Grasping for straws: Randy Gregory

[AbeBeta]

Gregory had absolute access to mental health and support from his family, Randy has an immaturity problem as per his own words.

Right. You know exactly how the team supported him.

 

[zrinkill]

I've already addressed this. You are a good minion. I'll give you that.

The only minion I see around here is you .......

Arguing for these moronic millionaires who sign a contract and then say "hey its not fair, I'm depressed, I need this pot to cope."

Give me a break ........ keep making the excuses.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

The only minion I see around here is you .......

Arguing for these moronic millionaires who sign a contract and then say "hey its not fair, I'm depressed, I need this pot to cope."

Give me a break ........ keep making the excuses.

I'm saying the rule should change because it benefits no one. You should stick to speaking for yourself as your strawmen indicate you suck at speaking for others.

 

[AbeBeta]

Making assumptions of your own huh?



Only when the fruit of the painting is to stupid too put down the bong.

Ro has no history of diagnosis. But that doesn't matter, right?

 

[Rogerthat12]

The two notions are not mutually exclusive. It sounds like he didn't really think through how to deal with his anxiety issues. If the solution was to give him bennies and roofies then I can only shake my head on how broken the system is.

Apparently, Randy and his family have publically stated his problem is not just with weed but in decision making and maturity with reference to his continued abuse.

We have zero verified knowledge that Randy has any clinical diagnosis of mental illness.

If he does, we all know Randy has access to the absolute best professional care with family support.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Apparently, Randy and his family have publically stated his problem is not just with weed but in decision making and maturity with reference to his continued abuse.

We have zero verified knowledge that Randy has any clinical diagnosis of mental illness.

If he does, we all know Randy has access to the absolute best professional care with family support.

I've heard him talk about his anxiety.

 

[Rogerthat12]

Right. You know exactly how the team supported him.

The team would never get him the help he needs if he has a mental illness...LOL!

 

[Rogerthat12]

I've heard him talk about his anxiety.

Many people have anxiety without it be clinically significant.

Randy called it poor decision making and immaturity when pushed on the subject.

 

[Manwiththeplan]

Put me in the, I'll care, depending on when he gets his first sack #preseasondoesnotcount

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Many people have anxiety without it be clinically significant.

Randy called it poor decision making and immaturity when pushed on the subject.

Gregory said he first smoked marijuana after graduating from Hamilton Southeastern High School in Fishers, Ind., and before enrolling at Arizona Western Community College in 2011. He had failed to qualify academically at Purdue, which represented a considerable disappointment to him, and Gregory said he turned to marijuana to cope with the anxiety.

"At the end of the day, it was my fault. I was being selfish. I was being stubborn. I felt like I could do things my way and it would work. And it didn't work."

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap30...blame-myself-for-failed-nfl-combine-drug-test

Again it's not one or the other but a bit of both. If it wasn't for the rule, then maturity would not have been an issue.

 

[AbeBeta]

The team would never get him the help he needs if he has a mental illness...LOL!

Well, clearly they didn't.

They treated this like many of you dumb #$%&@ and thought he was just a dumb kid who liked weed rather than someone who used to address his disorder.

 

[Rogerthat12]

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap30...blame-myself-for-failed-nfl-combine-drug-test

Again it's not one or the other but a bit of both. If it wasn't for the rule, then maturity would not have been an issue.

Actually, we do not know that Randy has mental illness or that the anxiety indicated was clinically significant, it could be a lame excuse to underwrite the poor decision making.

Many who use illegal drugs or banned substances formulate an underlying cause to underwrite and justify the behavior!

The rule is indeed in place in the NFL and therefore applies to Randy Gregory who willingly chooses to play in the league and abide by said rules.

We do know that he has expressed that his problem is ultimately due to immaturity and irresponsibility while making a character comment with respect to the matter in the quote below.

Regardless, there are professional treatments for clinical anxiety and "drug use" like pot can actually make clinical anxiety disorders even worse and Randy is fully aware it is a banned substance under current rules.


"That's something I've definitely been working on and something I can definitely fix," Gregory told ESPN Radio last Friday (via The Dallas Morning News). "I'm 22 years old but I think I carry myself real well and I think I need to carry myself a little bit better as far as decision-making goes.

