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maybe a little low - but i'd not call that sensationalist.

rookie qb
rookie rb
wr w/injury and pouty history
defense is currently suspended

you can't judge on potential and hope and be realistic.
Someone get this a guy walking stick before he walks into traffic...
 

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maybe a little low - but i'd not call that sensationalist.

rookie qb
rookie rb
wr w/injury and pouty history
defense is currently suspended

you can't judge on potential and hope and be realistic.
Every prediction is based on potential. If your using Zeke and Dez as negatives you're also not being realistic.
 

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Wait...what? You can't seriously believe this team is worse off then 24 other teams in this league. Please provide a list if so...should be good for a laugh.
Obviously on offense we are not but then we're relying on 2 Rookies to carry us including at QB. Unknown assets at this point.

And that doesn't include if Dez is completely recovered. He looked great initially but then the concussion. Wittens production is fading . Morris looks like a great addition but again unproven on this team . Too many unknowns going in without Romo which probably would have been upper tier and it still could be . We'll see .

Our defense appears to be a bottom tier so I'd say yes. 24 other teams probably are better. And we weren't sure how much it would hold us back even with Romo.

I'm not sure Id rank us as low as Gosselin did but I certainly wouldnt rank us in upper half until we have some sample size on both sides of the ball. We'll have a better sense soon.
 

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So the Cowboys are starting a Rookie QB, Rookie RB, coming off a 4-12 record, Defense looks like garbage once again, three suspended players including two defensive ends.....and Yet Goose is the problem!!......some are still drunk on the Jerry Jones koolaid

Come on now. We were far from a super bowl team.

By with Romo, Dez, Scandrick etc. we're much better than 4-12. Hell, Cassel and Weeden could've easily had us at 8-8 or 9-7 with a few bounces.

At worst we are in the 12-20 range.
 

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Come on now. We were far from a super bowl team.

By with Romo, Dez, Scandrick etc. we're much better than 4-12. Hell, Cassel and Weeden could've easily had us at 8-8 or 9-7 with a few bounces.

At worst we are in the 12-20 range.
Remember our defense is less 3 of our most talented players and offense less Romo.

How much lower would we rank teams across the NFL if we took their QB and 3 of most talented defensive players out?
 

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I'd say he's expecting similar results to last year without Romo.

If we still can't win without Romo this ranking might not be far off. Our defense has the possibility of being as bad as 2012 and 2013 which ranked as some of the worse in Cowboy history.

Dak can absolutely make a huge difference but it's an unproven commodity at this time. That's possibly fixing to change. An impressive opening win Sunday will dispel all of the more realistic and negative thoughts .

Bottom line is we really don't know what to expect . Any overly optimistic views at this time are based mostly on some brief preseason performances assuming with a strong running game we will revert to 2014 form without Romo.

I'm taking a wait and see approach and using caution for optimism. I felt even with Romo he was going to have to overcome our defense assuming he could stay healthy.

I'm excited about the potential of Dak, Zeke and this star studded offense but again it's an unproven commodity . The outlook by prognostic sportswriters and fans will flip quickly with winning results .

Good post, fair and balanced.

There's a lot of potential with the upgrade at running back and a more mature offensive line. But ...

We have no pass rushers with our best one suspended for four games, and we lost our franchise quarterback.

Without Romo last year, we went 4-12. Talent-wise Dak is better than Weeden, Cassel or Moore, but he's inexperienced. And based on the odds, he's going to struggle as a rookie quarterback.

I think we definitely win more than four games, but I can't fault Goose believing we'll be as bad, if not worse, than last year.

Then again, that's why they play the games.
 

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Bayless is the opposite of Gosselin. He actually is a Cowboys homer.
That is all shtick. I don't think he really likes the Cowboys. He spent the 90s trying to bring the organization down with lies and rumors (not just Troy).
 

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Wait...what? You can't seriously believe this team is worse off then 24 other teams in this league. Please provide a list if so...should be good for a laugh.

How can anyone really say we are better than last years 4-12 season? What have we done to improve? We did nothing in free agency...

Thornton is a complete bust...Durant is window dressing

Our best pass rushers suspended/not resigned.

Mcfadden put up 1100 yards in 11 games or so....So Is Elliot gonna be that much better to propel us???? I have my doubts.

Romo hurt again already...

As for the rest of the draft...I see little help coming.

We didn't take advantage of having one of the top waiver priorities.

And probably most of all...I have little faith in this defensive coaching staff.

Not to sound like a downer...but that is the reality we are facing...:banghead:
 

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It's part just trying to generate hits and eyeballs to his article.

But in reality, many here complaining about the power rankings would absolutely agree with a low 20s ranking if it was one of our rivals running out a rookie QB and a suspect defense.

Personally, until we see Prescott play and this defense play, I would think a low 20s, maybe high teens if you feel really optimistic, ranking is fairly appropriate.
 

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Wait...what? You can't seriously believe this team is worse off then 24 other teams in this league. Please provide a list if so...should be good for a laugh.

Were would you put the Cowboys? Right now.

