Goodell and the refs have it out for the Cowboys?

[Runwildboys]

Conspiracy to commit crimes of all sorts are tried everyday in this country’s judicial system.

How many of those conspiracies involve the amount of people necessary to pull off a wholesale scripting of any given Sunday? How many of them also come with the risk of losing billions of dollars if even one of the people involved gets cold feet, a guilty conscience, or greedy-greedier? How many involve a product in which most of the people involved think of that product as their "life"?

This isn't a situation where a small group of poor thugs, who have little to lose take a chance at their big payday.

 

[Runwildboys]

Fanboys.
Keep in mind this was all during a live ball.




(The ref isn’t allowed to commit defensive holding against players)

That video needs a lot more context.

 

[MarcusRock]

So I'll pose this question again out there in general:

How does one decipher between a biased call and a call on a bang-bang play where the ref just guessed wrong?

 

[Runwildboys]

So I'll pose this question again out there in general:

How does one decipher between a biased call and a call on a bang-bang play where the ref just guessed wrong?

Logos

 

[MarcusRock]

Logos

Aha! So the most fairly reffed game is a game between the Jaguars and Panthers because refs couldn't have been fans of either growing up because those two are expansion teams. So that game should be circled every time it happens because you'll just get pure football play as an example for all other games. Got it.

 

[ESisback]

Multiple times, everyday someone is complaining about Goodell and the refs having it out for the Cowboys. How they will help Brady out to beat the Cowboys or Rogers or anyone. I’ve asked the question multiple times of some of these posters of , “Who, how and why”. I’ve yet to get a response. So let me lay it out for you.

If Goodell has it out for the Cowboys and is using the refs to influence the game the process would play out something like this. Let’s just take one game. Say the first playoff game. Goodell would have to call in or meet virtually with the officiating crew for that game. Then tell them that he wants them to make sure the Cowboys don’t win or at the least if the call is questionable go in favor of the other team. These refs do this as mostly a hobby as they all have full time jobs. Some are Doctors, lawyers, pilots etc. They don’t need the money so you think any of them would do what Goodell asks? They have reputations to protect. Even if one of them accepted, do you think the other 4 would not tell someone? Of course they would because if they didn’t then they would be just as guilty.

And some of you say this happens every week so every officiating crew should have to be in on it. I mean it’s so ludicrous it’s just unbelievable so many here think this is happening.

The officiating crews for any game make mistakes. That’s what you’re seeing and not some intentional attempt to screw the Cowboys. And these mistakes more often than not, even out.

So this “Goodell and the refs” have it out for the Cowboys is pure conspiracy quackery.

I don’t believe it happens the way you just laid it out, no. I believe the coaches, players, scouts, refs, etc. do the best they can within the confines of the system, the rules set up by the 2%ers. I think it reflects the ideologies of corporate and governmental agendas on the outside world. Because it involves humans, there’s bias, and mistakes are made. JMO.

 

[CowboyRoy]

He's right. It's just an implausible theory. There may be the occasional biased ref, who makes questionable calls, but even that seems doubtful to occur with any frequency. Every team's fans feel the refs are out to get them, and they can't all be right.

There is never any ref or anyone that makes biased calls.

I dont feel like they are out to get us.

 

[Runwildboys]

Aha! So the most fairly reffed game is a game between the Jaguars and Panthers because refs couldn't have been fans of either growing up because those two are expansion teams. So that game should be circled every time it happens because you'll just get pure football play as an example for all other games. Got it.

Oops, sorry. I meant, "Logos?"

 

[DZSierra]

Yeah, that Saints Rams was pretty bad. If I was a Saints fan that might have been it for me.

For myself, they are the only fans who can legitimately claim that they were robbed, and they were...

 

[Verdict]

Another one with the victim mentality. Sure, there may be an official who was born and raised a Giants fan, but with the Cowboys being the most popular team in American there also could be an official or officials that were born and raised Cowboy fans. As for the perception that league officials have anti Cowboys bias, the refs could care less. They have full time jobs and don’t need the money. They’re not going to risk their reputations to swing games. And another thing, they could never keep it quiet. People talk and all it takes is one to tell someone “we’re calling games in favor of any team that plays the Cowboys” and the public would know within a few months. See how dumb this conspiracy theory is?

I personally think it’s naive to not see things for what they are. The fact you and I see things differently is fine. The strength of your convictions do not make them accurate.

I suspect that we will never know how deep the anti Cowboys bias goes, but we can agree to disagree and not make this personal.

