Heisman winner is?

[Danny White]

For the last few years, I've tracked it using the site http://www.stiffarmtrophy.com/ and they have been correct every year that I've watched them.

They have Ingram pulling away a little bit, and McCoy running fourth... although it's still early.

 

[Concord]

For the last few years, I've tracked it using the site http://www.stiffarmtrophy.com/ and they have been correct every year that I've watched them.

They have Ingram pulling away a little bit, and McCoy running fourth... although it's still early.

Hey that's a good site.

 

[ajk23az]

For the last few years, I've tracked it using the site http://www.stiffarmtrophy.com/ and they have been correct every year that I've watched them.

They have Ingram pulling away a little bit, and McCoy running fourth... although it's still early.

Wow, the last 7 years they have predicted right. Impressive. I want Ingram to win. He was absolutely AMAZING when the Tide needed him vs. Ranked teams.

5 games - 128 carries for 825 yards and 6 TDs.

 

[Yeagermeister]

SUH SUH SUH SUH SUH!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I just want to see a non qb/rb win. It's been a while.

 

[Concord]

As long as Tebow doesn't win his second one...I could care less who wins it.

 

[Doomsday101]

As long as Tebow doesn't win his second one...I could care less who wins it.

Is that old Archie

 

[MC KAos]

As long as Tebow doesn't win his second one...I could care less who wins it.

looks like a bum trying to steal the trophy! is that Strahan's long lost father?

 

[joseephuss]

Suh has been under the radar all season. That is because the media does a poor job of promoting defensive guys for the Heisman. It is amazing that someone that could be a finalist for all of the defensive awards that he was nominated for did not get any Heisman recognition until this past Saturday night. I am glad he is a finalist and he should have been talked about being a Heisman front runner all season. He is a beast.

I wouldn't mind if Ingram won the award, but his year is pretty weak in comparison to past running backs who previously won the Heisman. His 1542 rushing yards this season is not that high of a total. This is especially true when you consider that he did this over 13 games. He averaged 118.6 yards per game. That is rather pedestrian compared to the previous winners.

Ingram has 44 carries for 143 yards(3.25 avg) over his last two games played. His back up has 26 carries for 131 yards(5.04 avg.) over those same two games.

I think Ingram would be a deserving winner, but he is not a clear cut winner in my mind. Really none of the finalist are in my opinion. None of them really jump out as "this has to be the guy to win it". This is not a strong year of contenders that truly pulled away from the competition and set themselves apart. Except maybe Suh.

 

[Hostile]

As long as Tebow doesn't win his second one...I could care less who wins it.

Archie Griffin didn't deserve his 2nd one. Tony Dorsett should have won it and been the only guy with 2.

If I had a Heisman vote it would go to Suh. He was by far the most dominant player in the nation this year. To the person who said it was only the Texas game...in a pig's eye. He led his team in tackles as a DT. Try and find anyone else who has ever done that. Suh deserves it over the Offensive guys.

Gerhart would be my runner up. Pac 10 homer vote.

 

[TheBigEasy]

What?

Gerhart ran for almost 1750 yards w/26 touchdowns this year. Ingram's best games were all against great teams (V-Tech, Ole Miss, Florida). McCoy completed 70 percent of his passes this year.

Suh's claim to fame is the Texas game, and that's it. He was completely off the radar til Saturday. Shows how much of a joke the Heisman is becoming.

This is the dumbest statement I have ever read....Suh dominated all season. Very rarely can you ever say a DT is a game changer.

Be on your way....

 

[NickZepp]

I saw Suh play regularly and he's a great player but I don't think he's as impressive as Gerhart. He dominated Texas but that proved what I thought year in the year after the Oklahoma game that Texas wasn't as good as most thought. Gerhart has been amazing in almost every big game I've seen him play in. I wasn't really that impressed with Suh when they played OU outside of a play or two. OU just stunk that game and had a stupid game plan like they always do because of inferior coaching. Also Suh didn't do a thing against Texas Tech. His best game of the year might have been against a bad ISU team.

 

[kmp77]

I like Gerhart. I guess I saw more of him after McCoy. Just DON'T give it to cry baby Tebow please!

 

[CATCH17]

Its looking like the medias thought was "well we will give it to the winner of the Bama vs Florida game unless Colt has a monster game".

Colt had his Heisman performance a week to soon.

 

[Danny White]

Its looking like the medias thought was "well we will give it to the winner of the Bama vs Florida game unless Colt has a monster game".

Colt had his Heisman performance a week to soon.

I think there's still a chance that Suh or Gerhart could win it.

I agree that Colt is out of the running, along with Tebone.

 

[MarionBarberThe4th]

I voted Suh

 

[Biggems]

What I hope happens

1. Ingram
2. McCoy

The last time the BCS title game was in Pasadena and in the Heisman race, a Horns player ended up #2, while the opponent ended up #1, the Horns won the game. So if the above scenario occurs, it has to be positive karma for Texas.

What I feel should happen

1. Suh or Gerhart
2. Suh or Gerhart

 

[UnoDallas]

1 Ingram - he came up big in the big games
2 Gerhart - had an amazing year
3 Suh - Dominate D player

Mccoy an Tebow don't even deserve to be there - the never came up big in the big games -
McCoy OK an NEB ???????????????????????????? lmao
Tebow needed the refs to beat ARK and then Ala blew them out

 

[Concord]

Is that old Archie

Sure is.

looks like a bum trying to steal the trophy! is that Strahan's long lost father?

:laugh2:

Archie Griffin didn't deserve his 2nd one. Tony Dorsett should have won it and been the only guy with 2.

Doesn't really matter.

Still the only Two time winner and that's how I want it to stay.

 

[Hoofbite]

Who cares? The Heisman used to mean you were the best player in the country.

Not anymore. