Gmoat

[Bob Sacamano]

a few plays a game ? lol..mccluster can/would permanently replace crayton, in the slot although hes to small. Felix in the slot would not possess a threat to anyone.

Felix Jones with the ball in the open field wouldn't threaten anyone...

*mulling* yeah, you're right

 

[AustnIsMySaviour]

Felix Jones with the ball in the open field wouldn't threaten anyone...

*mulling* yeah, you're right

i said in the SLOT, not in the OPEN FIELD. He cant run routes, you don't know if he can catch and he's never played in the slot.

no sir, you are right, once again.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

i said in the SLOT, not in the OPEN FIELD. He cant run routes, you don't know if he can catch and he's never played in the slot.

no sir, you are right, once again.

*sigh*

Felix Jones can catch, from NFLDS scouting report:

Receiving: Has natural hands to field kicks and catch passes. Capable of the acrobatic reception. Explosive as a receiver -- will go from stationary to mach speed

Let's not act like McCluster is a great route runner:

Route running: Isn't asked to run a variety of pro-style routes within this offense. Flashes excellent quickness, but is only a marginal route-runner, at this time, despite his athleticism

And where is this thought that Crayton needs to be replaced coming from? 16+ yards a catch and 5 TDs...

 

[AustnIsMySaviour]

*sigh*

Felix Jones can catch, from NFLDS scouting report:

Receiving: Has natural hands to field kicks and catch passes. Capable of the acrobatic reception. Explosive as a receiver -- will go from stationary to mach speed

Let's not act like McCluster is a great route runner:

Route running: Isn't asked to run a variety of pro-style routes within this offense. Flashes excellent quickness, but is only a marginal route-runner, at this time, despite his athleticism

And where is this thought that Crayton needs to be replaced coming from? 16+ yards a catch and 5 TDs...

ahhhhh once again, bob the scout with his little search off a draft site on one players attributes and all the sudden you know everything. THATS BASED ON HIS RECEIVING OUT OF THE BACKFIELD, NOT THE SLOT. COMPLETELY DIFFERENT ? Felix Jones won't do squat in the slot.

and once again, your search up on a scouting site you find one little players attribute and yo know everything. Man this is really starting to piss me off. You have no IDEA how he runs his routes, you haven't seen him play yet you just go to some draft site read up on one section and there you go, a horrible conclusion is made. You Obv didnt watch the SR bowl. He is a very good route runner.

you read a section of a scouting report and all the sudden you're a expert.

As for crayton although hes done a mediocre job there are a lot of players this year who would be upgrades in the slot.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

ahhhhh once again, bob the scout with his little search off a draft site on one players attributes and all the sudden you know everything. THATS BASED ON HIS RECEIVING OUT OF THE BACKFIELD, NOT THE SLOT. COMPLETELY DIFFERENT ? Felix Jones won't do squat in the slot.

YOU said that we didn't know if Felix could catch the ball

I proved that he can

and once again, your search up on a scouting site you find one little players attribute and yo know everything. Man this is really starting to piss me off. You have no IDEA how he runs his routes, you haven't seen him play yet you just go to some draft site read up on one section and there you go, a horrible conclusion is made. You Obv didnt watch the SR bowl. He is a very good route runner.

I watched the game and didn't really catch how he ran routes

and I'm looking at an observation made about him on NFLDS during the week, and it didn't mention his route-running

would you provide me with some examples of his exceptional route-running? k, thanks

As for crayton although hes done a mediocre job there are a lot of players this year who would be upgrades in the slot.

he averages nearly 4 TDs and 14.7 ypc a year...as a 3rd receiver

mediocre alright

 

[AustnIsMySaviour]

YOU said that we didn't know if Felix could catch the ball

I proved that he can



I watched the game and didn't really catch how he ran routes

and I'm looking at an observation made about him on NFLDS during the week, and it didn't mention his route-running

would you provide me with some examples of his exceptional route-running? k, thanks


he averages nearly 4 TDs and 14.7 ypc a year...as a 3rd receiver

mediocre alright

LOL, you didn't 'prove' *hit. Anyone can catch out of the backfield, thanks for that info. I QUESTION HIS ABILITIES RECEIVING FROM THE SLOT. Completely different scenarios. Thats really becoming your trademark. Copying and pasting a analysis off a player from NFLDS and thinking your some expert. Stop embarassing yourself man. Do some research, read, NFLDS isn't everything.

and I never said he had 'exceptional' route running, did I ? And all you need to do is watch some film of the SR bowl.