 

[AmericasTeam81]

How many of those conspiracies involve the amount of people necessary to pull off a wholesale scripting of any given Sunday? How many of them also come with the risk of losing billions of dollars if even one of the people involved gets cold feet, a guilty conscience, or greedy-greedier? How many involve a product in which most of the people involved think of that product as their "life"?

This isn't a situation where a small group of poor thugs, who have little to lose take a chance at their big payday.

Sounds like you have a lot of trust in the people that run things

 

[Rockport]

I personally think it’s naive to not see things for what they are. The fact you and I see things differently is fine. The strength of your convictions do not make them accurate.

I suspect that we will never know how deep the anti Cowboys bias goes, but we can agree to disagree and not make this personal.

I personally think it’s ignorant to believe in whacko conspiracy theories with absolutely no evidence to support that belief.

 

[Runwildboys]

Sounds like you have a lot of trust in the people that run things

Or I see how much distrust it would take to expect so many people to be trash.

 

[DZSierra]

I personally think it’s naive to not see things for what they are. The fact you and I see things differently is fine. The strength of your convictions do not make them accurate.

I suspect that we will never know how deep the anti Cowboys bias goes, but we can agree to disagree and not make this personal.

I think you're missing the point...

If there was any collusion between referees, someone, sooner or later would say something over the years about what actually happened.

Have you ever refereed any type of sporting activity yourself? I'm sorry, I only did high school sports when I lived up north to keep active with the games. The reality is you don't have time to think on who you "want to call for" to a team being the beneficiary of your call, you only want to try and get it right for the people playing the sport. There is no way you can pick one play and not use your honest opinion to call that play because you never know when the opportunity will rise to make a call to a team you favor.

 

[Rockport]

So I'll pose this question again out there in general:

How does one decipher between a biased call and a call on a bang-bang play where the ref just guessed wrong?

Only a Zoner wearing a tinfoil hat would know. For the rest of us it’s impossible to tell.

 

[DZSierra]

Only a Zoner wearing a tinfoil hat would know. For the rest of us it’s impossible to tell.

Wrong!!!

There is a little hand signal that all referees use when their hand is mid level to their waist after their call is made. You just got to know what to look for

Honestly, being a referee is a thankless job. Even when I was in college and got paid to ref intramural games, no matter what you call, people are always pissed at you (same thing in high school sports). In my defense, I did play some sports as well.

 

[MarcusRock]

Have you ever refereed any type of sporting activity yourself? I'm sorry, I only did high school sports when I lived up north to keep active with the games. The reality is you don't have time to think on who you "want to call for" to a team being the beneficiary of your call, you only want to try and get it right for the people playing the sport. There is no way you can pick one play and not use your honest opinion to call that play because you never know when the opportunity will rise to make a call to a team you favor.

What you say here is exactly what I've heard another on here say about reffing games. In the heat of the moment, you're just giving your best effort to get it right according to your training with no time to think on who it is, etc. @buybuydandavis was that you? Whoever it was, I remember them shutting another poster up so bad they wilted on the spot and had to stand down, lol.

 

[MarcusRock]

Only a Zoner wearing a tinfoil hat would know. For the rest of us it’s impossible to tell.

It's such a simple question. They have answers for everything else. Why not this?

 

[DZSierra]

What you say here is exactly what I've heard another on here say about reffing games. In the heat of the moment, you're just giving your best effort to get it right according to your training with no time to think on who it is, etc. @buybuydandavis was that you? Whoever it was, I remember them shutting another poster up so bad they wilted on the spot and had to stand down, lol.

End of the day, you don't get into refereeing any type of sport to make a call to favor someone, you get into it because you love the game (or, if you have kids that play, they need someone to do it for free LMAO)

I can assure you, anyone who refs a game for free wonders why the heck they did it in the first place with the potential grief you'll get from people who don't like your call.

 

[Flamma]

I used to do the taxes for a now-retired NFL official who would find your conspiracy stuff laughable. Let me guess, HE WAS IN ON IT!

Serious question, why would you waste your time on a sport you truly believed was rigged against your favorite team? It makes no sense.

That's the fly in your ointment. You don't really believe what you're saying. It's a coping mechanism. Otherwise, you wouldn't even be here.

Yeah, what people are seeing are just bad calls. Could a ref, in OT, sway the outcome? Sure he could. But how the hell would he know it's going into OT? He couldn't put money on it based on that.

That said, there are some plays that make me raise my eyebrow. But they are extremely few. Remember back in 2018 when we beat the 10-1 Saints 13-10? Late in the game they called Gregory for neutral zone violation on a play Brees fumbled. I called that ref out as my coping mechanism. It was a terrible call to start. And he waited until Brees was in trouble to throw the flag. But after I cooled off I just realize these refs are just bad.