Georgia CB Oliver will be selected in the supplemental draft...'boys mentioned

[CrazyCowboy]

I just hope we do not reach

 

[5mics]

Pass on him. If we decide CB is essential then grab Antoine Cason from Arizona. Yeah, I know, I'm a homer. Watch this kid play next year when you get a chance. You'll know why.

Cason will be a 1st rounder next year barring injury. If we can nab Oliver in the suppplemental w/ a 2nd rounder, would you do it? I think I would. From what I've read, Oliver would have been one of the top CBs for next year so getting him w/ a 2nd would be good value at a position of need.....

 

[5mics]

Really? You would only spend a 3rd round pick on a guy that was pretty much a consensus top 10 pick in '08?

I'm finding it hard to see the logic in not taking Oliver w/ at the very least a 2nd rounder also.

1. Oliver would have been one of the top CBs next year.
2. CB is a position of need for us.
3. I believe many, including myself, will be clamoring to draft a CB w/ one of our two 1st rounder or our 2nd rounder in next year's draft.

Then why on earth would we not consider taking Oliver w/ a 2nd rounder or even possibly a 1st in the supplemental? He's a highly rated CB who we could have a year early and not have to rush to be the starter as a rookie. The pros outweigh the cons for me.....

 

[JonJon]

I'm finding it hard to see the logic in not taking Oliver w/ at the very least a 2nd rounder also.

1. Oliver would have been one of the top CBs next year.
2. CB is a position of need for us.
3. I believe many, including myself, will be clamoring to draft a CB w/ one of our two 1st rounder or our 2nd rounder in next year's draft.

Then why on earth would we not consider taking Oliver w/ a 2nd rounder or even possibly a 1st in the supplemental? He's a highly rated CB who we could have a year early and not have to rush to be the starter as a rookie. The pros outweigh the cons for me.....

I agree. Once again, I am very familiar with SEC football, and Oliver will be a star. He plays a lot like Newman and isn't afraid to tackle. He has good speed and isn't out of position often. He can play zone or man coverage very well. If we have a chance to get him with our second, do it. This is the perfect opportunity to grab a 1st round talent and let him develop under our present corners. I am very optimistic about Brown and Ball developing into situational CBs, but this guy is in a different league all together. He could be ready to step in as the starter next season after a full year of perfecting his skill.

 

[AmishCowboy]

Our pick will most likely be a low 2nd rounder, so why not take the chance?. 2007 will be his red shirt year and he will be ready to go in 2008.

 

[theogt]

I'm finding it hard to see the logic in not taking Oliver w/ at the very least a 2nd rounder also.

1. Oliver would have been one of the top CBs next year.
2. CB is a position of need for us.
3. I believe many, including myself, will be clamoring to draft a CB w/ one of our two 1st rounder or our 2nd rounder in next year's draft.

Then why on earth would we not consider taking Oliver w/ a 2nd rounder or even possibly a 1st in the supplemental? He's a highly rated CB who we could have a year early and not have to rush to be the starter as a rookie. The pros outweigh the cons for me.....

Include me in there as well.

The great thing is that quite a few of the teams ahead of us that really needed CBs just drafted them in the first two rounds. So I'm not sure too many teams will be looking at Oliver as a 2nd. We could probably have him if we wanted him, and that's great value.

 

[zeromaster]

I don't see us blowing a 1st on this kid.

Yeah, 2nd round will be the temptation, I think. Maybe we do nothing.

 

[Hostile]

Cason will be a 1st rounder next year barring injury. If we can nab Oliver in the suppplemental w/ a 2nd rounder, would you do it? I think I would. From what I've read, Oliver would have been one of the top CBs for next year so getting him w/ a 2nd would be good value at a position of need.....

The way they do the Supplemental Draft now (or at least last year) is they get all 32 teams on a conference call and they follow the draft order, pre trades, based on record. This would mean Dallas would have the 53rd pick overall for them to use their 2nd round pick. I don't see any team risking a 1st. Maybe one will. It is possible. That means 20 teams have to pass on him for us to have a chance with our 2nd pick.

On top of this I don't think the team is near as unhappy with Anthony Henry as some fans.

I just don't see it happening.

 

[Stash]

My gut tells me that Tennessee will use their (high) 2nd rounder on him as a replacement for Pacman (I'll never play again) Jones.

 

[Hostile]

My gut tells me that Tennessee will use their (high) 2nd rounder on him as a replacement for Pacman (I'll never play again) Jones.

