybe its coaching and not talent.................wouldnt you agree?

What's your opinion on the effectiveness of our passing defense the last three seasons, Beast? Honestly.

That's *not* an excuse for Jason Garett. It's his responsibility to fix it. But going back to last season, I've been harping on turnover ratio, pass defense effectiveness, and red zone offensive efficiency. Two of those three things have gotten a lot better. One, much worse. I can't say it enough that it's on the HC to fix all three, and I'd like to have seen them all buttoned up before now, but, when you can point to such an obvious and significant liability, and knowing it's one of the things most likely to cause teams to lose games to other good teams, how can you overlook the importance of it? Perhaps Jason isn't the guy capable of fixing it all, but why pretend the problem doesn't exist when it so obviously does and it's obviously causing us to lose these games--SD, DEN, and now, DET--to teams who can pass the ball effectively?

You suggest that, at some point, it's coaching and not talent. I'd suggest that that point is when there's not a such a glaring deficiency, and we're still not getting it done. Or when there is a glaring deficiency, and we're not doing anything to effectively fix it. Before then, it's not the coaching that's the problem.

 

[Roadtrip635]

It's not just a couple games, JG's offense is just not effective when it needs to be. Oh sure there's a lot of gaudy numbers and paper stats, but it just doesn't translate to wins. You can argue, we didn't have an Oline, or a running game, or there was poor team culture or whatever other excuse there may be. At this point it doesn't matter anymore if it's about his ability, philosophy or having the RKG's..... it about the RKC (Right Kinda Coach) and he ain't it.

 

[AdamJT13]

For me, a telling moment, that kind of gets lost in thins game is Detroit going for it on 4rth and goal. Im not saying the game would have turn out exactly the same way if the would have settled for a field goal, but if they did, we're up ten at the end of the game. Garrett for sure would have kicked that field goal. example of scared coaching and aggressive coaching. Garrett is not an aggressive coach and its demonstrated through his offense.

I agree with your general premise about Garrett not taking enough chances, but your example is a bad one. The last time we played Detroit, Garrett faced a fourth-and-goal in the first quarter, just like the Lions had on Sunday. And he went for it, just like the Lions did on Sunday. Unlike the Lions, though, we didn't make it. And when we blew a 24-point lead and were behind 34-30 in the closing minutes, we needed to drive for a touchdown instead of merely needing a field goal to win it, because we didn't kick an easy one in the first quarter. I'm pretty sure Garrett got blasted for that decision after that game.

 

[ConstantReboot]

I've heard players state that Landry wanted to keep it close in the first half and win it in the 4th quarter. I always felt like if we were close at the beginning of the 4th quarter under Landry we would win. That is not the situation now. It doesn't matter if we are in the lead boing into the second half or even the 4th quarter I am not confident we will win because I have observed that usually the mistakes of the first half are still there in the second half.

Landry knew how to win close games. He and Staubach were in the same page when it came to crucial moments in which they had to convert. On the other hand, Romo is left alone in his decision on converting crucial situations. Romo needs a coach that can guide him. He needs a play to be drawn up and told the importance of the play at hand. Garrett doesn't do that. Garrett doesn't play situational football. He doesn't draw up a special play for Romo in the waning moments of a game. In fact, I don't think he does anything. His lack of decision making is whats killing this team. Thats why we lose so many close games.

 

[Ender]

I agree with your general premise about Garrett not taking enough chances, but your example is a bad one. The last time we played Detroit, Garrett faced a fourth-and-goal in the first quarter, just like the Lions had on Sunday. And he went for it, just like the Lions did on Sunday. Unlike the Lions, though, we didn't make it. And when we blew a 24-point lead and were behind 34-30 in the closing minutes, we needed to drive for a touchdown instead of merely needing a field goal to win it, because we didn't kick an easy one in the first quarter. I'm pretty sure Garrett got blasted for that decision after that game.

He probably did. And I'm not saying go for it on 4th down all the time. What I'm saying is that he needs to show some aggression. The fact that he would probably always kick a field goal, and always play it safe is just m example of him coaching not to lose.

 

[Doomsay]

The theory part was where you said he know he wouldn't last beyond his second season in Baltimore.

Ah, in hindsight it probably would have been correct, but maybe he did believe that he could have succeeded there. I just though that it was strange at the time that he turned down a full head coaching position in favor of an apprenticeship under Head Coach Wade. Seems like he wasn't too confident in his ability to be a HC at that juncture.

 

[waving monkey]

Name one redeeming quality Garrett gives you as a head coach........ and don't give me the old RKG argument. Any idiot can say that.

What does he bring to the table that shows you he has what it takes to get us to the next level?

Red brings organizational planning and focus however the flaws are a problem

 

[DogFace]

I think he has built a roster and a team that is finally beginning to function like a roster and team that knows it's job. I think we are seeing decisions he made 1-2 years ago starting to make sense as far as it comes to building the roster. I thought dumping Gurode was INSANE, as was moving Tyron and Free from positions they knew, but now I am seeing the logic. I think in one offseason our WR core has gone from questionable to incredibly strong. I think that we are suddenly VERY LOW on penalties against and turnovers.

That said, I still feel like game management and decisions on the fly is a problem. I think he is an average game planner before the game but very slow to respond whenever we see something that we did not plan for. I think that while he prepares for certain things very well and, when he is right, our team is ready, when he is taken off guard he is slow to respond to that (for instance, we are now three games in where teams just BLITZ us to no end and I have seen no adjustment).

I think that there are redeeming qualities to the building of a team that are valuable. I think that managing a game and juggling variables are still sub-par.

To me. This sums up JG perfectly.