Gene Chizik glaring at daughter's prom date

[Eric_Boyer]

It's such a fine line between clever and stupid

 

[trickblue]

"you can't go out with the boy because how he wears his hat is silly"

that is the making of one messed up father/daughter relationship

With all due respect Eric, you have no idea about my relationship with my daughter. I've been doing this for a while and I have 3 honor students and a great relationship with my children. As a parent, I look for alarms to steer them clear from poor decision making.

I trust them to make good decisions, but I'm also there to oversee that they do. I am not their friend, I am their father.

Your definition of messed up is your own and frankly you are out of line...

 

[Eric_Boyer]

Your definition of messed up is your own and frankly you are out of line...

You have a stream of people lining up high fiving you for your parenting. You are correct, I am out of that line.

You have every right to raise your girl like a china doll, but I’m not going to pretend to like your method and on a forum such as this, I am not out of line sharing my conflicting views. You don’t want to hear it, consider sharing less. Or grow some thicker skin. Or whine about how out of line I am. Totally your call.

I’m still curious if you would treat your teenage son in the same fashion?

 

[trickblue]

You have a stream of people lining up high fiving you for your parenting. You are correct, I am out of that line.

You have every right to raise your girl like a china doll, but I’m not going to pretend to like your method and on a forum such as this, I am not out of line sharing my conflicting views. You don’t want to hear it, consider sharing less. Or grow some thicker skin. Or whine about how out of line I am. Totally your call.

I’m still curious if you would treat your teenage son in the same fashion?

Haha... Eric... always the antagonist running around bullying people on the internet.

I'm not being thin skinned... just stating a fact...

Oh... and I did tell my oldest son what i thought of his girlfriend a couple of years back and I was dead on right...

I don't raise my daughter like a China Doll. I know what guys are after and I will parent accordingly.

Also you did not share your conflicting views. You stated that's a "messed-up relationship" and you have no idea what that relationship is.

You can be as "conflicting" as you wanna be, but your "angry internet guy" persona ran it's course years ago... turn off your Caps Lock and relax...

 

[Eric_Boyer]

Haha... Eric... always the antagonist running around bullying people on the internet.

I'm not being thin skinned... just stating a fact...

bullying? how? I strongly disagree with your views on how to raise girls but nothing I am doing rises to the level of bullying.

 

[Eric_Boyer]

Oh... and I did tell my oldest son what i thought of his girlfriend a couple of years back and I was dead on right...

Unless you told him he could not go out with the girl, it is not the same.

And I imagine you didn't hand the girl a card outlining what time curfew is either.

 

[trickblue]

bullying? how? I strongly disagree with your views on how to raise girls but nothing I am doing rises to the level of bullying.

No... it's how you communicate with people... with disdain and outrage. You talk down to more people than anyone I have ever seen. Nelly Negativity...

 

[trickblue]

Unless you told him he could not go out with the girl, it is not the same.

And I imagine you didn't hand the girl a card outlining what time curfew is either.

Nope... sure didn't, but I did forbid him to go on a lake trip with her... and they all got busted for alcohol...

I know you don't care for traditional gender roles. Like it or not, the guy is responsible for getting my daughter home on time if he is driving. It's not rocket surgery...

 

[Eric_Boyer]

No... it's how you communicate with people... with disdain and outrage. You talk down to more people than anyone I have ever seen. Nelly Negativity...

funny. I have already been told I am what is wrong with society today. didn't cause me to complain about being bullied......

 

[WV Cowboy]

I have standards about the types of people that can hang around my house, and criminal elements are not welcome.

So you do have standards, .. I thought you would.

Don't act like you don't, ... they just aren't the same as another Dad might impose.

 

[Eric_Boyer]

So you do have standards, .. I thought you would.

Don't act like you don't, ... they just aren't the same as another Dad might impose.

I never acted like I don’t have standards. I acted like someone that doesn’t have double standards.

I assume since you are dodging my question, you do have double standards?

 

[WV Cowboy]

Yes you did, .. you entered this thread with guns a blazin' criticizing those that have standards for the boys/men that they want their daughters to be with.
You acted like that was a bad thing.

And yet you too have standards.

If you think me raising a son differently than I would raise a daughter is me having double standards, .. then yes I do.
I don't have a daughter, but if I would have, I would have raised her differently than I did sons.

 

[Eric_Boyer]

Yes you did, .. you entered this thread with guns a blazin' criticizing those that have standards for the boys/men that they want their daughters to be with.
You acted like that was a bad thing.

And yet you too have standards.

If you think me raising a son differently than I would raise a daughter is me having double standards, .. then yes I do.
I don't have a daughter, but if I would have, I would have raised her differently than I did sons.

I criticized the type of standards that would not be imposed on a teenaged boy. reread this thread, you are dead wrong.

 

[WV Cowboy]

I criticized the type of standards that would not be imposed on a teenaged boy. reread this thread, you are dead wrong.

Dude, you reread it, ... right off the bat you criticized his parenting and called his daughter brittle like fine china, and you and your daughters laugh at girls like that.

If you don't see that there is a difference between teenage boys and teenage girls, .. you need to have a son.

 

[Eric_Boyer]

Dude, you reread it, ... right off the bat you criticized his parenting and called his daughter brittle like fine china, and you and your daughters laugh at girls like that.

If you don't see that there is a difference between teenage boys and teenage girls, .. you need to have a son.

show where I said I don't have standards. reread it.

I already did. you asked if I had any standards, I replied I did - the same ones my parents had.

you have since admitted you have double standards. so we are done. you admitted to holding a belief I shun. the end. I find your views in poor taste, you have a right to hold those views and I can certainly share my contempt for them.

 

[CanadianCowboysFan]

funny. I have already been told I am what is wrong with society today. didn't cause me to complain about being bullied......

welcome to my world on this board

 

[CanadianCowboysFan]

You are who you hang out with. I'm wouldn't let my daughter hang out with that type. Lives can change in a second and I'm going to make sure she's with decent people and not some cocky smart*** kid who thinks it's cool cause some no-talent rapper wears his cap like that.

this guy didn't wear his hat sideways

 

[CanadianCowboysFan]

I don't know what @trickblue would allow. But in my experience with my father, he wouldn't let us leave the house looking hoochified.

Any rules I would give my child would start with him/her first...and then I would explain the rules to the date and the parents of the date, so that we're all on the same page. It just makes sense to me.

were you like most girls and keep those clothes at school and change the second you got there?

 

[WV Cowboy]

show where I said I don't have standards. reread it.

The standard that you stated was .. "no criminals". LOL
Surely your standards do not start there.

You talk like this tough guy, when in reality I am sure that you would do anything and everything to protect yours girls.

Not sure what you are trying to prove by suggesting that raising girls and raising boys are the same thing. They aren't.

You and I are in different seasons of our lives, .. my sons are 36 and 30.
Both have college degrees and are successful in their field.
The oldest has been married for 11 yrs with a 3 1/2 yr old son. He is a great husband, and a tremendous father to that little guy.
The other has worked out of state the past 4 1/2 yrs, .. and has a girlfriend that we all love, and she will probably be my daughter-in-law someday.

We are all three best friends that talk or text daily. My sons are very close with each other, and have always had each others backs.

I am content with the job that we did parenting, and raising two fine young men that we are proud of.

But you can bet when they were in the formative teenage years that I intervened and made some decisions for them that were not popular at the time. But they survived.

Good luck with your girls.

 

[WV Cowboy]

this guy didn't wear his hat sideways

Good point, .. I would have never let my daughter go to Aruba at 17 yrs old on her own.