"I think a lot of people are getting tied up in the weed and think it's just a weed problem. I don't think it's a weed problem. I think it's decision making. I think I'm immature. I'm definitely working on that. I want to prove everyone wrong and I want to do it with this team. I think this is the best team I can do that with."

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap30...dy-gregory-problem-is-decisionmaking-not-weed

"We should be able to take it upon ourselves and to have enough character to not do it. At the time, I did not. I really didn't."

"At the end of the day, it was my fault. I was being selfish. I was being stubborn. I felt like I could do things my way and it would work. And it didn't work."

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap30...blame-myself-for-failed-nfl-combine-drug-test

 

[Rogerthat12]

Well, clearly they didn't.

They treated this like many of you dumb #$%&@ and thought he was just a dumb kid who liked weed rather than someone who used to address his disorder.

First, your use of Ad Hominem attacks (attacking the man, insults) demonstrate a poor use of logic, it is a logical fallacy.

You have no proof of a mental disorder clinically speaking, another logical fallacy.

Third, while insulting people you actually spelled "ignorant" wrong in post # 26, which also is a logical fallacy.

Folks on this board are igorant.

 

[AbeBeta]

First, your use of Ad Hominem attacks (attacking the man, insults) demonstrate a poor use of logic, it is a logical fallacy.

You have no proof of a mental disorder clinically speaking, another logical fallacy.

Yeah, save for repeated reports of either bipolar or social anxiety disorder (more likely the latter).

But hey, way to look up ad hominem and use it in a sentence. Now look up irony.

 

[Rogerthat12]

Yeah, save for repeated reports of either bipolar or social anxiety disorder (more likely the latter).

But hey, way to look up ad hominem and use it in a sentence. Now look up irony.

You have absolutely zero verification of a clinical diagnosis of mental illness with regard to Gregory, simply assumption.

Ad Hominem is a basic informal logical fallacy, you have it mastered.

Folks on this board are igorant.

 

[AbeBeta]

You have absolutely zero verification of a clinical diagnosis of mental illness with regard to Gregory, simply assumption.

Ad Hominem is a basic informal logical fallacy, you have it mastered.

Please. Many reports of his illness. Stop being ignorant. Here's two. Please ironically attack me.

http://sportsday.***BANNED-URL***/d...cusing-randy-gregory-of-having-poor-character



http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...-there-are-mental-health-issues-with-gregory/

 

[CCBoy]

For a professional football player, issues of heart are a relevant matter...

 

[Rogerthat12]

Please. Many reports of his illness. Stop being ignorant. Here's two. Please ironically attack me.

http://sportsday.***BANNED-URL***/d...cusing-randy-gregory-of-having-poor-character



http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...-there-are-mental-health-issues-with-gregory/

An unnamed source and still zero verification of a clinical diagnosis from Gregory, more assumption by those in the media but nothing concrete.

"Igorant" language from you again, more logical fallacies!

Folks on this board are igorant.

You are the one who attacks people, not me!

"That's something I've definitely been working on and something I can definitely fix," Gregory told ESPN Radio last Friday (via The Dallas Morning News). "I'm 22 years old but I think I carry myself real well and I think I need to carry myself a little bit better as far as decision-making goes.

"I think a lot of people are getting tied up in the weed and think it's just a weed problem. I don't think it's a weed problem. I think it's decision making. I think I'm immature. I'm definitely working on that. I want to prove everyone wrong and I want to do it with this team. I think this is the best team I can do that with."

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap30...dy-gregory-problem-is-decisionmaking-not-weed

"We should be able to take it upon ourselves and to have enough character to not do it. At the time, I did not. I really didn't."
"At the end of the day, it was my fault. I was being selfish. I was being stubborn. I felt like I could do things my way and it would work. And it didn't work."
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap30...blame-myself-for-failed-nfl-combine-drug-test

 

[zrinkill]

Ro has no history of diagnosis. But that doesn't matter, right?

Neither does Gregory ...... except for the people who are trying to defend his behavior.

 

[zrinkill]

I'm saying the rule should change because it benefits no one.

Again ....... the players themselves are the ones who put this rule in place through their representation (who they voted in)

You can rail and rail about how the rule needs to change ........ but it does not change the fact that the players signed the contracts knowing this rule is there and somehow you think its unfair when they are punished for breaking it over and over again.