Dexter McCluster, ATH, Mississippi
I listed McCluster as an athlete because he will do a little bit of everything on offense. He is a good route runner and has great athleticism. That was by Matt Mcguire of Walter Football

OK , practice is over and the star of the day by far was Dexter Mccluster the all purpose player from ole miss. He suprised everybody with his real good route running. He caught everything. he's moved into the 2nd round area. That was Chris Steuber of scout.com

Best Offensive Player in Mobile

Dexter McCluster/RB/Mississippi: McCluster presented himself as the jack-of-all-trades in Mobile and someone who mastered all the applied trades. He was explosive carrying the ball, making defenders miss and creating yardage while also running hard on the inside. Displayed elite route-running abilities. He was also a game-breaking pass catcher who sprinted past opponents down the sidelines. All that's left is for McCluster to showoff his return abilities during the game. He's improved his draft stock at least 30 slots and could now hear his named called as soon as the early portion of Round 2.

That's from National Football posts Wes Bunting

need any more convincing..lol just stop man..please. Watch the film.


and if you're trying to say crayton is anything more then mediocre you just put the icing on the cake..lmao, there are many upgrades available at the slot position.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

LOL, you didn't 'prove' *hit. Anyone can catch out of the backfield, thanks for that info. I QUESTION HIS ABILITIES RECEIVING FROM THE SLOT. Completely different scenarios. Thats really becoming your trademark. Copying and pasting a analysis off a player from NFLDS and thinking your some expert. Stop embarassing yourself man. Do some research, read, NFLDS isn't everything.

Catching the football is catching the football.

Either you catch with your hands (good) or let the ball hit you in the numbers (bad) where you start your route has really no bearing on how you catch the football.

Has natural hands to field kicks and catch passes.

and I never said he had 'exceptional' route running, did I ? And all you need to do is watch some film of the SR bowl.

Exceptional, great, let's not get into an argument over semantics.

Dexter McCluster, ATH, Mississippi
I listed McCluster as an athlete because he will do a little bit of everything on offense. He is a good route runner and has great athleticism. That was by Matt Mcguire of Walter Football

OK , practice is over and the star of the day by far was Dexter Mccluster the all purpose player from ole miss. He suprised everybody with his real good route running. He caught everything. he's moved into the 2nd round area. That was Scott Wright of Draft Countdown

Best Offensive Player in Mobile

Dexter McCluster/RB/Mississippi: McCluster presented himself as the jack-of-all-trades in Mobile and someone who mastered all the applied trades. He was explosive carrying the ball, making defenders miss and creating yardage while also running hard on the inside. Displayed elite route-running abilities. He was also a game-breaking pass catcher who sprinted past opponents down the sidelines. All that's left is for McCluster to showoff his return abilities during the game. He's improved his draft stock at least 30 slots and could now hear his named called as soon as the early portion of Round 2.

That's from National Football posts Wes Bunting

need any more convincing..lol just stop man..please. Watch the film.

I'm not a scout. So I'm just going to let real scouts do all the work for me.

Regardless of what the scouts are saying, and there seems to be a wide range of opinions on his route-running ability, he's going to need work refining it once he hits the pros. He's certainly not a better route-runner than Crayton, and won't be one for quite a while.

and if you're trying to say crayton is anything more then mediocre you just put the icing on the cake..lmao, there are many upgrades available at the slot position.

Please name some 3rd receivers who have put up better stats...

Just saying something doesn't absolutely make it true.

 

[AustnIsMySaviour]

Catching the football is catching the football.

Either you catch with your hands (good) or let the ball hit you in the numbers (bad) where you start your route has really no bearing on how you catch the football.

Has natural hands to field kicks and catch passes.



Exceptional, great, let's not get into an argument over semantics.



I'm not a scout. So I'm just going to let real scouts do all the work for me.

Regardless of what the scouts are saying, and there seems to be a wide range of opinions on his route-running ability, he's going to need work refining it once he hits the pros. He's certainly not a better route-runner than Crayton, and won't be one for quite a while.



Please name some 3rd receivers who have put up better stats...

