Hardy charges officially expunged

[JoeKing]

http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2015/10...ys-ben-roethlisberger-steelers-sexual-assault

Thank you @KJJ I was wrong about Terry. So make a note to self... mrtxstar admits when he can be proven wrong.

 

[zrinkill]

You just described about 45 percent of the NFL.

So you have no answer?

 

[Sydla]

Brady was infinitely guilty of cheating the game, just as the Patriots were infinitely guilty of numerous other cheating methods, and it takes a special kind of loser not to admit it.

(What kind of pathetic trash lurks around a message board of a team they don't like day after day with nothing else in life to do? Get a girlfriend or something, if that's even possible.)

There is so much wrong with this girl's story, it's hard to know where to begin. She claims she was choked, yet there's no marks supporting that, which is impossible. She wouldn't leave when he asked her to, which was proven. The argument was about him not paying her rent, for crying out loud. And she was lit up on cocaine while this happened. She had a history of similar claims and situations with other men. It's an ugly situation ALL the way around.

I do think he hit her, but she would hardly be the first girl to throw herself down a flight of stairs to claim violence. That happens routinely if you talk to a cop.

The guy is like so many others in the NFL. Fatherless men who grow up with no respect at all for women because they've witnessed DV their whole lives. It's an accepted culture. That's just the way it is for them.

But suspensions have been served. The court case is over. The record has been expunged.

And now the media lights this up again. Never mind the rapist and the dog killer in Pittsburgh. Never mind the murderer on the Thursday night pregame show. Never mind the multiple offender in Oakland that used to play in Pittsburgh. Never mind the child abuser with 90 kids in Minnesota.

Never mind all them.

It's all about Dez, Hardy, and Randle. It's all about the star.

No offense but anyone who tries to equate Brady and what went on here has no credibility.

Look, defend Hardy all you want, but some of the comparisons and analogies people are coming up with don't actually help their case, they actually just solidify how freaking wacky one is being.

 

[PA Cowboy Fan]

He'll have to agree to a contract that protects the team in case he gets in trouble again. If he demands a lot of guaranteed money he won't get it. It's anyone's guess how well liked he is in the locker room. He's a great player but carries a high risk of starting trouble.

The team has to protect itself. I don't think he'll get many other offers.

 

[GroundZero1970]

You just described about 45 percent of the NFL.

Not only that but its not up to us to draw the line. You dont like it pick a new team. If he put hands on my family the law deals with it and if they dont then i do. I root for the Dallas cowboys, last time I checked Hardy was a Cowboy

 

[dogberry]

Did the judge seal the pictures?

If the photographs were restricted, will the court investigate the breach?

 

[BoysfanfromCanada]

Am I a POS for saying I don't care all that much? I mean, it doesn't effect me in any way, and I don't care to look at the photos. It's not like he's a horrible influence to me and I'm just going to start hitting my fiance or sisters all of a sudden. He's a football player who plays (well) for my team, that's all I need from him. If he was to do something like this again in a Dallas uniform, then yeah, he'd be a headcase and you'd have to get rid of him and he would lose his chance to play in this league most likely. But the cops saw it and were willing to let it go, the NFL saw it and were willing to suspend him for 10 days and let it go, and the Cowboys knew about it and were willing to sign and extend him. Beyond that I just don't care. The crybabies on twitter and social media are 1) people who don't watch football and never were planning on watching anyway, and 2) rival fans who would love to have Hardy on their team, no matter what they say.

He's an idiot if he hit her unprovoked, but everyone makes mistakes. Just don't ever do it again, and people will forget in about a year.

I probably am a POS, but 'meh'.

 

[erod]

So you have no answer?

What answer? Sheesh, you are just awful at this.

 

[Sasquatch]

Right and to have pictures that back it up. As a guy that has a wife and two daughters Im concerned at the amount of flat out denseness here when it comes to making excuses for this.

I'm sure it's quite repugnant but not really shocking given the rampant adolescent male sexism of this board.

 

[DandyDon1722]

So if you're being attacked you would just take it?

He HAD to defend himself.

I mean hell who is to say she didn't throw herself on the bathtub so she could make it look like he violently attacked her?

This is the problem with today's day and age. Only females can be the victim. A man can be the one attacked and if he tries to defend himself he's gonna get vilified as the bad guy.

It's just sexist and really disgraceful. I have no doubt there is a lot of actual female victims out there, but it's not like there aren't male victims as well. Hardy is in that mold imo.