Certainly, if Prescott performs at a high level, which is possible, this team can be pretty good. If the D surprises and holds it own until Lawrence and Gregory are back, which is possible, they can be pretty decent.

But right now, on a paper, with a rookie QB who has never taken a snap in a real NFL game and a defense that even the biggest homers admit has some holes and questions, where would you think the Cowboys should be ranked?
 

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Obviously on offense we are not but then we're relying on 2 Rookies to carry us including at QB. Unknown assets at this point.

And that doesn't include if Dez is completely recovered. He looked great initially but then the concussion. Wittens production is fading . Morris looks like a great addition but again unproven on this team . Too many unknowns going in without Romo which probably would have been upper tier and it still could be . We'll see .

Our defense appears to be a bottom tier so I'd say yes. 24 other teams probably are better. And we weren't sure how much it would hold us back even with Romo.

I'm not sure Id rank us as low as Gosselin did but I certainly wouldnt rank us in upper half until we have some sample size on both sides of the ball. We'll have a better sense soon.
Everything is unknown. Except the parts that suck. Those are well known. And all these other teams, why it's all known for them too. That's why they're better. Near flawless cognitive dissonance you've got there.
 

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maybe a little low - but i'd not call that sensationalist.

rookie qb
rookie rb
wr w/injury and pouty history
defense is currently suspended

you can't judge on potential and hope and be realistic.

Throwing "rookie rb" out there looks good if you're predicting gloom and doom for a team starting one, but a rookie running back is nothing like a rookie QB. I don't see how anyone can actually watch Zeke play and believe he'll be anything but a huge upgrade at his position in every way.

Dez is passionate about football, his team and winning. He doesn't cry when he gets smacked around and shut down like OBJ does. He gets upset when the team loses and there's nothing he can do about it. I'll take that on my team every day. Despite the media line, Dez is NOT a problem for the Cowboys.

The team will certainly miss DLaw, but I'm not getting the hand-wringing over McClain and Gregory. McClain has had a couple of pretty good seasons in Dallas but you never know when he's just not gonna show up, physically, mentally or otherwise, or test positive for something. As for Gregory, he had zero impact on the Dallas D last year. So while I can see their absences creating number and roster issues, the drop off from McClain and especially Gregory just doesn't look significant to me. In fact, I would argue that we're getting our two best defensive players back on the field together for the first time since 2013, adding a healthy Tyrone Crawford, replacing Nick Hayden and letting Byron Jones concentrate on playing safety after a rookie season where he flourished dividing his attention among every position in the defensive backfield. Cedric Thornton is certainly an upgrade as is Anthony Brown, who looks like he can play and may be a sixth-round steal. Mo is healthy and had a great offseason and Carr looks much more comfortable having switched back to the right side where he flourished in KC. Bottom line, despite the droning of the media, the Dallas Defense looks like an improvement to me.

In the end, as always, the success of the Dallas Cowboys in 2016 will come down to it's QB. But Prescott doesn't have to be Romo. If he takes care of the ball and makes a couple of throws, the Cowboys offense is going to punish some teams and win some games. If the preseason was an illusion and Dak plays like a lost lamb, we'll be looking at ofer when Tony gets back. It's that simple, and the rest is BS.

Just my $0.02.
 

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It's damn tough to get read these days. Gosselin's profession abandoned him. It's now run by TMZ and Dead spin.

Adapt or jump ship.
That's the state of today's sports media
 

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How can anyone really say we are better than last years 4-12 season? What have we done to improve? We did nothing in free agency...

Thornton is a complete bust...Durant is window dressing

Our best pass rushers suspended/not resigned.

Mcfadden put up 1100 yards in 11 games or so....So Is Elliot gonna be that much better to propel us???? I have my doubts.

Romo hurt again already...

As for the rest of the draft...I see little help coming.

We didn't take advantage of having one of the top waiver priorities.

And probably most of all...I have little faith in this defensive coaching staff.

Not to sound like a downer...but that is the reality we are facing...:banghead:

There was nothing in free agency to begin with, I would take Frederick extension to overpay DE Vernon like Giants did. We get a healthy Scandrick back. Second year for a very promising David Irving, we singed Thronton which you haven´t seen any game of and still call him a bust. We will get Lawrence back after just 4 games. This defense was ranked around the 15th range last year if I recall correctly, most of the game we lost last year were by one score because our offense couldn´t put up points, not because our defense couldn´t stop opposing teams. The problem last year was not sacks, it was the lack of turnovers which in 2014 we were one of the best.

In the draft we took Ezekiel Elliott who is superior to McFadden and it´s the only position in the NFL which it takes no time to learn in the pros and can make an impact from year 1. We took a back up QB in Prescott that looks like a the real deal. If you say Thornton is a bust because of what you saw in pre-season then with your logic you think Prescott is a MVP QB. We got an good depth CB in Anthony Brown who might start in the future and we still need to see Tapper and Collins in the season. Show me one defensive end or defensive player we could of took that will take this team to a top 10 defense in his first year.

I´ll trust the coaching staff especially Marinelli, I believe in this defense with a T. Crawford and T. McClain, the middle of the line will be disruptive, when you cause pressure from the middle you help the lack of pass rush from the end, just watch and see.

