Heard a rumour on sirius radio...Denver-Houston trade?

[theebs]

Pat kirwan just said on his sirius show that Adrian peterson could now go to tampa, atlanta or minnesota. They all love him even though they have running backs.

so again, how much fun is saturday going to be?

 

[Yeagermeister]

Pat kirwan just said on his sirius show that Adrian peterson could now go to tampa, atlanta or minnesota. They all love him even though they have running backs.

so again, how much fun is saturday going to be?

I could understand Atl taking him since Warrick Dunn is not the rb he used to be.

 

[montgod]

I could understand Atl taking him since Warrick Dunn is not the rb he used to be.

Well, they do have a new coach so a new offensive system where a coach likes who he likes. I don't see it though seeing as though they have a possible stud in Norwood.

 

[montgod]

The Bills need a LB as badly as they need a RB after losing London Fletcher and Takeo Spikes this offseason, and there are a lot of reports that Levy has fallen in love with Paul Posluszny the way he fell in love with Whitner last year. If they could get a Posluszey or a Willis at #12 and then trade a mid round pick for someone like Julius, that would probably be ideal for them.

Very true! I would welcome that or even a trade involving picks from them next year seeing as though I think Buffalo will be one of the cellar dwellers next year. Shoot... if they need a LB so bad...how about shipping Bradie James as well!

 

[EMMITTnROY]

I love all this Adrian Peterson talk.. The only thing, though, is that if we get anyone else besides him on Saturday, I will be severely disappointed.. Which I shouldn't be because the chances of getting him are slim anyway.. But seriously, if you go from thinking Adrian Peterson to actually drafting, say, Brandon Merriweather, talk about anti-climatic..

 

[montgod]

I love all this Adrian Peterson talk.. The only thing, though, is that if we get anyone else besides him on Saturday, I will be severely disappointed.. Which I shouldn't be because the chances of getting him are slim anyway.. But seriously, if you go from thinking Adrian Peterson to actually drafting, say, Brandon Merriweather, talk about anti-climatic..

True, but in retrospect, if you envision all those freaking tds given up on game day from the secondary, your enthusiasm starts to even out with a Merriweather pick who should significantly limit these opportunities...

....unless he draws a penalty or ejection for kicking and punching a wr that he is defending.

 

[Yeagermeister]

Well, they do have a new coach so a new offensive system where a coach likes who he likes. I don't see it though seeing as though they have a possible stud in Norwood.

Norwood is better suited to be a second rb IMO

 

[montgod]

Norwood is better suited to be a second rb IMO

Could be true since he is on the small side: 5'11 204.

For some reason, from all the hightlights I have seen of Norwood, I want to slate him as a similar back to M. Turner, even though Turner is a little bigger: 5'10 237

 

[fanfromvirginia]

Apparently Denver wants to get ahead of buffalo to get patrick willis. And apparently Houston is the team that is willing to deal with them.

If denver jumped to 10, I think that would be great for us. If Adrian Peterson falls to 10 and then Denver moves into that spot he would at least make it to 11, I dont think San francisco would take him.

So that leaves buffalo and then maybe it really will be time to figure out how bad we want Peterson, if he is there.

22=780
12=1200

so 420 Has to be made up. that would cost us our 2nd(370) and 4th(50).

So the question is Can julius jones recoup a 2nd and a 4th? Can he recoup a 3rd and a 5th? or is he only worth a 4th on draft day?

Very intersting to me, if julius could recoup a 2 or a 3 and 5 and you can get peterson from buffalo for the 22, 53 and 122 it would be something to think about.

So lets hope if they do want peterson that:

The Browns take quinn.
Houston doesnt want peterson
Houston and denver swap for willis if still there.

Just throwing it out there, what I heard, its a rumour from nfl sirius radio, please dont take this fact or hype...Just passing along something I heard which could lead to something I think!

I don't see us doing the trade unless JJ is thrown in and valued at around a mid-third rounder. Once someone believes JJ is worth a 3rd, then we're good to go IMO. The numbers work.

JJ says he's not throwing in any players but I'm not buying it. Not for Mr. Wow himself.

 

[Chuck 54]

Apparently Denver wants to get ahead of buffalo to get patrick willis. And apparently Houston is the team that is willing to deal with them.

If denver jumped to 10, I think that would be great for us. If Adrian Peterson falls to 10 and then Denver moves into that spot he would at least make it to 11, I dont think San francisco would take him.

So that leaves buffalo and then maybe it really will be time to figure out how bad we want Peterson, if he is there.

22=780
12=1200

so 420 Has to be made up. that would cost us our 2nd(370) and 4th(50).

