Grasping for straws: Randy Gregory

[FuzzyLumpkins]

i'm on the internet. i see people talk about it daily. and?

I've heard the primary source talk about using weed for his anxiety. I even linked it.

You read bitter about something else and projecting.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

If Gregory found a doctor who would go on record saying weed is the best treatment for his anxiety, then....

1. He would have a prescription for it
2. With the approved medical prescription, he wouldn't be tested for it by the NFL

However, neither is the case, as far as I know.

No, the NFL has no such policy for players from Denver, DC, Seattle, SF, LA, etc. It remains on the banned substance list.

 

[jaybird]

Dude. He doesn't have an "act."

He has an illness that for most of his life he's treated with weed.

I'm sick of people on this board treating mental illness like it is some character flaw. Get educated.

I didn't know he had "mental illness"
Poor baby
Give me a break

 

[fortdick]

Weed helps alot of my friends with PTSD. Its not for me, but if it helps them better then seroquel then so be it

Anecdotal. No scientific proof. Weed cures cancer! Weed cures PTSD! Weed cures everything! If you want an X use to get high, you keep repeating this. But that doesn't make it true.

 

[fortdick]

I didn't know he had "mental illness"
Poor baby
Give me a break

It is an excuse for irresponsible behavior and people encourage it by repeating the lame excuses. It is pure selfishness. That is a personality disorder, not a mental illness.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Anecdotal. No scientific proof. Weed cures cancer! Weed cures PTSD! Weed cures everything! If you want an X use to get high, you keep repeating this. But that doesn't make it true.

The reason why there is no proof is because the DEA and similar organizations handle research licensing and choose who is allowed to study the plant using confirmation bias.

In 1999, in response to California medical legalization, the Institute of Medicine found that marijuana had medical uses and a relatively low potential for abuse, leading to another round of petitioning. The DEA denied a petition again in 2011, citing a lack of available research specifically on smoked marijuana in the U.S.

Researchers say this represents a classic catch-22, as the paucity of research is the direct result of a federal blockade on such research by the DEA and the National Institute on Drug Abuse (NIDA). “The reason we don’t have more data is because it’s quite difficult to study. The only legal source of cannabis is NIDA, which has a Congressional mandate to only study its harms,” Abrams says. Researchers also note that about two dozen countries including Israel, Canada and the Netherlands as well as several legalization states such as California and Colorado, have reams of scientific data on the safety and efficacy of smoked cannabis as well as other formulations. While NIDA’s primary work focuses largely on studies involving drug abuse and addiction, the organization does fund some research on therapeutic uses for THC as well.*

Many physicians are also frustrated by the DEA’s apparent intransigence in the face of mounting evidence and interest. In 2009 the American Medical Association recommended the DEA review marijuana’s Schedule I status. And a 2014 Medscape survey of roughly 1,500 doctors found 56 percent supported legalizing medical cannabis nationally, with 82 percent support among responding oncologists. “If physicians are in support of cannabis as a medicine, why is it not medicine?” Abrams asks.

http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/the-science-behind-the-dea-s-long-war-on-marijuana/

Talk about lame excuses.

 

[silver]

Randy who? He was a non-factor in the 12 games he played last year. I'm not counting on this dope.

 

[jrumann59]

I saw straws and gregory and though he picked up another habit.

 

[Kaiser]

Anecdotal. No scientific proof. Weed cures cancer! Weed cures PTSD! Weed cures everything! If you want an X use to get high, you keep repeating this. But that doesn't make it true.

Always carry a flagon of whiskey in case of snakebite and furthermore always carry a small snake.

W. C. Fields

 

[Kaiser]

The reason why there is no proof is because the DEA and similar organizations handle research licensing and choose who is allowed to study the plant using confirmation bias.

