GM's Comments on Roy Williams

[Rampage]

The difference between 'can't cover' and 'limited in coverage' is relevant when you're asking about myth v. reality.

only to guys who hang on every word and apparently take everything literally. when someone says "he can't over" it's just an exageration of his poor coverage in someone's opinion. if he couldn't cover literally he wouldn't be in the league.

 

[MarionBarberThe4th]

The good news is we have a slew of new CB talent. So the secondary will only improve on last year. Roy will still be off the field on 3rd and long, but in general the defense will improve

 

[dcfanatic]

Nothing they said was on the list of myths, except the guy who said he "can't cover."

Come one Adam. Even his D Cor said yesterday that 'it's not his greatest attribute'.

 

[WoodysGirl]

Exactly. "Can't cover" means he's not very good at it.

These Roy Williams threads are entertaining in a morbid, circus-freak kind of way.

Agreed. Like watching a train wreck in slow motion.

 

[WDN]

Don't they know anything? Message board heroes know more than anybody.

It is all freaking myths.

 

[MarionBarberThe4th]

Like Adam said, there aren't any myths here other than the can't cover.

One guy essentially says he'd give up a 2nd rounder for him. That actually seems to be a pretty good endorsement to me. There's not a safety in the league that I'd give a 1st round pick for in a trade.

So youd rather have Mike Jenkins than Ed Reed, Bob Sanders, Lanrdry ect.

 

[AbeBeta]

So youd rather have Mike Jenkins than Ed Reed, Bob Sanders, Lanrdry ect.

oh god. don't get the Bob Sanders thing started again....

 

[bbgun]

So youd rather have Mike Jenkins than Ed Reed, Bob Sanders, Landry ect.

I was similarly astounded. None of these guys is worthy of pick 32?

 

[AbeBeta]

I was similarly astounded. None of these guys is worthy of pick 32?

i think it speaks to how highly GMs value first round picks.

kinda speaks to another argument from another day about whether losing a 1st round pick was a severe penalty....

 

[MarionBarberThe4th]

oh god. don't get the Bob Sanders thing started again....

What Bob Sanders thing?

Was there an argument over him being overrated? If so, I agree, hes no Ed Reed, but the guy is good and worth a 1st and then some.

 

[AdamJT13]

Come one Adam. Even his D Cor said yesterday that 'it's not his greatest attribute'.

Stopping the run isn't DeMarcus Ware's greatest attribute. Does that mean he can't stop the run?

There's a difference between saying someone isn't great at something or is limited at something and saying he can't do something at all. It's the difference between accuracy and exaggeration.

 

[AbeBeta]

There's a difference between saying someone isn't great at something or is limited at something and saying he can't do something at all. It's the difference between accuracy and exaggeration.

There is also a difference between a straw man version of a "myth" and a legitimate critique.

 

[AdamJT13]

Roy will still be off the field on 3rd and long

Still? Roy was almost never off the field on third-and-long last season.

 

[AdamJT13]

There is also a difference between a straw man version of a "myth" and a legitimate critique.

You're correct. There's a difference. But some people claim there's no difference.

 

[AbeBeta]

You're correct. There's a difference. But some people claim there's no difference.

To get this straight then, the myth you have busted then is that Roy is unable to cover anyone?

As I pointed out earlier, it seems like you could bust that myth for any DB who has a job in the league.

 

[theogt]

Again, not saying better or worse, just highlighting differences between the players. I wasn't arguing that Harrison was better at anything except being meaner and a better leader - and I don't think anyone can dispute that.

Also, it should be pointed out that Harrison's name starts with an "H" and Williams's last name begins with a "W".

Not saying a name starting with an "H" is better, just highlighting differences between the players.

 

[AdamJT13]

To get this straight then, the myth you have busted then is that Roy is unable to cover anyone?

I don't have to "bust" it, because everyone knows it's not true.

But that doesn't stop people from saying it.

 

[AbeBeta]

Also, it should be pointed out that Harrison's name starts with an "H" and Williams's last name begins with a "W".

Not saying a name starting with an "H" is better, just highlighting differences between the players.

I am so looking forward to your vacation...

 

[AbeBeta]

I don't have to "bust" it, because everyone knows it's not true.

But that doesn't stop people from saying it.

Perhaps you are misinterpreting what they mean. You are interpreting "can't cover" like a robot would. Folks clearly mean that he is not good in coverage.

 

[AdamJT13]

Perhaps you are misinterpreting what they mean. You are interpreting "can't cover" like a robot would. Folks clearly mean that he is not good in coverage.

I know what they mean to say, but that's not what they say. Maybe they should say what they mean, instead of something that's obviously false.