Give Parcells credit for this...

[BouncingCheese]

Carpenter and Fasano were BP picks.

 

[Dodger12]

That is NOT what Jerry Jones said... He said that considering the benching of the QB Bledsoe, whom they paid a lot of money to start, it was considered throwing the season away. And that is all there is to it. The reason we even got Bledsoe, despite all the claims of Parcells having faith in Romo, is because of Parcells.

O.K., I'll bite.....Why? Because if Jerry loses 5 million on a cap friendly contract, it's throwing the season away? Bull. I may be critical of some things JJ does, but the man never equates spending or losing money to throwing the season away.

Jerry had the same reservations that allot of us had. That is, if we turn the keys over to an undrafted and unknown QB, that the season was in doubt. You're playing a game of semantics. BP was never forced into playing Romo. He could have played Bledsoe until the cows came home and many of us here, including myself, would have thought that he was our best chance to win and make the palyoffs, even with a questionable OL and Bledsoe's faults.

 

[khiladi]

As for playing time - why is it so hard to believe that Parcells felt Romo had a future, but he needed to develop first. That's what Parcells said all along, and your hatred of Parcells can't override that.

Parcells felt the same about Henson.

But Henson was Jerry's project according to you...

And for more proof - look at the Giants. As with Romo, Parcells developed Hostetler for a number of years before moving him in to replace the veteran who had performed well for Parcells teams in the past.

It appears that, contrary to your words, history actually supports the idea that Parcells liked Romo.

Wow! Simms GOT INJURED. Hostetler had to play. Parcells was FORCED into playing Hostetler. This is your evidence?

 

[BouncingCheese]

I know Payton loved Romo, but I didn't know that Jerry didn't want him. And I am pretty sure that BP didn't like Romo until Payton offered BP a second rounder for Romo, when he then probably caught on that Romo could be a legit commodity.

 

[InmanRoshi]

The reason we even got Bledsoe, despite all the claims of Parcells having faith in Romo, is because Romo wasn't ready to start at that point in his career

FTFY

You're hilarious !!! Keep entertaining me. Dance monkey !!! Dance !!!

 

[khiladi]

O.K., I'll bite.....Why? Because if Jerry loses 5 million on a cap friendly contract, it's throwing the season away? Bull. I may be critical of some things JJ does, but the man never equates spending or losing money to throwing the season away.

Jerry had the same reservations that allot of us had. That is, if we turn the keys over to an undrafted and unknown QB, that the season was in doubt. You're playing a game of semantics. BP was never forced into playing Romo. He could have played Bledsoe until the cows came home and many of us here, including myself, would have thought that he was our best chance to win and make the palyoffs, even with a questionable OL and Bledsoe's faults.

They brought in Bledsoe because they thought he could take them to the promised land. And they brought him in because he was Bill Parcell's guy. And he couldn't and totally sucked at it. What Jerry Jones said was extremely relevant. They brought a guy in to take them to the promised land, whm they paid a lot of money, and he ended up stinking up the joint. It was akin to a failure for them. That is what I am saying...

And really, everybody is gushing about Romo and when it suits their opinion, he is unproven, and that is why he didn't start. Yet, he's been riding the pine for 4 years. Seriously... So are you now saying that Parcell's hand was FORCED into playing Romo?

 

[InmanRoshi]

And I am pretty sure that BP didn't like Romo until Payton offered BP a second rounder for Romo, when he then probably caught on that Romo could be a legit commodity.

So why didn't he cut Romo in the three previous training camps? Why did he give Romo preseason snaps with the starters in Year 3, before he was ever offered anything?

 

[InmanRoshi]

They brought in Bledsoe because they didn't have a single veteran QB on the roster with any NFL game experience, and they were in the market for one. Bledsoe was the best one on the market at that time among the Kurt Warners and Brian Grieses, and he already knew the offense, making it a rather easy decision. They paid him a modest contract, and he accomplished what he was paid for ... provide a bridge

Fixed that for you .. again.

You can thank me later.

 

[khiladi]

FTFY

You're hilarious !!! Keep entertaining me. Dance monkey !!! Dance !!!

That's the standard line for the evidence just made you look foolish, so you have to resort to the standard, typical routine of shifting the argument away. You bore me man...

To quote one more time for you:

Rallied may not be a strong enough verb. "By the sixth round that year, Sean was practically standing on the table, telling us to take Romo," former Cowboys player personnel director Larry Lacewell

But yeah, Parcells found Romo... yawn...

 

[khiladi]

Fixed that for you .. again.

You can thank me later.

Sure, just like they brought in Vinny... what is that for Romo when Bledsoe was brought in.. oh yeah.. year 2...

Notice a consistent pattern... you bore me... next...