No excuses and no defending of Hardy - just some facts of the case. The thing I would like to see is something being reported on the Charlotte legal scene and why they concluded he was never going to be found guilty by a trial.

Also, I get the outrage but let's not forget the Duke Lacrosse case which seemed like such low hanging fruit at the time. In the climate that we are in I think if you even tried to refute what might have happened you would get killed in the media, yet that's what journalism is supposed to be.

Again - just some facts.

1. Curtis (Ms. Holder's friend who was there) and Hardy both testified that she threw herself into his tile bathtub after he refused to pay her rent.

2. Curtis who went with Ms. Holder to collect the rent is no longer her friend, and has never supported any of her claims.

3. In the 911 call made by Hardy. Ms. Holder was being restrained by Curtis to keep her away from him. In the call he said she threw a shoe at him. Police first encountered her with only 1 shoe. In the call Hardy said she threw a glass at him. Police found a broken glass in his apartment. In the call Hardy said he was bleeding. The police report says he was bleeding from his cheek.

4. Ms. Holder admitted on the stand that she had done cocaine earlier before going there. Curtis had testified that Ms. Holder told her that Greg "hasn't seen crazy yet."

5. Hardy called 911 twice to get help with her.

6. Finally - the DA concluded they “did not have sufficient legal basis” to enter Ms. Holder's statements to police as evidence.

These are just a few facts.

 

[erod]

No offense but anyone who tries to equate Brady and what went on here has no credibility.

Look, defend Hardy all you want, but some of the comparisons and analogies people are coming up with don't actually help their case, they actually just solidify how freaking wacky one is being.

I fully realize that, but this blowhard loves to poke his little Patriot head up for whack-a-loser every time a story like this breaks.

He got owned worse than anybody I've ever seen on the internet during the Brady thing, so I just wanted to get a couple shots in before he wanders off to the Jets or Bills sites.

 

[MRV52]

The pictures released showing the injures are very disturbing. I hope Hardy can learn from this, and to never lay a hand on a women again.

 

[zrinkill]

Not only that but its not up to us to draw the line.

So not enough guts to say you would be ok with anything as long as he is good.

 

[JoeKing]

Am I a POS for saying I don't care all that much? I mean, it doesn't effect me in any way, and I don't care to look at the photos. It's not like he's a horrible influence to me and I'm just going to start hitting my fiance or sisters all of a sudden. He's a football player who plays (well) for my team, that's all I need from him. If he was to do something like this again in a Dallas uniform, then yeah, he'd be a headcase and you'd have to get rid of him and he would lose his chance to play in this league most likely. But the cops saw it and were willing to let it go, the NFL saw it and were willing to suspend him for 10 days and let it go, and the Cowboys knew about it and were willing to sign and extend him. Beyond that I just don't care. The crybabies on twitter and social media are 1) people who don't watch football and never were planning on watching anyway, and 2) rival fans who would love to have Hardy on their team, no matter what they say.

He's an idiot if he hit her unprovoked, but everyone makes mistakes. Just don't ever do it again, and people will forget in about a year.

I probably am a POS, but 'meh'.

Refreshing honesty. So good to hear. Thank you. BTW, you're not a POS.

 

[zrinkill]

What answer? Sheesh, you are just awful at this.

I am sorry .......I will go slower ....... Where do you draw the line on bringing in a good player with character issues? Rape? Murder? Child abuse? Child molestation?

 

[GroundZero1970]

So not enough guts to say you would be ok with anything as long as he is good.

Never question my guts , i have been through and survived things that would give you nightmares. Unless i know precisely what happened then i dont have any opinion on it really.

 

[erod]

I am sorry .......I will go slower ....... Where do you draw the line on bringing in a good player with character issues? Rape? Murder? Child abuse? Child molestation?

I draw it for someone who can somehow manage 33,000 posts on a message board, but only get 1,300 likes.

 

[GroundZero1970]

The league said he could play so he plays

 

[JohnsKey19]

I fully expect Jerry to dig in and show they support Hardy and still want to sign him long-term. I'm pretty sure any team that even considered signing Hardy this past summer has viewed every photo and report pertaining to this case, so todays events change nothing in that aspect.

 

[zrinkill]

I draw it for someone who can somehow manage 33,000 posts on a message board, but only get 1,300 likes.

Just like I thought .......