Golden Tate - 4.36 Jordan Shipley - 4.57

[21Savage]

Shipley is a lot more explosive than Crayton.

How so?

 

[Woods]

i think ford in the 3rd would be pretty good as well.

he's got incredible speed, good hands, and can play STs.

that's exactly what we need.

 

[speedkilz88]

Fastest 40 yd dash

WRs

Jacoby Ford 4.28
Taylor Price 4.41
Emmanuel Sanders 4.41
Golden Tate 4.42
Brandon Banks 4.43
Kyle Williams 4.43

 

[21Savage]

Seriously?

Just because Shipley ran a 4.57 doesn't mean he isn't fast and quick because if you've watched him he is lightning out there.

But Cowboy fans were worried about Felix Jones speed because he only ran in the 4.4's too and he was barely faster than Mendenhall.



Hes a role player that fits a lot of needs for this team.

If we don't draft him we need to draft someone like him because Ogletree, Austin, and Williams are the guys who will be playing the X and Z so we need someone to get some slot reps too.

Seriously? What needs does he feel for us? Backup slot WR and return man?

If you actually payed attention to our games last year, you'd notice that Miles got a lot of slot reps as well. And who's saying that Ogletree is not getting any reps in the slot?

Give me Gilyard, Mccluster and Ford before Shipley please.

 

[CATCH17]

How so?

Stop please.

 

[Bluestang]

if we are basing 40 times to stock value/"playmaker" then Bruce Cambell should be a beast at tackle, however, his game film says otherwise...

 

[tomson75]

Ahh yes....can we turn this into the official "I base all of my draft knowledge on the 40 results" thread?

 

[CATCH17]

Seriously? What needs does he feel for us? Backup slot WR and return man?

If you actually payed attention to our games last year, you'd notice that Miles got a lot of slot reps as well. And who's saying that Ogletree is not getting any reps in the slot?

Give me Gilyard, Mccluster and Ford before Shipley please.

Lets see... Slot Receiver, Punt Returner, Kick Returner, Holder.

4 positions. If you can get him in the late 3rd-4th than I would say thats good value if he pans out.

Since DB's aren't allowed to be physical and Dallas has so many weapons for teams to worry about I could see Shipley having a lot of success here.

 

[Arch Stanton]

Ahh yes....can we turn this into the official "I base all of my draft knowledge on the 40 results" thread?

:laugh2:

 

[JBS]

Tate not so impressive in the catching drill

 

[SDogo]

2nd round? He'll be gone by 27. This guy is a playmaker.

Doubt it, I still believe your only going to see one or two WR's taken in the first round.

 

[SDogo]

Fastest 40 yd dash

WRs

Jacoby Ford 4.28
Taylor Price 4.41
Emmanuel Sanders 4.41
Golden Tate 4.42
Brandon Banks 4.43
Kyle Williams 4.43

Hard to say because he ran a 4.41 but thats a disappointing time for Price.

 

[Bluestang]

Lets see... Slot Receiver, Punt Returner, Kick Returner, Holder.

4 positions. If you can get him in the late 3rd-4th than I would say thats good value if he pans out.

Since DB's aren't allowed to be physical and Dallas has so many weapons for teams to worry about I could see Shipley having a lot of success here.

That is my argument, this guy brings alot of value for a mid round pick. Oh and BTW Shipley looked way more fluid than Tate in the reciever drills...

 

[RS12]

Love Golden Tate but for some reason I just see him as a complimentary guy in the NFL.


Shipleys 40 is good for Dallas. I bet he tears it up in the cone.

Complimentary? Do you mean complimentary like Anquan Boldin?

 

[CATCH17]

Where can I find an NFL network stream?

 

[Bluestang]

Where can I find an NFL network stream?

http://www.nfl.com/combine

 

[AustnIsMySaviour]

Ahh yes....can we turn this into the official "I base all of my draft knowledge on the 40 results" thread?

thats not the point of this thread, the point was all the shipley lovers were boosting about how he was going to run a 4.3, and in reality he ran a 4.6.

Shipley won't do what crayton can do in his 1st year. IMO Tate can. Hes far more explosive and can play in the slot as well. This Offense needs a playmaker/gamebreaker. Not a chain moving possession type receiver.

 

[VACowboy]

I'm looking for a guy to produce the long ball opposite Austin. If it's a utility guy we're looking for, McCluster is my guy. He's a RB with huge speed, quickness and GREAT hands who also runs superb routes and knows how to create separation. He's a hell of a blocker for a guy his size and lightning in a bottle on special teams. RB. WR. Whatever. Make him our 6th receiver. The guy is football player who just makes plays.

 

[Bluestang]

thats not the point of this thread, the point was all the shipley lovers were boosting about how he was going to run a 4.3, and in reality he ran a 4.6.

Shipley won't do what crayton can do in his 1st year. IMO Tate can. Hes far more explosive and can play in the slot as well. This Offense needs a playmaker/gamebreaker. Not a chain moving possession type receiver.

How can you come to this conclusion? Both guys were impact players on their respective teams. Also so what if he ran a 4.6 in the 40? How fast does he move in pads and what is his football IQ? This is the exact problem with the combine...it's got some glaring flaws.

 

[CATCH17]

thats not the point of this thread, the point was all the shipley lovers were boosting about how he was going to run a 4.3, and in reality he ran a 4.6.

Shipley won't do what crayton can do in his 1st year. IMO Tate can. Hes far more explosive and can play in the slot as well. This Offense needs a playmaker/gamebreaker. Not a chain moving possession type receiver.

Nobody is or should argue about Tate having more pro potential.

But Dallas can't really afford the compensation that it would require to get him because of all of our other needs.

If we take a receiver it needs to be one that is a role player.

On top of all that Jason Garrett has bigtime trust issues with rookies and Tate may get as much PT in year 1 as someone drafted in the mid rounds.