 

[superpunk]

It's times like this when I think of percyhoward's great words of wisdom.

The two stances of Parcells bashers are completely opposed to one another - namely, that he owes all his credit to his assistants, and that he stifles said assistants.

And so, depending on your hate level for the man, you'll attribute any possible success found by our organization to Jerry, or Ireland or Payton - and direct any possible blame to Parcells for bad picks, or bad coaching moves.

He owes all his credit to his assistants...

...who he won't allow to breathe.

 

[InmanRoshi]

Sean Payton didn't discover nobody. Everyone knew who Romo was. He was invited to the Combine and worked out in front of 32 NFL scouting departments. Everyone who halfway followed the draft knew who he was.

Again, without Parcells there is no Sean Payton in the Cowboys organization, so no matter how you put it, without Bill Parcells there is no Tony Romo for the Dallas Cowboys. This is absolutely inarguable. But, somehow, I don't think that will stop you.

Now ..... Dance monkey, Dance !!!

 

[khiladi]

So why didn't he cut Romo in the three previous training camps? Why did he give Romo preseason snaps with the starters in Year 3, before he was ever offered anything?

Maybe because Sean Payton was all over Romo, gushing about him, forcing him to start his hand, and then suddenly asking Dallas that Romo be traded to him when coaching the Saints to start for his team....

 

[InmanRoshi]

It's times like this when I think of percyhoward's great words of wisdom.

The two stances of Parcells bashers are completely opposed to one another - namely, that he owes all his credit to his assistants, and that he stifles said assistants.

And so, depending on your hate level for the man, you'll attribute any possible success found by our organization to Jerry, or Ireland or Payton - and direct any possible blame to Parcells for bad picks, or bad coaching moves.

He owes all his credit to his assistants...

...who he won't allow to breathe.

Brillant.

 

[khiladi]

Sean Payton didn't discover nobody. Everyone knew who Romo was. He was invited to the Combine and worked out in front of 32 NFL scouting departments. Everyone who halfway followed the draft knew who he was.

Again, without Parcells there is no Sean Payton in the Cowboys organization, so no matter how you put it without Bill Parcells there is no Tony Romo.

Now ..... Dance monkey, Dance !!!

Kepp coming up with the excuses. I guess the fact that he was UNDRAFTED means everybody knew his talents... I guess the fact that Payton had to lietrally beg the Cowboys to pick him in the SIXTH round meant everybody knew his talents..

what did Dallas do in the sixth, in case you forgot, despite being led by the 'god' Parcells... oh, they passed him by..

 

[khiladi]

It's times like this when I think of percyhoward's great words of wisdom.

The two stances of Parcells bashers are completely opposed to one another - namely, that he owes all his credit to his assistants, and that he stifles said assistants.

And so, depending on your hate level for the man, you'll attribute any possible success found by our organization to Jerry, or Ireland or Payton - and direct any possible blame to Parcells for bad picks, or bad coaching moves.

He owes all his credit to his assistants...

...who he won't allow to breathe.

But in your case, it's all Jerry's fault...

 

[Mash]

Jimmy is a Genius......Bill is God......Jerry is a idiot

Its alot easier to think this all the time......

Jerry gets blamed continuously about Carter pick....yet he played...and played for almighty Bill.....Bill is God...and never gets accused for the busts he picked in those OL drafted......skyler green...etc....because...well...he did hit on some late rounders.....so all is forgiven.

btw...first time I heard that Jerry never liked Romo........never?

Jimmy is a Genius......Bill is God......Jerry is a idiot


Jimmy is a Genius......Bill is God......Jerry is a idiot


Jimmy is a Genius......Bill is God......Jerry is a idiot


Jimmy is a Genius......Bill is God......Jerry is a idiot


:laugh2:

 

[peplaw06]

Maybe because Sean Payton was all over Romo, gushing about him, forcing him to start his hand, and then suddenly asking Dallas that Romo be traded to him when coaching the Saints to start for his team....

If he was gushing so much over Romo, why didn't we draft him rather than let him test the UDFA market?

 

[khiladi]

Brillant.

Which means you just confirmed that Tony Romo was all Sean Payton.. But your trying to sidetrack and say that because Sean Payton is an assistant for Parcells, that means the credit goes to Parcells...

So what does that say for your original argument that it wasn't Sean, but Bill... you should stip contradicting yourself in a matter of seconds...

 

[khiladi]

If he was gushing so much over Romo, why didn't we draft him rather than let him test the UDFA market?

I already explained this to you guys and provided a quote.. Larry Lacewell speaks about how Sean Payton was literally begging that the Cowboys draft him ON DRAFT DAY... Sean Payton WAS LOBBYING HEAVILY that the Cowboys draft Romo.. he didn't want him to test the UDFA market..