So the question is Can julius jones recoup a 2nd and a 4th? Can he recoup a 3rd and a 5th? or is he only worth a 4th on draft day?

Very intersting to me, if julius could recoup a 2 or a 3 and 5 and you can get peterson from buffalo for the 22, 53 and 122 it would be something to think about.

So lets hope if they do want peterson that:

The Browns take quinn.
Houston doesnt want peterson
Houston and denver swap for willis if still there.

Just throwing it out there, what I heard, its a rumour from nfl sirius radio, please dont take this fact or hype...Just passing along something I heard which could lead to something I think!

You're dreaming....even if no one in the top 10 wants Peterson, someone will trade up to get him because you can't leave that value on the board while you dip way below in the top of round 1.

Peterson will be gone in the top 5-6 slots.

 

[montgod]

I don't see us doing the trade unless JJ is thrown in and valued at around a mid-third rounder. Once someone believes JJ is worth a 3rd, then we're good to go IMO. The numbers work.

JJ says he's not throwing in any players but I'm not buying it. Not for Mr. Wow himself.

Was it actually ever stated that AP was the WOW player? Then again, from what I recall, I think he did state the WOW player as being on the offensive side of the ball which would only be AP in this years draft outside of C. Johnson who Dallas has NO WAY of obtaining.

 

[Chocolate Lab]

seconded. Someone shoot this man.

:laugh2:

Fellas, this is why I almost don't want Peterson. There's going to be so much competition for him that we'd have to give up even more than usual to trade up for him. And I think there are plenty of good players in the second and third round that we'd miss out on if we start giving away too many picks.

 

[EMMITTnROY]

:laugh2:

Fellas, this is why I almost don't want Peterson. There's going to be so much competition for him that we'd have to give up even more than usual to trade up for him. And I think there are plenty of good players in the second and third round that we'd miss out on if we start giving away too many picks.

CLab, we meet again..

Here's my thing with all our picks.. We have 10 of em.. There is no way that we keep 10 rookies on this team.. We are way too talented for that.. So why not give some away? It's quality over quantity..

 

[montgod]

:laugh2:

Fellas, this is why I almost don't want Peterson. There's going to be so much competition for him that we'd have to give up even more than usual to trade up for him. And I think there are plenty of good players in the second and third round that we'd miss out on if we start giving away too many picks.

I agree. I really think Dallas can compete and win the SB this year and the years to come. With some solid picks for the pass defense, Oline, and Wrs, it will really strengthen Dallas this year and the years to come. That is how a SB winner is made, through the draft first.

Giving away picks for a position in which Dallas is already relatively strong would hinder where Dallas could go now and in the future. Of course, Dallas would be possibly better at RB if they received AP this year, but would suffer in the other positions where they could have stock piled solid players.

Just remember, besides the pass defense, the biggest area of need was the Oline last year that hindered Dallas going further then the first round of the playoffs. It wasn't because of the rbs. Imagine what kind of year JJones will have this year as well as Romo with a new Oline with some young talented Oline to boot? Skys the limit.

 

[montgod]

CLab, we meet again..

Here's my thing with all our picks.. We have 10 of em.. There is no way that we keep 10 rookies on this team.. We are way too talented for that.. So why not give some away? It's quality over quantity..

True, but those ten picks consist mainly of late rounds picks which usually end up being camp fodder. The picks that would be given up to get a player like AP would be early, solid picks where you could add depth and great football players instead of just one possible superstar rb.

 

[carphalen5150]

I had never really given Peterson a thought in our draft plans, but I must say if we have a reasonable shot to get him, then do it. I'm willing to give up a 2nd and 4th to get a chance at him. IMO both of his injuries were on the fluke side so I do not really see him as a health concern.

 

[Chocolate Lab]

Peterson sucks! Don't draft that bum! :

No doubt all 10 picks won't make the team... But many of those are in the very late rounds, and those have practically no value for trading up in the first. To move way up, we're looking at giving away first-day picks, and those guys can be really good players. They can be potential multi-year starters at FS, WR, OL, etc...

Edit, montgod said just what I was thinking.

 

[montgod]

Peterson sucks! Don't draft that bum! :

No doubt all 10 picks won't make the team... But many of those are in the very late rounds, and those have practically no value for trading up in the first. To move way up, we're looking at giving away first-day picks, and those guys can be really good players. They can be potential multi-year starters at FS, WR, OL, etc...

