Gosselin: Jason Garrett, staff let Cowboys down when they were needed most

[FuzzyLumpkins]

But if its an article that changes your mind you are getting some new info usually. I think whats different about this article is that even tho its stating the obvious, the mediots have largely ignored writing the obvious about Mr Teflon for so long. So in that sense its kinda refreshing.

Garrett is teflon? I find that hard to imagine given even the flagship questions him.

The article reads like him going through a series of unfortunate events and then laying them at the feet of the coaches saying "they should have done more."

It's a writing style and I get that but ultimately it glorifies what went wrong and then assumes itself in cause. He states his central argument "that in these crucial circumstances the coaches should have been able to come through." You cannot really disagree with it because its so meaningless.

Garrett is still not all bad traits and is average when fairly measured by W-L. I want better but he's not worthless. If we have to wait a year to get Payton then I can deal with one more year of Garrett. Just have the discipline to not be wowed by short term variance.

 

[Dave_in-NC]

You just proved his point........if you have to have Romo to win a game, you are not much of a coach

90% of the coaches in the league could win with Romo, it's the good coaches that win with backups

Your math is a tad off. 99% of the coaches could win with Romo.

 

[WPBCowboysFan]

a clapping sound track on and a card board cut of Jason

 

[cml750]

i always wanted someone to make a video of different clips of JG saying "it's a process" and "we will go back to study the tape and clean things up" or "we will look at the tape and get better", or that 3 phases of the game comment that he always makes. you know those qoutes of him saying the same stuff over and over and over and over again. he has said it so much for so long its mind numbing coupled with the fact that the changes havent been made.

yeah great its nice to say you are going to go back and look at the tape and clean things up and get better but the fact that you don't get better is the issue.

i think he said it again after the recent Jets game LOL

anyways if anyone has any spare time! make that video you have a lot of material to dig through and use. 5 to 7 years worth.

That would take a month and would be an 8 hour video clip!!!

 

[WPBCowboysFan]

Garrett is still not all bad traits and is average when fairly measured by W-L. I want better but he's not worthless.

True, but his real value is organizational and not scheme and strategy.

I think he's been given a pass for the most part while Jerry gets most of the blame for the incompetence.

 

[DallasCowboys2080]

That would take a month and would be an 8 hour video clip!!!

there you go! and that would drive the point in like nothing else can. 8 hours of him saying the same thing over and over and over again. can you imagine?

you would think that with the amount of times he said he would go back and clean things up that they would have had at least 1SB win out of it or at least some Conference playoff game showings because they have had a lot of time to clean things up and get better.

 

[WPBCowboysFan]

That would take a month and would be an 8 hour video clip!!!

Actually just do one presser and put it on a continuous loop and it would be the same . . .

 

[WPBCowboysFan]

there you go! and that would drive the point in like nothing else can. 8 hours of him saying the same thing over and over and over again. can you imagine?

yea I can imagine. Ive seen it for 5 + years so 8 hours would be nothing

 

[virginiacowboy]

With the Texans managing to get production out of Weeden it is what it is. We need to draft a QB but Garrett and company do not inspire much confidence that they can do anything with the position. Without Romo, Garrett struggles.

I don't blame the players. They are going to set up what they can to get things done but for a coach that talks about "attention to detail" he seems a bit obtuse. That's not all on Garrett. All of this is made possible by the guy at the top who still insists on being called GM despite hiring Will McClay and having his son negotiate his contracts. The man whose primary purposes seems to be to undermine the authority of the people administering under him: Jerry Jones.

This is a truly fantastic post! I've been a member on the board for years and an infrequent poster. I think I began to realize that the franchise had run off the rails when the players were cut for dress code violation. You see, this is the type of "tough guy" management veneer that makes the organization believe that it is has some kind of special culture and institutional standards. In other words trying to recreate Jimmy Johnson mystique without everything else that made his teams work.

This kind of high standard faux management is evidence to me that Garrett has failed and the organization is now regressing when the on-field talent was insufficient to overcome the coaching deficiency. I have been amazed to see players leave this team and find moderate to great success over and over. Today even Weeden was able to contribute and lead the Texans to victory when he looked inept here. Dwayne Harris' performance for the Giants is another example of how minor contributors can leave and then thrive elsewhere.

I watched a Steelers game this season when they were able to win with Michael Vick at QB!! I mean seriously...Gosselin's article will likely be dismissed by ownership (who listens to mediots?) in the same way others have on the board. To fix this problem they have to first admit a problem. A top-five draft pick won't fix this mess.

 

[Nav22]

Fans are hilarious.