Just saying something doesn't absolutely make it true.

lol, i'm not arguing the fact that he can't catch the ball. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and say he does have good hands. But what i'm trying to say its completely different catching it from the slot then out of the backfield. I know where you catch the ball has no bearing on how you catch the ball. But what I'm trying to say is that he doesn't have the route running ability or skill set that a slot receiver would normally have, so he'd be really ineffective in the slot. At no point that I say he couldnt catch.


and I dont know whether or not he's a better route runner then crayton, probably not, but I think he'd be more effective, think P. Harvin.

and there are 3rd receivers better then crayton, by that do you mean Slot receivers, or statistics wise ?..your telling me if someone like shipley, ford, gilyard etc fell you wouldn't want them to replace crayton ? ( I know you wouldn't want mccluster)

 

[Bob Sacamano]

lol, i'm not arguing the fact that he can't catch the ball. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and say he does have good hands. But what i'm trying to say its completely different catching it from the slot then out of the backfield. I know where you catch the ball has no bearing on how you catch the ball. But what I'm trying to say is that he doesn't have the route running ability or skill set that a slot receiver would normally have, so he'd be really ineffective in the slot. At no point that I say he couldnt catch.

I'm not saying we should move Felix to the slot, but you can line up RBs like him out there

that would put him in motion to confuse Ds, and get the ball to him in the open field

and I dont know whether or not he's a better route runner then crayton, probably not, but I think he'd be more effective, think P. Harvin.

and there are 3rd receivers better then crayton, by that do you mean Slot receivers, or statistical wise ?..your telling me if someone like shipley, ford, gilyard etc fell you wouldn't want them to replace crayton ?

I'd want to replace Roy Williams

and yes, I'm referring to slot receivers, because that's where Crayton usually lines up at

 

[AustnIsMySaviour]

I'm not saying we should move Felix to the slot, but you can line up RBs like him out there

that would put him in motion to confuse Ds, and get the ball to him in the open field



I'd want to replace Roy Williams

and yes, I'm referring to slot receivers, because that's where Crayton usually lines up at

and I to would like to replace RW but thats a totally different discussion lol. Dont get me started

lmao, I know thats where he lines up but I dont know if you meant is there anyone better based on statistics or based on where he lines up.

In that case, Steve Smith of the giants, Wes Welker, Austin Collie, Steve Breaston, Robert Meachem, Jabar Gafney, percey Harvin, Mario Manningham, Davone Bess, are all better. The fact is jerry would replace crayton before he replaces RW.

 

[casmith07]

lol well a man named Roy Williams is on the roster..

its not a top priority but its pretty high up there

and mccluster wont play Wr probably slot and a little HB

Just stop.

 

[AustnIsMySaviour]

Just stop.

fio buddy

 

[SLATEmosphere]

will the two of you please shut the **** up.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

and I to would like to replace RW but thats a totally different discussion lol. Dont get me started

lmao, I know thats where he lines up but I dont know if you meant is there anyone better based on statistics or based on where he lines up.

In that case, Steve Smith of the giants, Wes Welker, Austin Collie, Steve Breaston, Robert Meachem, Jabar Gafney, percey Harvin, Mario Manningham, Davone Bess, are all better. The fact is jerry would replace crayton before he replaces RW.

He had a higher ypc than those in bold, and one less TD than Harvin, and 2 less than Collie.

Welker is actually a #2 WR.

So as you can see, compared with 3rd WRs, Crayton matches up pretty well, just doesn't see as many passes as these guys on your list.

Not bad.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

will the two of you please shut the **** up.

what's the matter, getting too deep for you?

http://img24.*************/img24/8316/intoodeep.jpg

 

[AustnIsMySaviour]

He had a higher ypc than those in bold, and one less TD than Harvin, and 2 less than Collie.

Welker is actually a #2 WR.

So as you can see, compared with 3rd WRs, Crayton matches up pretty well, just doesn't see as many passes as these guys on your list.

Not bad.

lol you said all slot receivers and welker plays the slot.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

lol you said all slot receivers and welker plays the slot.

So we established that Crayton isn't Wes Welker. (no mention of the fact that Welker saw triple the passes that Crayton did)

Doesn't change the fact that Crayton ranks up there as a slot receiver, and isn't as mediocre as you say. Cripes, none on your list averaged more per catch than Crayton in '09.

 

[JustDezIt]

will the two of you please shut the **** up.

guys cmon. you are screwin up the GMOAT discussion.

 

[CF74]

will the two of you shut the **** up.

fixed

 

[SLATEmosphere]

guys cmon. you are screwin up the GMOAT discussion.

Exactly..instead of bowing down to my GMOAT these two are going back and forth comparing Crayton to Welker..

Fail