Sounds familiar?

http://cowboyszone.com/forums/showthread.php?t=86045&page=5

 

[EMMITTnROY]

CLab and mont, I definitely see your line of thinking, but here's my thing.. you mention FS.. well, we have Pat Watkins who I still want to see more of and we have Ken Hamlin.. is adding a rookie backup FS gonna help us get to the Super Bowl this year? you mention WR.. well, we have TO and Glenn, and yes they are getting old, but they are still very good for at least this year.. and we just signed Crayton.. I doubt a rookie WR is gonna beat him out of the 3rd spot.. So is a rookie 4th WR gonna help us get to the Super Bowl this year? you mention OL.. well, we are set at all the starting positions.. is a backup rookie OL gonna help us get to the Super Bowl this year? RB is the one position that we could seriously upgrade ourselves for this year (rookie RB's have more success than other positions) and have a player make an impact to help push us over the edge..

Don't kid yourselves into thinking that we are still a couple of years or a lot of players away from a Super Bowl.. in today's NFL, these Dallas Cowboys are a contender, if not a favorite.. With the talent and the new coaching staff, we have the potential to go all the way.. We beat the Super Bowl champs last year.. Does anyone in the NFC scare you? The point is, we have a good shot right now to make a run.. A guy like Adrian Peterson can push you over the edge.. He would help Romo, TO, Glenn, and Witten.. He helps the OL.. He helps the defense by sustaining drives longer.. Adrian Peterson can be the difference this year, but a couple of project FS's and WR's cannot..

 

[montgod]

CLab and mont, I definitely see your line of thinking, but here's my thing.. you mention FS.. well, we have Pat Watkins who I still want to see more of and we have Ken Hamlin.. is adding a rookie backup FS gonna help us get to the Super Bowl this year? you mention WR.. well, we have TO and Glenn, and yes they are getting old, but they are still very good for at least this year.. and we just signed Crayton.. I doubt a rookie WR is gonna beat him out of the 3rd spot.. So is a rookie 4th WR gonna help us get to the Super Bowl this year? you mention OL.. well, we are set at all the starting positions.. is a backup rookie OL gonna help us get to the Super Bowl this year? RB is the one position that we could seriously upgrade ourselves for this year (rookie RB's have more success than other positions) and have a player make an impact to help push us over the edge..

Don't kid yourselves into thinking that we are still a couple of years or a lot of players away from a Super Bowl.. in today's NFL, these Dallas Cowboys are a contender, if not a favorite.. With the talent and the new coaching staff, we have the potential to go all the way.. We beat the Super Bowl champs last year.. Does anyone in the NFC scare you? The point is, we have a good shot right now to make a run.. A guy like Adrian Peterson can push you over the edge.. He would help Romo, TO, Glenn, and Witten.. He helps the OL.. He helps the defense by sustaining drives longer.. Adrian Peterson can be the difference this year, but a couple of project FS's and WR's cannot..

I beg to differ. Are you telling me that at this point you are fully comfortable depending on all of our Olinemen to make it throughout the whole year at a high level? Flozell didn't perform at a high level last year, we have all heard the knock on the star signing of Leonard Davis, and Colombo isn't out of the woods yet in terms of a possible injury. This doesn't make me feel totally confident in giving up valuable picks for one player and not addressing the needs of the team as a whole. Drafting a young Olineman in the first three rounds would be ideal to make sure that Romo, JJ, Barber, etc can do well offensively for the whole year. Don't let me remind you how well the offensive line was when Flozell went down for the year.

Then to add that the Boys biggest weakness last year was the secondary, it would seem smart to draft a first or second round talent to help fill in this void which would give insurance if Henry or Glenn go down in to injury. Don't also forget that Hamlin is just a year from his major injury as well. Whose to say he won't go down ...besides the fact that he still doesn't truly answer the FS void. Depending on a fifth round choice in Watkins is silly when you have FS availble early in the draft who have been compared to the likes of Ed Reed. There was a reason why he was benched.

We already know about the Wrs, I think it can go either way, but I agree that they don't produce normally until the second year, but at least the Boys would have someone in the wings with talent.

Yes, drafting AP would be a possible superstar who might do better than JJones and push our running game to another level. Lots of question marks there though. On the flipside, AP could also get injured in the beginning of the year, not be able to adjust to the NFL, or suffer from a depleted Oline if someone gets injured.

With JJones and Barber last year, the Boys know what they are getting and were very successful in the running game last year. With an upgraded line from FA and the draft, the sky is the limit. I wouldn't even rule out JJones coming back to form with a line that could actually give him holes to run through.

Then to add all the other valuable team players from the draft, the Boys would be strong on all aspects and not susceptable to injury or lack of talent.

In the end, next year as with any NFL team, depends on how long you can last and keep your team playing at a high level. With multiple great players versus one potential superstar, I think Dallas would be much more successful.