"Fire Garrett!!! Hire Sean Payton!!!"

Sean Payton's 5-8 this year with Drew Brees at QB. He went 7-9 last year. Why is he automatically the savior while Garrett's a bum who should be fired?

Garrett since 2014: 16-14
Payton since 2014: 12-17

And 10 of those losses by Garrett came without his starting QB.

 

[_sturt_]

You just proved his point........if you have to have Romo to win a game, you are not much of a coach

90% of the coaches in the league could win with Romo, it's the good coaches that win with backups

Two issues with this. Not to talk down to you, but I want you to think about this, okay?

First...

You actually prove MY point, but it evidently evaded you that you were doing so...

Notice, I said that with a Kitna clone, we would have won some...
Not saying you need a Romo, then "to win a game"... you get that, right?

And I am saying that if you wanted to win all of those games, yes, Romo was necessary.

You dispute that, though? You think a "good" coach would have won all of them?

Second...

I'm saying that it turns out that a player who had never played a real NFL game in his life outperformed the two guys who actually had a lot of games under their belt.

What does that tell me?

That tells me that we had really bad QBs, at least for this system designed around Romo, and that our player acquisition people didn't get their job done. Coaches can only coach the players they're handed.

That tells me, in conclusion, that indeed a Jon Kitna clone would have won some games, and looking at the rest of the division, would have almost certainly gotten us into the playoffs.

We didn't have that asset.

Tell me where I'm wrong. I don't think I am.

 

[DallasCowboys2080]

Actually just do one presser and put it on a continuous loop and it would be the same . . .

haha great idea. it be a little easier that way. anyone know if any of this stuff is archived?

 

[Rogerthat12]

there you go! and that would drive the point in like nothing else can. 8 hours of him saying the same thing over and over and over again. can you imagine?

you would think that with the amount of times he said he would go back and clean things up that they would have had at least 1SB win out of it or at least some Conference playoff game showings because they have had a lot of time to clean things up and get better.

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[DallasCowboys2080]

Fans are hilarious.

"Fire Garrett!!! Hire Sean Payton!!!"

Sean Payton's 5-8 this year with Drew Brees at QB. He went 7-9 last year. Why is he automatically the savior while Garrett's a bum who should be fired?

Garrett since 2014: 16-14
Payton since 2014: 12-17

And 10 of those losses by Garrett came without his starting QB.

Sean Payton...

Jason Carrot...

 

[WPBCowboysFan]

haha great idea. it be a little easier that way. anyone know if any of this stuff is archived?

If somebody actually made a video of all the different times it would be funny.

And it would have to have some, "oh, I dunno, we think . . . . . . . . . . . "

 

[_sturt_]

With the Texans managing to get production out of Weeden it is what it is. We need to draft a QB but Garrett and company do not inspire much confidence that they can do anything with the position. Without Romo, Garrett struggles.

The offense is designed around optimizing the QB asset that is expected to play most games. (And has.)

Weeden, turns out, was a bad choice for this offense. Turns out his replacement wasn't much better.

But when they finally got a more mobile and much quicker release guy playing back there, it gave them a shot against one of the best defenses in the entire NFL (!).

Who knew.

The new kid isn't actually all that good. He's just brings the right set of skills.

What might happen if we actually get someone with those skills who is good?

I say we find out.

 

[DallasCowboys2080]

If somebody actually made a video of all the different times it would be funny.

And it would have to have some, "oh, I dunno, we think . . . . . . . . . . . "

or "How you doing guys"

 

[WPBCowboysFan]

or "How you doing guys"

With the smile.

I wonder when he'll start winking like Jerry?

 

[ScipioCowboy]

Here's the deal: If you need the NFL's highest rated passer and leading rusher just to get a win in the wildcard round, you're probably a mediocre at best coach.

 

[Miller]

"I spent 19 years as the NFL columnist for this newspaper, and there's one game that stands out above all others in the 400-plus games I attended during that stretch.

It was played in November 1997 between the Green Bay Packers and Colts at Indianapolis. The Packers were the defending NFL champions on their way to another Super Bowl that season. The Colts were 0-10 and playing a backup quarterback that day.

But Paul Justin, filling in for an injured Jim Harbaugh, outplayed Brett Favre at quarterback and the Colts prevailed, 41-38, on a field goal at the gun. It was a coaching victory, a gameplanning victory, by Lindy Infante and his staff. The Colts ran the ball, milked the clock and Justin played turnover-free football for the upset. I saw that day how coaching can make a difference and help a team win a game it has no business winning.

Coaching has not made a difference for the Cowboys this season...."

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Called spot on! Nothing else to say