They took a DB with their 1st pick. The kid from Texas, Griffin, who they plan to use at CB I believe.

 

[Stash]

They took a DB with their 1st pick. The kid from Texas, Griffin, who they plan to use at CB I believe.

I didn't know they planned to play him at corner. Thanks for the tip. Guess I'll need to re-think my theory...

 

[dallasfan]

I'm finding it hard to see the logic in not taking Oliver w/ at the very least a 2nd rounder also.

1. Oliver would have been one of the top CBs next year.
2. CB is a position of need for us.
3. I believe many, including myself, will be clamoring to draft a CB w/ one of our two 1st rounder or our 2nd rounder in next year's draft.

Then why on earth would we not consider taking Oliver w/ a 2nd rounder or even possibly a 1st in the supplemental? He's a highly rated CB who we could have a year early and not have to rush to be the starter as a rookie. The pros outweigh the cons for me.....

Marcus McCauley was one of the top CBs available going into his senior season. The fact that Oliver couldn't stay foucused enough to not fail worries me, not b/c I think he's dumb, but it shows a lack of commitment and discipline.

And before anyone says it, I don't have a problem with athletes not graduating, but If you know you have to pass your classes in order to play football, and can't do that, what makes you think this guy isn't just some talented guy who isn't willing to put in the work?

I probably will want a CB with the 2nd 1rst round pick, but someone will step up an emerge. Right now Cason and Zackary Bowman are probably the top returning guys, but who knows who will establish themselves like Darrell Revis and Chris Houston did this year.

 

[Alexander]

They took a DB with their 1st pick. The kid from Texas, Griffin, who they plan to use at CB I believe.

That experiment when end when he gets torched a few times.

 

[dallasfan]

Our pick will most likely be a low 2nd rounder, so why not take the chance?. 2007 will be his red shirt year and he will be ready to go in 2008.

Who knows where we'll finish. If Romo and Ware miss significant time, I could see us drafting in the top 15 or even lower, so I'd raather not use a high pick on this guy.

 

[Hostile]

That experiment when end when he gets torched a few times.

So do you think they'd take Oliver? The Sup Draft is in July, Griffin couldn't get torched until September. Way too late to do anything about it at that point.

 

[SupermanXx]

Pass on him. If we decide CB is essential then grab Antoine Cason from Arizona. Yeah, I know, I'm a homer. Watch this kid play next year when you get a chance. You'll know why.

Can we just get Aveion Cason and move him to corner instead?

 

[JonJon]

Marcus McCauley was one of the top CBs available going into his senior season. The fact that Oliver couldn't stay foucused enough to not fail worries me, not b/c I think he's dumb, but it shows a lack of commitment and discipline.

I see your point, but that wasn't the case when he was on the football field for Georgia. Whether that translates to the NFL remains to be seen. The same can be said for any draft prospect though. You never know how a players mentality will change once they are shown the green.

Can we just get Aveion Cason and move him to corner instead?

:laugh1:

I couldn't help but chuckle at that...

 

[Hostile]

Can we just get Aveion Cason and move him to corner instead?

Try it on Madden and get back to me.

 

[Hailmary]

Marcus McCauley was one of the top CBs available going into his senior season. The fact that Oliver couldn't stay foucused enough to not fail worries me, not b/c I think he's dumb, but it shows a lack of commitment and discipline.

And before anyone says it, I don't have a problem with athletes not graduating, but If you know you have to pass your classes in order to play football, and can't do that, what makes you think this guy isn't just some talented guy who isn't willing to put in the work?

I probably will want a CB with the 2nd 1rst round pick, but someone will step up an emerge. Right now Cason and Zackary Bowman are probably the top returning guys, but who knows who will establish themselves like Darrell Revis and Chris Houston did this year.

We don't know if it was a lack of effort or focus on his part. Maybe he has a learning disability that went undiagnosed...who knows.

From what I understand, he did try to qualify academically but fell short. He could have easily declared for this past draft, but instead tried to return for his senior season.

 

[dallasfan]

We don't know if it was a lack of effort or focus on his part. Maybe he has a learning disability that went undiagnosed...who knows.

From what I understand, he did try to qualify academically but fell short. He could have easily declared for this past draft, but instead tried to return for his senior season.

I seriously doubt he made it through 3 years of college with a learning disability, only to have that hold him back. More than likely he stopped carring thinking he would do just enough to remain eligable, and fell short.