Goodell and the refs have it out for the Cowboys?

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my past posts have never stated that the Cowboys and Raiders are the only victims of poor officiating. Our most hated rivals like the Eagles and Comodes haven’t benefited from them either

my contention is that anyone who has watched the decades of the Steelers, Packers,Giants, and Patriots know very well that any of their game winning drives will rarely ever see a subjective penalty go against them during the execution of the drive. Nobody was looking for it but after years of observation we realized the trend. It’s not just the numbers of penalties, but the situation as we have pointed out ad nauseum

it’s unprovable and their within lies the ability for officials to control the outcomes of games. It’s not always nefarious as it’s just sheer ineptitude on some of their parts. Look at the disparity of some groups of officials compared to other groups. Completely inconsistent and some are known by their proclivity of being flag heavy and disturbing the natural flow of the game because they want to be participants rather than observants and officials.

in short, NFL officials are biased, inept and self promoters……other than that their probably nice people
I have to say, considering that it was pointed out before the game against the Colts, that the officiating crew we drew was statistically the most flag heavy crew in the league, I was very surprised by the lack of penalties against us.

It makes me want to ask some people: Was it a good job by the refs, or did the Colts get on their #@$& list?
 

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I used to do the taxes for a now-retired NFL official who would find your conspiracy stuff laughable. Let me guess, HE WAS IN ON IT! :muttley:

Serious question, why would you waste your time on a sport you truly believed was rigged against your favorite team? It makes no sense.

That's the fly in your ointment. You don't really believe what you're saying. It's a coping mechanism. Otherwise, you wouldn't even be here.
I'd love to kick the snot outta some of these officials. All refs suck and if you get a good one it's a bonus.
 

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Multiple times, everyday someone is complaining about Goodell and the refs having it out for the Cowboys. How they will help Brady out to beat the Cowboys or Rogers or anyone. I’ve asked the question multiple times of some of these posters of , “Who, how and why”. I’ve yet to get a response. So let me lay it out for you.

If Goodell has it out for the Cowboys and is using the refs to influence the game the process would play out something like this. Let’s just take one game. Say the first playoff game. Goodell would have to call in or meet virtually with the officiating crew for that game. Then tell them that he wants them to make sure the Cowboys don’t win or at the least if the call is questionable go in favor of the other team. These refs do this as mostly a hobby as they all have full time jobs. Some are Doctors, lawyers, pilots etc. They don’t need the money so you think any of them would do what Goodell asks? They have reputations to protect. Even if one of them accepted, do you think the other 4 would not tell someone? Of course they would because if they didn’t then they would be just as guilty.

And some of you say this happens every week so every officiating crew should have to be in on it. I mean it’s so ludicrous it’s just unbelievable so many here think this is happening.

The officiating crews for any game make mistakes. That’s what you’re seeing and not some intentional attempt to screw the Cowboys. And these mistakes more often than not, even out.

So this “Goodell and the refs” have it out for the Cowboys is pure conspiracy quackery.
Just remember this. The refs don't need to hear from Goodell to change the outcome of a game. They can do that all by themselves. One bad call in a close game can make the difference. These guys are humans and the Cowboys are one of these teams that you either love em or you hate em. There is no neutral. How did you like the way the refs screwed the Saints a few years ago on a blatant pass int penalty against the Rams.
 

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You're in denial. Plain and simple. Lots of games over recent years as evidence.
First, that's irrelelvent to the NCAA ref. That argument, if one accepts it at all, only suggests that it can happen as a general practice, not that it has happened in the NFL, or to who.

As for what you refer to as evidence, I believe that evidence boils down to fans being fans. Here is what I wrote in another post ....

Cowboy fans are hyper focused on the Cowboys, which is natural, and as such every missed or wrong call stirs emotions and sticks in their brains. And they are watching every down of Cowboy games, and every one of these calls or non calls has that effect.

With other games involving other teams, Cowboy fans don't focus as hard on every play, so they don't see every one, they don't have the same emotional response to those missed or bad calls, and those calls don't stick in their brains every time because they just don't care as much if another team gets hurt by a call.

