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Hostile;4430079 said:I firmly believe Cleveland ends up with him at the #2 spot.
I agree, unless Danny boy does a Ricky Williams trade.
Hostile;4430079 said:I firmly believe Cleveland ends up with him at the #2 spot.
Hostile;4430079 said:I firmly believe Cleveland ends up with him at the #2 spot.
Hostile;4430079 said:I firmly believe Cleveland ends up with him at the #2 spot.
Risen Star;4429842 said:He ran an unofficial 4.41 and 4.38 40 this morning. If that 4.38 holds up it will be the fastest ever for a QB.
Deep_Freeze;4430113 said:Yeah, with 2 first rounders this year, the Browns have to be in the lead for him and it would be surprising if they don't end up with him.
cobra;4430083 said:Someone who runs a gimmick college spread offense does not translate into the NFL.
He doesn't have good size. He just avoided having terrible size. Strong arm and fast, yes. But it was a gimmick offense that caused his passing numbers. If you think his passing performance is elite, then you should want to draft Case Keenum because whatever you can point to as a passer production and skill set, Case can surpass Griffin.
I think Griffin deserves to be the second drafted QB. But what I can't stand is people acting like he in the same class as Luck or a better prospect than Luck because he ran a gimmick offense.
Any team drafting Griffin has to admit that he is being drafted as dual threat. There's no shame against admitting that. It's betting against history as far as success goes, but it is reasonable risk. What is silly is the attempt to argue that he is being drafted as a pure pocket passer when he never ran a pro offense.
cobra;4430016 said:Yes, yes you are.
(Assuming you are drafting for a NFL team running an NFL offense with the goal of winning Super Bowls. If you are instead drafting a track team, or to sell jerseys or have a QB with lots of endorsements deal, then you might be on to something.)
The30YardSlant;4430413 said:He has an excellent chance of turning into a star QB in the NFL. That being said I still question his durability, or more accurately his ability to respond after taking a hit. He has a habit of going into a shell after a couple good licks.
Was there any reason to bring race into an otherwise good post ? I have not read a post that questioned how smart he is due to his skin color .SkinsHokieFan;4430186 said:What on earth are you arguing with me about? Reading comprehension is not your strong suit is it?
I feel the same way as you do, I would never take RG3 over Luck, I'd go Ricky Williams and get Luck if I am in charge.
Luck to me translates to a mobile Peyton Manning (he simply doesn't have the super gun of an arm to be John Elway)
RG3 looks and feels like Steve Young, a mobile dual threat who can run but is pass first and will take longer to hit his NFL stride. His best days as a passer won't be in year 1, 2 or 3. It'll be well beyond that.
Luck's issue, which I hate for him, is he is going to head to the 1989 version of the Dallas Cowboys, a team that is about to gut itself and have nothing but young players, changing systems completely, a rookie head coach, rookie GM, and unable to do much in FA this coming season. And they won't have a Hersel Walker trade to help them
RG3's issue will be how he adjusts to an NFL scheme. If he was white, we would be talking about how smart he is since he is a Baylor grad and has the option for law school. Sort of like how people were describing Sam Bradford as incredibly intelligent 2 years ago.
Both these kids I am excited about. Skill set wise, talent wise, moxie wise and character wise
I don't care about Cleveland winning. I care about Washington not getting a QB to build around.Dmoore Esq;4430109 said:Living in Cleveland, and being forced to watch them on Sunday, I hope they sign Matt Flynn. I'd love for them to get Griffen, but Flynn probably gives you a better chance to win next season and you probably won't have to give up any picks for him.
Hostile;4430079 said:I firmly believe Cleveland ends up with him at the #2 spot.