THC is federally approved in areas like pain relief and spasticity in MS -

http://www.gwpharm.com/Sativex.aspx

The issue in this thread is whether its effective for treating Bipolor Disorder and Ive never seen anything approved or not that it does. If Gregory is claiming he is treating anxiety there are dozens of approved medications and he is obviously violating NFL policy.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

THC is federally approved in areas like pain relief and spasticity in MS -

http://www.gwpharm.com/Sativex.aspx

The issue in this thread is whether its effective for treating Bipolor Disorder and Ive never seen anything approved or not that it does. If Gregory is claiming he is treating anxiety there are dozens of approved medications and he is obviously violating NFL policy.

Synthetic sure. Natural? Nope.

 

[StarBoyz83]

Funny how most people here that are hating on Gregory love dlaw lol. Hmmmm...

 

[Tabascocat]

Funny how most people here that are hating on Gregory love dlaw lol. Hmmmm...

I like Gregory more than Lawrence

 

[Falco78]

Even if he does stop failing drug test . Can he get bigger and stronger and not get stoned at the line of scrimmage?

He looked decent in a few early games, there was definitely some potential there.

 

[Nightman]

Funny how most people here that are hating on Gregory love dlaw lol. Hmmmm...

DLawrence had one failed PED test and it was a questionable usage of Adderall, I think and it was almost over-turned....he also had 8 sacks last year

RGregory has yet to get to the QB and has almost as many failed drug tests for weed as he has tackles.....4 to 7

 

[iceberg]

Funny how most people here that are hating on Gregory love dlaw lol. Hmmmm...

amazing how people in here lob out useless info in order to do whatever it is they're out to do. one has nothing to do with the other.

 

[Idgit]

It's a weird phenomenon on message boards how things get polarized that don't really need to be polarizing. We took a chance on a guy who had what appears to be a legitimate medical condition and who happens to be treating or at least using in-parallel a banned substance. Whether he uses because of a medical condition, an chemical imbalance (eg, mania/depression) or because he's just irresponsible is academic. It only comes into play if we're talking about how best to treat it if he remains on the roster.

It doesn't change the fact that we took a chance on a troubled player with a premium pick. And it doesn't much matter what the causes are of him not being on the field if he can't stay on the field. As a human, I have sympathy if it's a medical issue. None if it's not. And I have no way of knowing which is which. Either way, I don't count on the guy, and we'd have been better off using that pick on a lesser talent whod've been able to stay on the field where we need him.

 

[StarBoyz83]

DLawrence had one failed PED test and it was a questionable usage of Adderall, I think and it was almost over-turned....he also had 8 sacks last year

RGregory has yet to get to the QB and has almost as many failed drug tests for weed as he has tackles.....4 to 7

He did nothing his rookie year and had a good half year last year.

 

[fortdick]

THC is federally approved in areas like pain relief and spasticity in MS -

http://www.gwpharm.com/Sativex.aspx

The issue in this thread is whether its effective for treating Bipolor Disorder and Ive never seen anything approved or not that it does. If Gregory is claiming he is treating anxiety there are dozens of approved medications and he is obviously violating NFL policy.

Not true. It is licensed in the US, but not approved. Per FDA, the is no nationally approved medical use for marijuana, although some states have approved it.

http://www.fda.gov/NewsEvents/PublicHealthFocus/ucm421163.htm

 

[Kaiser]

Not true. It is licensed in the US, but not approved. Per FDA, the is no nationally approved medical use for marijuana, although some states have approved it.

http://www.fda.gov/NewsEvents/PublicHealthFocus/ucm421163.htm

I know what you are saying but the link says they have approved THC (synthetic) but not marijuana. Medically that's a distinction without a difference, except that with "natural" marijuana you can't control dosing (or measure it very well). It would be like the FDA saying you can take Codeine or you can take opium - but the natural opium you take could be 1 dose or 20 doses, who knows. The FDA can not and should not approve something where the dosing has that kind of variance.

Going back to the original point of this thread, I think we both agree that Randy Gregory isn't aware of these issues.