The result of this is that it creates the perception in the brain that it happens more often, and more egregiously with the Cowboys than with other teams.
 

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They work for the league who has interest in the way some games and players should be called. You know 2 and 2 sometimes equals 4.
So league officials are telling the refs to favor players and or teams in exchange for what?
 

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Just remember this. The refs don't need to hear from Goodell to change the outcome of a game. They can do that all by themselves. One bad call in a close game can make the difference. These guys are humans and the Cowboys are one of these teams that you either love em or you hate em. There is no neutral. How did you like the way the refs screwed the Saints a few years ago on a blatant pass int penalty against the Rams.
I totally agree that refs make mistakes. Every game I think they make mistakes but there is no intent to favor one team or another in a league wide conspiracy. Sure there are bias refs and again, since the Cowboys are the most favored team in the US, it’s logical and common sense that they would be the beneficiary of these biased calls more so than the other team right?
 

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I totally agree that refs make mistakes. Every game I think they make mistakes but there is no intent to favor one team or another in a league wide conspiracy. Sure there are bias refs and again, since the Cowboys are the most favored team in the US, it’s logical and common sense that they would be the beneficiary of these biased calls more so than the other team right?

It never works that way. In response to this, they'll say, "well, most refs are from the northeast so they like those teams and hate the Cowboys, yeah, that's it."

If you say, "well Dallas is the highest ratings-pulling team so why not have them go deep into the playoffs every year and get to the Super Bowl to get sky high ratings there too?" they will say, "well they are also the most hated so the NFL makes them fail to satisfy those fans because there's more of them."

Last year when we led the league in penalties, it was, "See? Those numbers are proof!" Earlier this year when we were middle of the pack in penalties, it was, "It's not about the numbers, it's about when they call the penalties."

And on and on.
 

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I totally agree that refs make mistakes. Every game I think they make mistakes but there is no intent to favor one team or another in a league wide conspiracy. Sure there are bias refs and again, since the Cowboys are the most favored team in the US, it’s logical and common sense that they would be the beneficiary of these biased calls more so than the other team right?
What I was trying to say is there are probably more refs that dislike the Cowboys than like them. And that why they don't get the benefit of doubt or get a bias call as often as their opponent.
 

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What I was trying to say is there are probably more refs that dislike the Cowboys than like them. And that why they don't get the benefit of doubt or get a bias call as often as their opponent.

I'm just curious. What makes something a biased call versus a wrong call? You'd need to see inside their head to know if it was biased versus it just being a bang-bang play where they guessed wrong.
 

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If that’s the case then the Cowboys, being the most popular team in America, would have many more of these bias refs now wouldn’t they?
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No. If so you’d see those unique plays called on our opponents. And like I said, no one disputes how unique those calls are.
 

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I'll be honest, these guys are human. I'm sure there's teams they would root for prior to becoming refs. I know if i was a ref I'd help the Cowboys with calls, and if I was a betting man I'd definetly cover spreads. These guys are humans and I'm sure they're biased one way or another.
 

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What I was trying to say is there are probably more refs that dislike the Cowboys than like them. And that why they don't get the benefit of doubt or get a bias call as often as their opponent.
That goes against logic. The Cowboys have the biggest fan base in the NFL. So common sense says there would be more refs with bias towards the Cowboys.
 

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End of the day, I'm pretty certain every team is screwed by a bad call during a game, but the reality is if you're a superior team, a blown call "here or there" won't determine the final outcome of the game if you're truly the better team (not that it matters, I feel the same way about Brady and Rogers).

Thing is, don't give the refs something stupid to call that boils down to a lack of discipline (basically staying away from a stupid offsides or illegal formation during an important drive to score).

The only team I really felt sorry for was the Saints when they lost to the rams due to a blatant PI blown call that I felt determined the outcome of the game. Ironically enough, even after that blown PI call, after a year of experimenting with having PI calls reviewable, the NFL ownership felt it wasn't "worthy" enough to implement. I'm sorry, but if something is so blatantly missed during a post season game where it determines who is moving on the final game, I'm just kind of scratching my head over that.
Yeah, that Saints Rams was pretty bad. If I was a Saints fan that might have been it for me.
 
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