Twitter: Great play by Wilson

Discussion in 'Fan Zone' started by Rockport, Jun 17, 2021.

  1. Bullflop

    Bullflop Well-Known Member

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    Donovan Wilson is a hitter, through and through!

    That fumble recovery was just icing on the cake.

    Something tells me that we best hang onto him!
     
  2. stasheroo

    stasheroo Well-Known Member

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    I am. They’re my pick to win that division.
     
  3. davidyee

    davidyee Maple Leaf

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    I agree with your take, but often players need to play their assignments correctly and put themselves in a good place for a positive outcome.

    99 times out of 100 the QB either tosses the ball away or takes a sack without being stripped. But Wilson made a great decision to force Wentz to do something, he closed the gap like a banshee and Wentz imploded with poor decision making and poor ball security.

    None of the Wentz errors would have amounted to anything if Wilson hadn't relaized the situation and made a great athletic play.

    Kudos to Wilson and jeers to Wentz.
     
  4. rocyaice

    rocyaice Well-Known Member

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    Colts made the playoffs...I'm no debating if its a Super Bowl winning offense....

    I'm saying they have good tight ends, very good running game and good receivers. There's no excuses for him. This is the best offense for him.

    And if you'd rank that group 25th....that's because you don't project Pittman and Campbell can't get better. I was really impressed with Pittman his rookie season.
     
  5. rocyaice

    rocyaice Well-Known Member

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    You got them over the Titans huh?
     
  6. jrumann59

    jrumann59 Well-Known Member

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    You mean that offensive PI.
     
  7. stasheroo

    stasheroo Well-Known Member

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    I do yes. But it’s just one man’s opinion.
     
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  8. Zekeats

    Zekeats theranchsucks

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    For those of you who say this guy is a boarder line stater I feel sorry for you. You don’t watch the games and you don’t have any clue about this guys closing burst. All he has done is make plays when he’s played pre season or regular this guys a playmaker
     
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  9. Rockport

    Rockport AmberBeer Zone Supporter

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    Some of our fans will take any opportunity they can to crap on Cowboys players.
     
  10. Future

    Future Intramural Legend

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    I like Pittman and Campbell but Pittman would have to make a huge jump to be anything resembling a #1. This receiving corps is probably comparable to the Texans. I don't know what you like about Doyle and Alie-Cox, they're good blockers but nothing special at receiver.

    If you take TY, Pittman and Campbell as your top 3, 25th I think is generous. In the NFC, the only teams they'd be better than are, Detroit, Chicago, WFT and maybe Philly, and in the AFC it's like Houston, Jax, NYJ, NE. Those groups are all pretty pathetic, but I don't think they're all worse than Indy. So call them 24th if you want lol, but it's still a pretty poor group.
     
  11. nalam

    nalam The realist

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    What the heck he was doing half speed , he was not covering neither attacking QB ? sigh !!
     
  12. nalam

    nalam The realist

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    After a couple of plays everyone will know #9 is the old 54 , LOL !
     
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  13. OmerV

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    And attacking QB's instead of laying back is what a good defense should do. It actually is possible for a defense to make a good play and the QB to make a bad decision. Those things are not mutually exclusive.

    And yes, good QB's do make good decisions most of the time, but of course they are not immune from mistakes, and this comment doesn't change in the least the fact a QB, even a good QB, is more likely to make a mistake when the defense does a good job defending him and/or defending the play.

    Besides, even if Wentz had thrown it away it was still a good play for the defense because the Eagles would have used a down without gaining any yards. And even if he had tucked the ball away so he didn't fumble it still would have been a good play for the defense because they would have used a down and lost yardage. There is nothing that Wentz could have done to make a positive play for his team, so the defense actually did do a good job.
     
  14. Future

    Future Intramural Legend

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    No they are not exclusive, but there is not necessarily cause and effect. Donovan Wilson did not make Wentz decide to not throw the ball away.
     
  15. DeaconMoss

    DeaconMoss Well-Known Member

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    I agree. But DG saw Wentz running so he started blocking. Wentz never crossed the LOS. So I guess you could call that OPI. But you will never get that call and 54 should not get decleated on a hand check. If Wentz runs 1 yard behind the LOS horizontally across the whole field and a WR throws a block, is it OPI?
     
  16. FuzzyLumpkins

    FuzzyLumpkins The Boognish

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    You should try more nuance. You present a false choice. It can be both. Good defenders take advantage of bad offense.
     
  17. OmerV

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    He actually was covering. It was Dallas Goedart that hit him while running a route. Goedert was an eligible receiver.

    If you watch, Jaylon was starting to come up to help in case Wentz ran, but then Goedart released late from the line of scrimmage to provide a target for Wentz, and Jaylon veered to go with Goedert. Watch Goedert immediately after pushing Jaylon - he turns to look for the ball. Had WEntz then thrown the ball to Goedert then Goedert would (or should) have been flagged for pushing off. Jaylon, on the other hand, couldn't couldn't have initiated contact on Goedert without it being a penalty.
     
  18. Future

    Future Intramural Legend

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    I care about causality, that is what wins games.
     
  19. OmerV

    OmerV Zone Supporter

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    Watch Goedert - after pushing Jaylon he immediately turned toward Wentz to look for a throw. He knew he was an eligible receiver.

    But it wouldn't matter even if Goedert thought of himself as a blocker, because it wouldn't change the fact he was an eligible receiver, and had to be treated by the defense as such.

    And as such, Jaylon could not hit him without it being a penalty. Any defender in that situation could be easily knocked down because they aren't able to deliver a hit, and because they aren't expecting an eligible receiver to go after them they aren't braced for an impact.
     
  20. rocyaice

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    I mean I really don't care about "rankings" lol. Do I have good receivers who don't drop the football and catch? That's all I need. Rankings aren't based on actual skill its based on how they produce with their quarterback....nobody cared last year that the Mavs had a top receiving group when they had Dalton and Dinucci throwing to them. If Wentz is on his game and plays like he did in 2017 then the "rankings" will be better. But when I watched the Colts last year I liked what I saw. Not the most exciting offense and they aren't going to put up a bunch of fantasy points but I saw Pittman make some big plays and Hilton was the security blanket.

    Pittman and Hilton are much better than anything he's had in Philly in awhile.
     

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