Giving up if we lose to Panthers?

[Michael88Irvin]

It all depends on the division. I personally think the Giants win 9 games minimum. But who knows, they might start losing too. Maybe 8-8 wins it. I'm just riding it out. Expecting and preparing for next year yet dreaming and praying for a playoff spot. Either way emotionally I'm ready

No way Gmen go 4-2 the rest of the way... they are 5-5, and their last 6 are the toughest part of their schedule.

 

[Wayne02]

Choking isn't bad luck.

That game against the Patriots was bad luck as well as the Saints game.

 

[Staubacher]

That game against the Patriots was bad luck as well as the Saints game.

Nah it's a loss. You could say we were unlucky every time we blew a close game.

Records are what they are. The Giants are a mediocre team with their franchise QB. We are a good team with our franchise QB and a horrible one without him.

 

[Michael88Irvin]

Nah it's a loss. You could say we were unlucky every time we blew a close game.

Records are what they are. The Giants are a mediocre team with their franchise QB. We are a good team with our franchise QB and a horrible one without him.

Exactly!

We are 3-0 WITH our franchise QB, the Giants are 5-5 with theirs. That is the bottomline. We are a better team than the Gmen, and were the odds on favorite to win it all at the beginning of the season (before misfortune struck).

 

[Wayne02]

Nah it's a loss. You could say we were unlucky every time we blew a close game.

Records are what they are. The Giants are a mediocre team with their franchise QB. We are a good team with our franchise QB and a horrible one without him.

Who said that they weren't mediocre? I know those 5 losses are losses, calm down. I responded to the guy who said that the Giants have been getting lucky breaks all season and the fact is, they haven't.

 

[Wayne02]

Exactly!

We are 3-0 WITH our franchise QB, the Giants are 5-5 with theirs. That is the bottomline. We are a better team than the Gmen, and were the odds on favorite to win it all at the beginning of the season (before misfortune struck).

All of that is meaningless if the Cowboys are sitting at home when the playoffs begin.

 

[Staubacher]

Who said that they weren't mediocre? I know those 5 losses are losses, calm down. I responded to the guy who said that the Giants have been getting lucky breaks all season and the fact is, they haven't.

You were correct but they also haven't been unlucky and that's where you were wrong. And "calm down" is not applicable here since there has been nothing in my responses to indicate I'm in some worked-up state.

 

[Wayne02]

You were correct but they also haven't been unlucky and that's where you were wrong. And "calm down" is not applicable here since there has been nothing in my responses to indicate I'm in some worked-up state.

Calm down was very applicable because you're responding back to my posts in a defensive manner. They have lost some games by choking and they have had some unlucky breaks like when OBJ carelessly let the db from the Patriots knock the ball out or when Collins had the interception to seal the game and he came down awkward and the ball popped out, or when the kicker for the Giants grabbed the facemask of the Saints returner putting them in position for the game winning FG. I really didn't think I had to break this down, so no need to get defensive. My point still stands.

 

[JD_KaPow]

If we lose, it is over. 8-8 will not win the division considering tie-breakers, especially if 3 teams are involved.

The playoffs started for Dallas with the Miami game. I think we need to get to 9-7 and win out, to hold any tie breakers.

I don't follow this about the tiebreakers.

If we sweep the Commanders, we finish 4-2 in division and hold the tiebreaker against them.
The Giants and Eagles still have a game against each other. The loser will have a division record no better then 3-3.
If the Commanders manage to beat the winner of the Giants-Eagles game, then we hold all tiebreakers in the division.

That's four games, and nothing unreasonable or unlikely about any of them. Let's look at only those games. If the Giants beat the Eagles and lose to the Commanders, the records are:
Giants: 6-6
Cowboys: 5-7
Eagles: 4-7
Commanders: 5-8

If the Eagles beat the Giants and lose to the Commanders:
Giants: 5-6
Eagles: 5-7
Cowboys: 5-7
Commanders: 5-8

In either case, it's very easy to envision the 8-8 Cowboys winning the division.

 

[Wayne02]

I don't follow this about the tiebreakers.

If we sweep the Commanders, we finish 4-2 in division and hold the tiebreaker against them.
The Giants and Eagles still have a game against each other. The loser will have a division record no better then 3-3.
If the Commanders manage to beat the winner of the Giants-Eagles game, then we hold all tiebreakers in the division.

