Heard a rumour on sirius radio...Denver-Houston trade?

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montgod;1468073 said:
I beg to differ. Are you telling me that at this point you are fully comfortable depending on all of our Olinemen to make it throughout the whole year at a high level? Flozell didn't perform at a high level last year, we have all heard the knock on the star signing of Leonard Davis, and Colombo isn't out of the woods yet in terms of a possible injury. This doesn't make me feel totally confident in giving up valuable picks for one player and not addressing the needs of the team as a whole. Drafting a young Olineman in the first three rounds would be ideal to make sure that Romo, JJ, Barber, etc can do well offensively for the whole year. Don't let me remind you how well the offensive line was when Flozell went down for the year.

Then to add that the Boys biggest weakness last year was the secondary, it would seem smart to draft a first or second round talent to help fill in this void which would give insurance if Henry or Glenn go down in to injury. Don't also forget that Hamlin is just a year from his major injury as well. Whose to say he won't go down ...besides the fact that he still doesn't truly answer the FS void. Depending on a fifth round choice in Watkins is silly when you have FS availble early in the draft who have been compared to the likes of Ed Reed. There was a reason why he was benched.

We already know about the Wrs, I think it can go either way, but I agree that they don't produce normally until the second year, but at least the Boys would have someone in the wings with talent.

Yes, drafting AP would be a possible superstar who might do better than JJones and push our running game to another level. Lots of question marks there though. On the flipside, AP could also get injured in the beginning of the year, not be able to adjust to the NFL, or suffer from a depleted Oline if someone gets injured.

With JJones and Barber last year, the Boys know what they are getting and were very successful in the running game last year. With an upgraded line from FA and the draft, the sky is the limit. I wouldn't even rule out JJones coming back to form with a line that could actually give him holes to run through.

Then to add all the other valuable team players from the draft, the Boys would be strong on all aspects and not susceptable to injury or lack of talent.

In the end, next year as with any NFL team, depends on how long you can last and keep your team playing at a high level. With multiple great players versus one potential superstar, I think Dallas would be much more successful.
All good points BUT..

Almost your entire argument hedges on our players getting hurt.. Well, you could use that argument for any team or any position.. What if Peyton Manning gets hurt? But more importantly, I just don't think that line of thinking holds up.. We have good, solid backups already.. You can only go so deep at each position.. Do you really think that a 2nd and 3rd rounder this year are gonna be the difference makers?
 

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EMMITTnROY;1468089 said:
All good points BUT..

Almost your entire argument hedges on our players getting hurt.. Well, you could use that argument for any team or any position.. What if Peyton Manning gets hurt? But more importantly, I just don't think that line of thinking holds up.. We have good, solid backups already.. You can only go so deep at each position.. Do you really think that a 2nd and 3rd rounder this year are gonna be the difference makers?

Yes, I do think they will be difference makers. Whose to say that in drafting an Olineman or FS/CB, they wouldn't be able to beat out a starter or at least get significant time on the field? Example...Was Flozell a difference maker when he came into the league?

Again, Hamlin, Watkins, Davis (obviously), and Henry aren't all reliable options to totally depend on when you can draft a player like Merriweather or Nelson. Yes, they are rookies, but with their talent level, I don't think they would have a problem adjusting quickly.

We already know about the Olinemen and their issues.

I just would rather that Dallas have the concept that the Patroits do in that getting ready for a SB run this year doesn't negate the fact that you want to gear up for a SB run the next year....and the next year.... etc. What better way to do this in drafting more talent then less?

When these questions marks have been addressed, then sure, go out and splurge on an AP but I don't believe Dallas should do so at the expense of the various other needs of the team.

Also keep in mind that next year Colombo, Hamlin, Crayton, TO, Glenn - wr (possibly), Glenn - cb, Adams.... will be up for a new contract or liable to be cut. Whose going to replace or help fill the void for next years SB run? JJ got a lot of money, but not sure he wants to hurt his cap figure that much.
 

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Big Dakota;1467852 said:
Once again i give you a big :jerk:
Does your mommy know?
Does your palm have hair on it?
Are you turning green with all that, um, exertion?:laugh2:
 

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montgod;1467965 said:
Was it actually ever stated that AP was the WOW player? Then again, from what I recall, I think he did state the WOW player as being on the offensive side of the ball which would only be AP in this years draft outside of C. Johnson who Dallas has NO WAY of obtaining.
You answered your own question. There just aren't that many candidates for WOW players out there. M-A-Y-B-E Landry, M-A-Y-B-E one of the CBs. There is nobody else on offense who qualifies.
 

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theebs;1467745 said:
Apparently Denver wants to get ahead of buffalo to get patrick willis. And apparently Houston is the team that is willing to deal with them.

If denver jumped to 10, I think that would be great for us. If Adrian Peterson falls to 10 and then Denver moves into that spot he would at least make it to 11, I dont think San francisco would take him.

So that leaves buffalo and then maybe it really will be time to figure out how bad we want Peterson, if he is there.

22=780
12=1200

so 420 Has to be made up. that would cost us our 2nd(370) and 4th(50).

