Gene Chizik glaring at daughter's prom date

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Eric_Boyer

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The standard that you stated was .. "no criminals". LOL

Surely your standards do not start there.

Yes, they do start there. They might not end there, but they do start there.

You talk like this tough guy, when in reality I am sure that you would do anything and everything to protect yours girls.

you seem to have this debate backwards. The parent that gets all tough with their daughters dates are the ones acting like a tough guy.

You don’t have daughters, so you really have no experience that interests me on this particular subject, and your desire to argued from your position of ignorance is of little interest to me.
 

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You don’t have daughters, so you really have no experience that interests me on this particular subject, and your desire to argued from your position of ignorance is of little interest to me.

LOL, ok .. have it your way.

Whenever you can come out from behind your facade of "know it all" arrogance, you might find you don't know it all, and find it helpful to listen to others that have been down the road that you are on.

But that would indicate wisdom.

Like I said, good luck to you and your girls.
 

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LOL, ok .. have it your way.

Whenever you can come out from behind your facade of "know it all" arrogance, you might find you don't know it all, and find it helpful to listen to others that have been down the road that you are on.

But that would indicate wisdom.

Like I said, good luck to you and your girls.

why is my reply know it all arrogance? several people before me chimed in saying how great this type of parenting is, and I offered a counter opinion.

you seem to have double standards on this issue as well.
 

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Good point, .. I would have never let my daughter go to Aruba at 17 yrs old on her own.


that is a different point though. I am sure old Joran wouldn't show up for a date and say "yo", "wear baggy pants" nor his had sideways. He would probably call Trick Sir, and Trick would think he was a great guy, until his daughter never came home.

Moral or the story, you cannot judge a book by its cover. Trick basically says he does.
 

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that is a different point though. I am sure old Joran wouldn't show up for a date and say "yo", "wear baggy pants" nor his had sideways. He would probably call Trick Sir, and Trick would think he was a great guy, until his daughter never came home.

Moral or the story, you cannot judge a book by its cover. Trick basically says he does.

or it was just a macho man story that doesn't actually play out that way in real life.

your daughter has a guy she likes. he comes to the door, and as a father you take a look at him, slam the door and say date is over.

People can claim all they want that is how they are running their household, I'm raising the BS flag.
 

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or it was just a macho man story that doesn't actually play out that way in real life.

your daughter has a guy she likes. he comes to the door, and as a father you take a look at him, slam the door and say date is over.

People can claim all they want that is how they are running their household, I'm raising the BS flag.


There is irony of posters here referring to you as an internet tough guy given some things they have written about what they would do to criminals, etc
 

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As a parent, with Daughters, I can understand why you might not like certain things. Each parent has to deal with their children as best they see fit. Each parent knows much better then any outsider how best to parent their own children. Now, do they do that all the time? Probably not but that's also part of being a parent. I know this, it's none of my business telling any other parent how they should parent. I am not in their situation and I am not aware of all the moving parts. I have enough trouble trying to raise my own kids.

I'm pretty sure I wouldn't appreciate anybody coming in and telling me what I'm doing wrong or telling me how to parent my children.
 

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As a parent, with Daughters, I can understand why you might not like certain things. Each parent has to deal with their children as best they see fit. Each parent knows much better then any outsider how best to parent their own children. Now, do they do that all the time? Probably not but that's also part of being a parent. I know this, it's none of my business telling any other parent how they should parent. I am not in their situation and I am not aware of all the moving parts. I have enough trouble trying to raise my own kids.

I'm pretty sure I wouldn't appreciate anybody coming in and telling me what I'm doing wrong or telling me how to parent my children.

so you think a person explaining their parenting style on the internet should only be exposed to congratulatory posts. Did I interpret this correctly?
 

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so you think a person explaining their parenting style on the internet should only be exposed to congratulatory posts. Did I interpret this correctly?

Not even close. What's going on here, from my point of view, is not what you are describing above. This is turning into a mud fight with little constructive discussion. Who's the better parent based on no real knowledge of what any given person's actual situations are is fruitless. It's hard enough to be a parent. More positive helps and if that means more encouraging discussion or as you may deem them, "congratulatory posts", I'm all for it. I can use all the help I can get.
 

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Not even close. What's going on here, from my point of view, is not what you are describing above. This is turning into a mud fight with little constructive discussion. Who's the better parent based on no real knowledge of what any given person's actual situations are is fruitless. It's hard enough to be a parent. More positive helps and if that means more encouraging discussion or as you may deem them, "congratulatory posts", I'm all for it. I can use all the help I can get.

I'm really not sure what you are saying. I would never go seek someone out to tell someone their method of parenting is bad, but in this thread, they posted their method, which will always expose them to compliments and criticism.
 

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I'm really not sure what you are saying. I would never go seek someone out to tell someone their method of parenting is bad, but in this thread, they posted their method, which will always expose them to compliments and criticism.

Doesn't have to be that way. We are all in it together. Our children will be societies parents in a short while. I think there are ways to discuss such issues that can be more constructive and less argumentative. At least, IMO.
 

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Doesn't have to be that way. We are all in it together. Our children will be societies parents in a short while. I think there are ways to discuss such issues that can be more constructive and less argumentative. At least, IMO.

I would hate to live in a society where only positive feedback can be given to publicly offered opinions.
 

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I would hate to live in a society where only positive feedback can be given to publicly offered opinions.

Fair enough but on the other hand, I would hate to think that any public discussion has to mean that it becomes a knife fight as to who is right and who is wrong. Especially when raising children. My experience is that there is no always or never. Every child is different, every situation different and they all take different motivations. That's just my opinion Eric.
 

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then you already failed. At this point your child has 1-2 years before being an adult. If you can't trust them to make good decisions about who to hang out with now, they won't be a whole lot different in two years.

No son, you're the one who's failed. My daughters a senior in college graduating with honors and never been pregnant. She loves me to death.
 

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this guy didn't wear his hat sideways
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That proves what?
 
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