Gosselin: Jason Garrett, staff let Cowboys down when they were needed most

[ScipioCowboy]

The offense is designed around optimizing the QB asset that is expected to play most games. (And has.)

Weeden, turns out, was a bad choice for this offense. Turns out his replacement wasn't much better.

But when they finally got a more mobile and much quicker release guy playing back there, it gave them a shot against one of the best defenses in the entire NFL (!).

Who knew.

The new kid isn't actually all that good. He's just brings the right set of skills.

What might happen if we actually get someone with those skills who is good?

I say we find out.

Your defense of Garrett here is based completely on a hypothetical scenario. As such, it's not particularly compelling.

 

[cml750]

Fans are hilarious.

"Fire Garrett!!! Hire Sean Payton!!!"

Sean Payton's 5-8 this year with Drew Brees at QB. He went 7-9 last year. Why is he automatically the savior while Garrett's a bum who should be fired?

Garrett since 2014: 16-14
Payton since 2014: 12-17

And 10 of those losses by Garrett came without his starting QB.

The Saints do not have a team like we have. They got Brees but not much else right now. When Payton had a good team he won it all. Garrett?? Well the results speak for themselves.

 

[Coy]

Like him or not, Gosselin flat out nailed it.

 

[Nav22]

Sean Payton...

Jason Carrot...

LOL! Wonderful illustration of the point I made.

Say... why were Payton's 2 MOST RECENT seasons omitted?

Oh right, because the Saints have been pure trash. Even with a healthy starting QB.

 

[DallasCowboys2080]

LOL! Wonderful illustration of the point I made.

Say... why were Payton's 2 MOST RECENT seasons omitted?

Oh right, because the Saints have been pure trash. Even with a healthy starting QB.

his resume is better than Carrots. He has an SB under his belt. If you cant see that I don't know what to tell you.

im not advocating for Payton. But based on history his work has been better than JG's.

also it was just clipped. no reason. the point still remains.

 

[Nav22]

The Saints do not have a team like we have. They got Brees but not much else right now. When Payton had a good team he won it all. Garrett?? Well the results speak for themselves.

"Like we have"... so you're implying that the Cowboys have great talent?

Okay. So who gets credit for that? Can't be Garrett. Can't be Jerry Jones. So who is it?

And whose fault is it that the Saints DON'T have great talent? Not Sean Payton, obviously.

Yep, fans are hilarious!

 

[Nav22]

his resume is better than Carrots. He has an SB under his belt. If you cant see that I don't know what to tell you.

im not advocating for Payton. But based on history his work has been better than JG's.

also it was just clipped. no reason. the point still remains.

And what did that superior resume mean for the Saints since 2014? Jack squat.

Resumes don't win games. Health, talent and continuity wins games.

If the Cowboys leaders (Romo, Witten, Dez, Lee etc) still believe in Garrett, he's the guy. Same exact coach who won 12 games last year with his starting QB actually playing.

 

[ScipioCowboy]

"Like we have"... so you're implying that the Cowboys have great talent?

Okay. So who gets credit for that? Can't be Garrett. Can't be Jerry Jones. So who is it?

And whose fault is it that the Saints DON'T have great talent? Not Sean Payton, obviously.

Yep, fans are hilarious!

Your logic is just as poor as the strawman you've created. Observe:

"So you don't think the Cowboys have great talent? Whose fault is that after five years?

Yep, fans are hilarious."

See how easy that was?

 

[cml750]

"Like we have"... so you're implying that the Cowboys have great talent?

Okay. So who gets credit for that? Can't be Garrett. Can't be Jerry Jones. So who is it?

And whose fault is it that the Saints DON'T have great talent? Not Sean Payton, obviously.

Yep, fans are hilarious!

So you think the Saints are as talented as us??? Seriously??? Does Garrett get credit for our roster? I would say he had input but he does not call those shots, same with Payton. Payton has proven he can win with a good team hasn't he???? What has Garrett proven other than he has a VERY long proess of stacking and clapping!!!

 

[dreghorn2]

Cliche

Tuna Lite was semi retired when he got here, he was only here to recoup on the riches he lost in his divorce settlement.

Don't believe the fallen pebble okie dole

Parcells time in Dallas was much a do about nothing.