So the question is Can julius jones recoup a 2nd and a 4th? Can he recoup a 3rd and a 5th? or is he only worth a 4th on draft day?

Very intersting to me, if julius could recoup a 2 or a 3 and 5 and you can get peterson from buffalo for the 22, 53 and 122 it would be something to think about.

So lets hope if they do want peterson that:

The Browns take quinn.
Houston doesnt want peterson
Houston and denver swap for willis if still there.

Just throwing it out there, what I heard, its a rumour from nfl sirius radio, please dont take this fact or hype...Just passing along something I heard which could lead to something I think!

WE AREN'T GETTING PETERSON! GET OVER IT!


And that goes for EVERYONE. It's time to put that dream to rest.
 

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Rack;1468174 said:
WE AREN'T GETTING PETERSON! GET OVER IT!


And that goes for EVERYONE. It's time to put that dream to rest.

Chances are we will not be able to get him but until his name is called I'll hold out hope even if it is the slimmest of hope. I don’t know why this subject would be upsetting to you
 

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Doomsday101;1468180 said:
Chances are we will not be able to get him but until his name is called I'll hold out hope even if it is the slimmest of hope. I don’t know why this subject would be upsetting to you

It's not the subject. I wouldn't mind having AP either. It's the IGNORANCE of people "holding out hope" that bugs me.
 

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Rack;1468184 said:
It's not the subject. I wouldn't mind having AP either. It's the IGNORANCE of people "holding out hope" that bugs me.

dude, it's all fun...

I don't see why you gotta be a **** about it

stupid people and their hope and their ignorance! they piss me off soooo much!
 

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Gaede;1468201 said:
dude, it's all fun...

I don't see why you gotta be a **** about it

stupid people and their hope and their ignorance! they piss me off soooo much!
Do you hate kittens?

And no more happiness!!
 

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Gaede;1468201 said:
dude, it's all fun...

I don't see why you gotta be a **** about it

stupid people and their hope and their ignorance! they piss me off soooo much!

How dare these people have opinions!!:lmao2:
 

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Rack;1468184 said:
It's not the subject. I wouldn't mind having AP either. It's the IGNORANCE of people "holding out hope" that bugs me.
I bet you're gonna tell your kid there ain't no Santa Claus huh?
 

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Rack;1468174 said:
WE AREN'T GETTING PETERSON! GET OVER IT!


And that goes for EVERYONE. It's time to put that dream to rest.

Please reread my first post when I started the thread.

I said it was a rumour that sirius radio that had denver and houston trading and we already have heard about peterson possibly sliding or going as high as 2.

I think I was pretty clear in the opening post, This was not fact or hype. Just stating something I heard on the radio and then something I thought that could have a chance of happening.
 

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InmanRoshi;1468230 said:
Eat your Dwayne Bowe vegetables and LIKE'EM !!

LIKE'EM I SAY !!!!!

Can't eat em w/all this AP talk....cause that's all that would be left on your plate. AP and water.....compared to Meriweather Potatoes, Rice and Peas, Tank of Water, and a big Barbre steak. :D
 

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haha, yeah, there's a lot of Barbre steak goin around, that's for sure
 

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EMMITTnROY;1468227 said:
I bet you're gonna tell your kid there ain't no Santa Claus huh?

Why would I lie to them? There's plenty of REAL things in the world to be excited/happy about.

Besides, in the end all kids care about is getting their presents.
 

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theebs;1467745 said:
So the question is Can julius jones recoup a 2nd and a 4th? Can he recoup a 3rd and a 5th? or is he only worth a 4th on draft day?

Very intersting to me, if julius could recoup a 2 or a 3 and 5 and you can get peterson from buffalo for the 22, 53 and 122 it would be something to think about.

I doubt Dallas is going to receive the same round pick we used to select Julius, plus an additional 1st day pick for Jones
 

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dbair1967;1467754 said:
they passed on Reggie Bush too though didnt they?

I really dont think they'll take him after what they spent on Ahman Green

David

again, Ahman Green is only being guaranteed 6.5 mil, it's doubtful he receives the whole 24 mil

Ahman Green doesn't rule out Peterson, or any other young back
 

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burmafrd;1467793 said:
Jerrah pretty much said that trading current players NOW is a bad idea due to the FACT that getting value for them is not happening untill AFTER the draft.

:hammer: and players hardly go for the pick that was used to select them, it's usually a couple of rounds lower in terms of pick compensation
 

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I actually agree with Rack... but in a less mean and nasty way. :D

I'm a huge Adrian Peterson fan, but I wish all the speculation about us drafting him would just stop already. It's just not going to happen.

It's not like telling your kids that Santa's coming... it's much worse than that... it's telling them that Santa's coming in July... and then there's no present at all. It's just mean.

I work with a Buffalo fan who follows his team maniacally, and he's convinced that Peterson is the #1 player on their board. If he falls past Cleveland, which I don't think he will, Buffalo will snatch him up faster than you can blink.

I hope I'm wrong and that a miracle happens. But I just don't see why so much ink is being spilled speculating that we're going to get him somehow.
 
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