Going best player available gets you Pro Bowl players

[Verdict]

Going best player available gets you pro bowl players like Fred Beard,Tyron Smith, Demarco Murray, Jason Witten, Zack Martin, and the list goes on and on. Drafting for need gets you Greg Ellis instead of Randy Moss, and Shante Carver, Ebeneezer Ekuban, et. al.

I hope the Cowboys continue to select the best player available and stick to their board. It is better to take an all pro punter in the 6th round rather than a guy who will be off the team in a year just because they are trying to fill a hole.

I think that is why there are so many people concerned about forcing Bosa as the pick at #4. If he is the pick I hope it is because he really is viewed as the BPA rather than forcing the pick based on need.

 

[AbeBeta]

Really? Witten we got in the third - we were shocked he was still on the board in the second, but we had a need a center so we took Al Johnson instead

So how is that BPA again?

 

[erod]

I believe in BPA is virtually every situation. Drafting for need so often leads to mistakes on players.

At No. 4, I think that's Ezekiel Elliott, but I don't think they would take him there. Probably trade down unless there's a QB they feel strongly about.

Bosa is a bear trap, and I think they know it. He's Chris Long, and not worthy of that pick.

 

[EST_1986]

BPA would have been JJ Watt not Tyron Smith btw

 

[50cent]

Really? Witten we got in the third - we were shocked he was still on the board in the second, but we had a need a center so we took Al Johnson instead

So how is that BPA again?

I think you're proving his point!

 

[50cent]

BPA would have been JJ Watt not Tyron Smith btw

According to which board? Or just stats hindsight? One could argue Smith was the BPA that happened to fill a need.

 

[CATCH17]

IT usually ends up being BPA at a position of need.

 

[Verdict]

Really? Witten we got in the third - we were shocked he was still on the board in the second, but we had a need a center so we took Al Johnson instead

So how is that BPA again?

Al Johnson was rated highly by us. They were just wrong on him.

 

[Verdict]

BPA would have been JJ Watt not Tyron Smith btw

Actually both were rated highly and were reportedly equal in weight as far as grade at the time. Smith filled a need, for sure but it wasn't a need based pick.

 

[Western]

The best player available that fulfills a team need ~ the two should be viewed jointly.

"Need" to be determined as:
1. Position on the team - not all positions are valued uniformly. All things being equal, a QB has much more value than a corner, defensive lineman, linebacker, safety, or tight end (now sure there are exceptions for a position, if in the 1st round a Barry Sanders, Adrian Peterson, or Lawrence Taylor type exists at a position - it may elevate his particular position over a more highly ranked position, like QB).
2. Current starter of the position (age, future production projection, contract status, injury history, etc.).
3. Current back-up of the starter (quality projection to be the starter).
4. Draft slots/positions are assigned a higher graduated numerical value in earlier selections/rounds. A 1st round selection has, or should have a much higher approximate value than a 3rd rounder.
5. The scouting department's grade assigned to the draftee.

Given the importance and significance of the QB position on a team, the fact that Mr. Romo will be 36 years old at the start of the 2016 season and, does in fact have an injury history and is prone to an injury which can prevent him from playing OR effects his play on the field, the fact there is no current back-up on the Dallas roster that is viewed as a starting QB in the NFL, the fact that Dallas has the 4th pick in the 1st round, & lastly, the presumed public fact that either Wentz or Goff are viewed as top 7 players in the 1st round (and the important fact/percentage that starting QB's are predominately drafted in the 1st round), does suggest overwhelmingly the pick at no. 4 or higher via a trade, should be a QB.

 

[Verdict]

Really? Witten we got in the third - we were shocked he was still on the board in the second, but we had a need a center so we took Al Johnson instead

So how is that BPA again?

We actually took Witten because he was our highest rated player on the board, not because we necessarily needed a tight end, and he has been one of our best picks of all time.

 

[Verdict]

IT usually ends up being BPA at a position of need.