That's four games, and nothing unreasonable or unlikely about any of them. Let's look at only those games. If the Giants beat the Eagles and lose to the Commanders, the records are:
Giants: 6-6
Cowboys: 5-7
Eagles: 4-7
Commanders: 5-8

If the Eagles beat the Giants and lose to the Commanders:
Giants: 5-6
Eagles: 5-7
Cowboys: 5-7
Commanders: 5-8

In either case, it's very easy to envision the 8-8 Cowboys winning the division.

I've said all along that the division winner will have 8 wins, and it's probably going to come down to the last week to determine the winner.

 

[Staubacher]

Calm down was very applicable because you're responding back to my posts in a defensive manner. They have lost some games by choking and they have had some unlucky breaks like when OBJ carelessly let the db from the Patriots knock the ball out or when Collins had the interception to seal the game and he came down awkward and the ball popped out, or when the kicker for the Giants grabbed the facemask of the Saints returner putting them in position for the game winning FG. I really didn't think I had to break this down, so no need to get defensive. My point still stands.

Correcting you is not being defensive it's called a discussion forum. You seem to be the defensive one and argumentative so I'll bow out and Happy Thanksgiving.

 

[Oh_Canada]

I think energy is better spent enjoying this game as a single-elimination playoff game, rather than spinning wheels about the ifs and whats that might or might not happen around the league. My two cents -- we get to potentially enjoy 10+ weeks of playoff football, starting with tomorrow's HUGE playoff game against an undefeated team. As of right now...this moment...who is luckier than us? Why detract from any of that enjoyment by trying to project the unprojectable?

In other words if they lose tomorrow, it's over

 

[Wayne02]

Correcting you is not being defensive it's called a discussion forum. You seem to be the defensive one and argumentative so I'll bow out and Happy Thanksgiving.

But you didn't correct me, you interjected a point that had nothing to do with what I posted. You got defensive when you said this "Records are what they are. The Giants are a mediocre team with their franchise QB. We are a good team with our franchise QB and a horrible one without him."

What did that have to do with anything with what I said? Why did you bring up QB's? I simply responded to the poster who said that the ball has been bouncing towards the Giants side all season, which is factually incorrect. Does this make sense now?

 

[Craig]

I believe the division can be won at 8-8, and wont really give up until they are mathematically eliminated, so no.

 

[CCBoy]

This is a Thanksgiving game. It is a prime time audience viewed by much of the country. The Cowboys have little to lose, in it's actual play...but a ton to play for.

I actually like the odds that I see this team playing for.

Go Cowboys!

 

[Michael88Irvin]

All of that is meaningless if the Cowboys are sitting at home when the playoffs begin.

Not gonna happen... keep the faith.
We will beat Carolina... and when that happens, the entire dynamic changes with 5 games to go.
1 game behind the Giants in the Win column on Thursday evening... and I predict the Commanders will help us out by beating the Giants on Sunday.

 

[Tabascocat]

I don't follow this about the tiebreakers.

If we sweep the Commanders, we finish 4-2 in division and hold the tiebreaker against them.
The Giants and Eagles still have a game against each other. The loser will have a division record no better then 3-3.
If the Commanders manage to beat the winner of the Giants-Eagles game, then we hold all tiebreakers in the division.

That's four games, and nothing unreasonable or unlikely about any of them. Let's look at only those games. If the Giants beat the Eagles and lose to the Commanders, the records are:
Giants: 6-6
Cowboys: 5-7
Eagles: 4-7
Commanders: 5-8

If the Eagles beat the Giants and lose to the Commanders:
Giants: 5-6
Eagles: 5-7
Cowboys: 5-7
Commanders: 5-8

In either case, it's very easy to envision the 8-8 Cowboys winning the division.

You are correct if we ended in a two-way tie at 8-8...........Dallas would be in a great position. It is the 3-way that hurts us due to conference losses.

 

[Alexander]

Not til math says it's impossible, not this year. Too many extenuating circumstances.

I hate that even one win would have made all of this a moot point and they would have some wiggle room.

But they tried hard in those seven losses. We can take that into the offseason.

 

[zeroburrito]

the team should only give up after they have 9 losses. 8-8 could still possibly win the division.

 

[Alexander]

We won't pack it in from trying to win if we lose to CAR, but it effectively makes the playoffs impossible.

Just goes to show how blowing these critical 4th quarter leads in the Weeden/Cassel era comes back to haunt you.

True, but it also shows you how being offensively conservative in nearly all of the seven losses cost us a chance to win a few times and might have had this team not trying to keep their heads above water.