We are a much better team than last year.

We have a bright future with this rookie class and hopefully we get to see a healthy Jaylon Smith.
 

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Bayless is the opposite of Gosselin. He actually is a Cowboys homer.

Yep, except when it comes to Aikman, apparently, lol. At least we know the feeling is mutual. Aikman doesn't seem overly fond of him, either. ;)
 

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There was nothing in free agency to begin with, I would take Frederick extension to overpay DE Vernon like Giants did. We get a healthy Scandrick back. Second year for a very promising David Irving, we singed Thronton which you haven´t seen any game of and still call him a bust. We will get Lawrence back after just 4 games. This defense was ranked around the 15th range last year if I recall correctly, most of the game we lost last year were by one score because our offense couldn´t put up points, not because our defense couldn´t stop opposing teams. The problem last year was not sacks, it was the lack of turnovers which in 2014 we were one of the best.

In the draft we took Ezekiel Elliott who is superior to McFadden and it´s the only position in the NFL which it takes no time to learn in the pros and can make an impact from year 1. We took a back up QB in Prescott that looks like a the real deal. If you say Thornton is a bust because of what you saw in pre-season then with your logic you think Prescott is a MVP QB. We got an good depth CB in Anthony Brown who might start in the future and we still need to see Tapper and Collins in the season. Show me one defensive end or defensive player we could of took that will take this team to a top 10 defense in his first year.

I´ll trust the coaching staff especially Marinelli, I believe in this defense with a T. Crawford and T. McClain, the middle of the line will be disruptive, when you cause pressure from the middle you help the lack of pass rush from the end, just watch and see.

We are a much better team than last year.

We have a bright future with this rookie class and hopefully we get to see a healthy Jaylon Smith.

Not sure about top ten but signing a guy like Ayers or Mario Williams would have stabilized the DE position IMO. Both signed reasonable contracts that would not have prevented us from signing our existing players.
 

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That's the state of today's sports media
It's also the state of today's sports fan, and society in general.

We're deteriorating as people. Integrity is a rare trait these days, and personal conduct and responsibility is not valued like it once was.

Gosselin is just adapting to reality.
 

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There was nothing in free agency to begin with, I would take Frederick extension to overpay DE Vernon like Giants did. We get a healthy Scandrick back. Second year for a very promising David Irving, we singed Thronton which you haven´t seen any game of and still call him a bust. We will get Lawrence back after just 4 games. This defense was ranked around the 15th range last year if I recall correctly, most of the game we lost last year were by one score because our offense couldn´t put up points, not because our defense couldn´t stop opposing teams. The problem last year was not sacks, it was the lack of turnovers which in 2014 we were one of the best.

In the draft we took Ezekiel Elliott who is superior to McFadden and it´s the only position in the NFL which it takes no time to learn in the pros and can make an impact from year 1. We took a back up QB in Prescott that looks like a the real deal. If you say Thornton is a bust because of what you saw in pre-season then with your logic you think Prescott is a MVP QB. We got an good depth CB in Anthony Brown who might start in the future and we still need to see Tapper and Collins in the season. Show me one defensive end or defensive player we could of took that will take this team to a top 10 defense in his first year.

I´ll trust the coaching staff especially Marinelli, I believe in this defense with a T. Crawford and T. McClain, the middle of the line will be disruptive, when you cause pressure from the middle you help the lack of pass rush from the end, just watch and see.

We are a much better team than last year.

We have a bright future with this rookie class and hopefully we get to see a healthy Jaylon Smith.

we singed Thronton which you haven´t seen any game of and still call him a bust....

Actually I did watch all 4 pre-season games. He was horrible. Can't fight off double teams/get off blocks....and was getting pushed around all over the field. So when we get gashed in the running game....Don't be shocked. Just remember where you heard it.;)

I really wished I lived in the glass half full world...or is that the head in the sand guy?:rolleyes:
 

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we singed Thronton which you haven´t seen any game of and still call him a bust....

Actually I did watch all 4 pre-season games. He was horrible. Can't fight off double teams/get off blocks....and was getting pushed around all over the field. So when we get gashed in the running game....Don't be shocked. Just remember where you heard it.;)

I really wished I lived in the glass half full world...or is that the head in the sand guy?:rolleyes:

You completely missed the point though. If you're going to use preseason as your evidence, the Cowboys look like a Super Bowl contender even without Romo.
 

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Never been a great fan since I discovered that his mock draft is comprised of interviews with GMs and he admitted he really doesn't follow college ball.

However, his opinion is nothing more than that and I don't fault any writer for any opinion that I do not share. He's also working in an industry in it's death throes and will do anything to postpone the end. Were is not for the insert business, the DMN would be in deeper trouble as they can't cat back on any more employees. If you have followed the local pubs, you will notice there is always a detractor on board regardless of the season the team is having. That is by design and dates back to the explosive growth in the Metroplex.

There are long time NFL guys that immediately downgrade a team starting a rookie QB because success is, by far, the exception not the rule.
 
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