Greg Ellis Expendable?

[zrinkill]

Brilliant- trade away someone for a future pick that is not all that great and put someone that HE BEAT OUT in his place. Really sharp. I think this guy is a skins fan.

Skins would never trade for a draft pick .... they would trade Ellis for someones 3rd string reciever.

 

[Future]

Brilliant- trade away someone for a future pick that is not all that great and put someone that HE BEAT OUT in his place. Really sharp. I think this guy is a skins fan.

elliss isnt gonna be there a whole lot longer anyways...and I didnt say put only carp there. i said burnett, singleton, carp. From what I was able to pick up on yesterday anyways burnett outplayed Elliss

 

[The30YardSlant]

elliss isnt gonna be there a whole lot longer anyways...and I didnt say put only carp there. i said burnett, singleton, carp. From what I was able to pick up on yesterday anyways burnett outplayed Elliss

Did you watch the game? If not, allow me to educate you:

Ellis: 4 solo tackles, 1 assist, 1 sack (They gave it to Canty, but Ellis hit him, Canty just fell on top of him), 1 FF

Burnett: 2 solo tackles, 3 assists, 1 sack (In garbage time)

 

[Eskimo]

I do understand the initial poster's POV here - he thinks there are better, younger players on the roster that are being held back by Ellis. Furthermore, trading Ellis could yield assets to help fill holes at another position of weakness on the roster - OL, NT, young WR...

However, it is uncertain whether the players he mentioned would represent an upgrade over Ellis. What is certain is that Ellis is playing well in his current role and has yet to be exposed as a converted DE - this may be due to scheme or due to him having better mobility than expected or a combination of the two. Until Ellis' potential weakness in coverage is exposed, he is providing a good pass rush and is forcing the run well to the outside.

I know some anticipate Ellis being a goner next year but he is still a productive pass rusher who has a reasonable contract so I doubt he is going anywhere unless we have a repeat performance of last offseason. So long as he is a starter at OLB and playing nickel snaps he will be content.

 

[The30YardSlant]

I do understand the initial poster's POV here - he thinks there are better, younger players on the roster that are being held back by Ellis. Furthermore, trading Ellis could yield assets to help fill holes at another position of weakness on the roster - OL, NT, young WR...

However, it is uncertain whether the players he mentioned would represent an upgrade over Ellis. What is certain is that Ellis is playing well in his current role and has yet to be exposed as a converted DE - this may be due to scheme or due to him having better mobility than expected or a combination of the two. Until Ellis' potential weakness in coverage is exposed, he is providing a good pass rush and is forcing the run well to the outside.

I know some anticipate Ellis being a goner next year but he is still a productive pass rusher who has a reasonable contract so I doubt he is going anywhere unless we have a repeat performance of last offseason. So long as he is a starter at OLB and playing nickel snaps he will be content.

We are in the win now mode. Ellis is the best player right now, therefore gives us the best chance to win.

 

[JonCJG]

We are in the win now mode. Ellis is the best player right now, therefore gives us the best chance to win.

HH isn't about time to put that sig pic to bed?

 

[cowboyfan4life_mark]

If Ellis is indeed keeping Carpenter off the field, which seems unlikely since they aren't playing the same position, then it's because Ellis is better.

Why would one trade the better player in order to play the more inferior player?

In addition, no one is keeping Carpenter off the field but Carpenter himself...if he were the top backup at any of the LB positions, he'd at least be dressed for the games.

Right now he's no better than 3rd string, imo.

And that's all that needs to be said.

 

[goons]

Personally, I think they should leave Ellis where he is, trade Carpenter to Tennesse for their 1st round pick next year, and trade Terry Glenn to Tampa for 2 1st round picks so they can get Myles Austin on the field.

 

[TheNatureBoy]

I'm not reading all these pages but Greg Ellis is on a mission

 

[tomson75]

I'm not reading all these pages but Greg Ellis is on a mission

all 3 1/2 pages?

 

[LD Fan]

We are in the win now mode. Ellis is the best player right now, therefore gives us the best chance to win.

This post makes more sense than most you said on here. Is there some reason you can't just make valid points like this without attacking an opinion? Or is that just your Napoleanic complex speaking?

 

[Clove]

Nearly every player is tradable. If Parcells thinks someone on the roster is better, then pull the trigger. I'm all about resluts, and fortunately, Ellis has been giving us results, except consistant pressure on the QB, but who's giving us consistant pressure anyways?

Burnett, if he continues to put consistant pressure on the QB like he did Sunday, then I start by pulling Ellis from the nickel and let Burnett get after the QB.

 

[Hostile]

More and more really stupid threads are appearing on this board.

With even worse responses in them.

 

[Dale]

I'm of the "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" mentality on this issue.

We have a rotation that seems to be working well on defense. Why mess with it? There's no reason to unload Ellis unless we were offered a trade we simply could not turn down.

Now, if such a trade were offered, I would surely hope the Cowboys would consider it -- regardless of whether it's for Ellis or someone else.

But, to be honest, I don't see many glaring holes on this team right now. What could we get in return that would be of any value? I just don't see some extra lineman, receiver, etc. making a big difference for us.

 

[ATurkishSeaOtter]

elliss isnt gonna be there a whole lot longer anyways...and I didnt say put only carp there. i said burnett, singleton, carp. From what I was able to pick up on yesterday anyways burnett outplayed Elliss

When at least two of the guys you mentioned can beat him out for the starting spot and he drops to third string then talk about it. Lets not trade away someone that is making huge plays for the team.

 

[ratpower]

Do you think Greg Elliss is expendable for a trade. I really haven't noticed him being particularly great at OLB, and he is keeping Bobby Carpenter off of the field. And with Burnett playing real well yesterday, and the depth of Singleton who also had a couple of good plays, I think we are good at OLB. Burnett apparently can rush the passer as he had 2 sacks, and Carp should be ok at rushing. I think we would be better off with those two, providing more athleticism and speed.

So could we trade ellis?

thoughts?

uhh, watch the games. Ellis is playing like he always has...outstanding.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

Singleton = An average backup

he's more than that on most teams, esp. those that run a 4-3

 

[Idgit]

He's an incredible bright spot this year so far, despite my haranguing of him this entire off season for his whining. I was wrong. He's playing great.

You weren't wrong to harangue the guy for whining. He deserved every bit of it.

It may make give some perspective to see that he was probably just overeacting to being out of control of his situation, but it was still ungrateful to the organization.

Ellis has been about as good as Ware this year. He's not going anywhere for a long, long time.

 

[cwalk]

I believe he leads us in sacks so far this year, why would we get rid of him?

THAT AIN'T SAYIN MUCH WITH 1.5 SACKS!

 

[ConstantReboot]

No ways do I want Ellis to be traded. I don't think Bill wants to trade him as well. His one of our leaders on defense and seems to make big plays. I like Ellis.

I also like Burnett coming off the bench in relief. I think he provides another demension to a very deep linebacker crew.

If by chance one of our opponents finds a way to expose Ellis than Burnett or Singleton would be able to counter that threat.

Lets stick to whats working. Ellis at linebacker is working out and providing us with some unexpected surprise at his position.