Nothing could be further from the truth, one only needs to look at Parcell's post game presser after our 8th win in his first season, he got very emotional and almost broke down when declaring 'you can't call these guys losers anymore', Bill Parcells never floated through a coaching job ever.

 

[Jerryrage]

Coaches get paid to win them. It's their job to put players in the best position to succeed. The proper play call, the proper substitution, the proper clock management, the strategic timeout -- it's the job of the coaching staff to find ways to win games. Regardless whom the quarterback is.


WoW!

 

[DallasCowboys2080]

And what did that superior resume mean for the Saints since 2014? Jack squat.

Resumes don't win games. Health, talent and continuity wins games.

If the Cowboys leaders (Romo, Witten, Dez, Lee etc) still believe in Garrett, he's the guy. Same exact coach who won 12 games last year with his starting QB actually playing.

you cant be serious? Are you trolling?
im sorry but what has Carrot done again that you think he is a good coach? Because I don't see an SB win or showing for that matter under his belt?

if continuity won games Garret wouldnt be seeing only 4 wins so far this season. Health you say? Hmmm what other teams this year have won games with backup QBs?
BS EXCUSES.

 

[PoundTheRock]

Need pieces like this every week.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

True, but his real value is organizational and not scheme and strategy.

I think he's been given a pass for the most part while Jerry gets most of the blame for the incompetence.

Its almost surreal that you would try that reasoning on me.

 

[Nav22]

Your logic is just as poor as the strawman you've created. Observe:

"So you don't think the Cowboys have great talent? Whose fault is that after five years?

Yep, fans are hilarious."

See how easy that was?

Wrong on every level possible.

I never once spoke about whether or not the Cowboys have great talent. For the record, I do think we're a talented team when healthy.

I responded to someone who claims we that do have talent and who's clearly opposed to our coach who a) helped us acquire that talent, and b) won 12 games with much of that talent a season ago.

That's why it's funny to me. He calls the Cowboys talented in order to tear down the coach for underachieving, but doesn't want to give ANYBODY credit for bringing in that talent. Typical logic failure that I see all the time from Cowboys fans.

 

[DallasCowboys2080]

LOL! Wonderful illustration of the point I made.

Say... why were Payton's 2 MOST RECENT seasons omitted?

so why were Payton's other seasons omitted from yours?


you're cutting a critical piece to prove your point for obvious reasons. since 2014? why since 2014? oh because 2014 was the only season JG had above .500. i get it. LOL

which was his contract season mind you.

 

[Nav22]

you cant be serious? Are you trolling?
im sorry but what has Carrot done again that you think he is a good coach? Because I don't see an SB win or showing for that matter under his belt?

if continuity won games Garret wouldnt be seeing only 4 wins so far this season. Health you say? Hmmm what other teams this year have won games with backup QBs?
BS EXCUSES.

Hahaha!

That's my response to you and your failure to reach logical conclusions based on the evidence presented.

 

[PoundTheRock]

Wrong on every level possible.

I never once spoke about whether or not the Cowboys have great talent. For the record, I do think we're a talented team when healthy.

I responded to someone who claims we that do have talent and who's clearly opposed to our coach who a) helped us acquire that talent, and b) won 12 games with much of that talent a season ago.

That's why it's funny to me. He calls the Cowboys talented in order to tear down the coach for underachieving, but doesn't want to give ANYBODY credit for bringing in that talent. Typical logic failure that I see all the time from Cowboys fans.

If Garrett's job here is just to assemble talent and not coach the players he should be working in the front office, not coaching.

 

[DallasCowboys2080]

Hahaha!

That's my response to you and your failure to reach logical conclusions based on the evidence presented.

 

[cml750]

Wrong on every level possible.

I never once spoke about whether or not the Cowboys have great talent. For the record, I do think we're a talented team when healthy.

I responded to someone who claims we that do have talent and who's clearly opposed to our coach who a) helped us acquire that talent, and b) won 12 games with much of that talent a season ago.

That's why it's funny to me. He calls the Cowboys talented in order to tear down the coach for underachieving, but doesn't want to give ANYBODY credit for bringing in that talent. Typical logic failure that I see all the time from Cowboys fans.

When was Garrett given the GM title??? I missed the headline saying Jerry gave up that responsibility. This is a big deal. Thanks for breaking the story.