That was the case when we drafted Carver and Ellis and Ekuban. That is why it is a bad idea to approach the draft with that state of mind because it causes reaches.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Yeah let's be real here. No one goes into a draft saying "BPA". Not anyone drafting 25 or earlier. They go into he draft having needs. Some needs more desperate than others. That's when the whole "BPA" argument goes into play. I need a quarterback and a pass rusher. But the best player available is a wide receiver. Most teams are picking between the pass rusher or the quarterback. Whichever one is the better need and not necessarily the better player.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

We actually took Witten because he was our highest rated player on the board, not because we necessarily needed a tight end, and he has been one of our best picks of all time.

Wasn't Dan Cambell our tight end at the time? Hardly not a need.

 

[AbeBeta]

Al Johnson was rated highly by us. They were just wrong on him.

Actually Parcells talked about how they really liked Witten but he felt the center position had held him hostage too many times in the past. That's a clear need over BPA comment.

And I think it is somewhat revisionist history to say we were wrong on Johnson. He injured his knee in camp and needed microfracture surgery. Not many guys come back fully from that. Missed his whole rookie year. He wasn't the same after that (although he was pretty solid in his first year of play). It was a pick that was derailed by injury.

 

[JoeBoBBY]

As an outsider/devoted Fan, I have no pet player or strategy with this draft.......

I look at the Cowboys, in its current situation, and I wonder, when we will pick this high again? We need a future QB to develop........................!!!!

But if we can pick up Elliott by trading down and pick up another pick.....Well, I wont be upset in the least!

Defense is an option to.......but they better "really" like the guy....and hit.

 

[ilykdrama]

BPA would have been JJ Watt not Tyron Smith btw

No difference in those players to me, beside position. I think they both have the same effect on the field. I get what you're saying, though.

 

[ilykdrama]

I believe in BPA is virtually every situation. Drafting for need so often leads to mistakes on players.

At No. 4, I think that's Ezekiel Elliott, but I don't think they would take him there. Probably trade down unless there's a QB they feel strongly about.

Bosa is a bear trap, and I think they know it. He's Chris Long, and not worthy of that pick.

I pretty much agree with Bosa. I also don't think his attitude is amazing. I think BPA at 4 is Zeke or Jack. Zeke is an every down player and Jack can play anwhere from LBer to safety, lol. He's an athletic freak. This draft is VERY tricky. I wouldn't be upset at all to trade back. We can cover all needs without a marquee player. Get a 2nd round QB, or Henry/Collins for RB. Get Corey Coleman if we trade back. Tons of options. Hell, I wouldn't even be too upset to trade up for Ramsey. Can't wait to see what happens. It's like 40 days of Christmas eve. The draft is my absolute favorite time of football season.

 

[TwentyOne]

Going best player available gets you pro bowl players like Fred Beard,Tyron Smith, Demarco Murray, Jason Witten, Zack Martin, and the list goes on and on. Drafting for need gets you Greg Ellis instead of Randy Moss, and Shante Carver, Ebeneezer Ekuban, et. al.

I hope the Cowboys continue to select the best player available and stick to their board. It is better to take an all pro punter in the 6th round rather than a guy who will be off the team in a year just because they are trying to fill a hole.

I think that is why there are so many people concerned about forcing Bosa as the pick at #4. If he is the pick I hope it is because he really is viewed as the BPA rather than forcing the pick based on need.

Give me a statistic with a significant amount of data ( > 10.000) to prove your point.

What we need too is an exact definition of what BPA means and a prove of how one player has to be viewed as that at that specific draft moment.

Without that its a meaningless but i have to admit funny conversation.

 

[FLCowboyFan]

It's not black or white. What if the BPA is a LT? Do you take him? Of course not! You match the BPA against what your team needs. If you draft a specific position then you get in trouble. For instance "we are taking a DE at #4 no matter what". Instead you want to be open to a number of team needs.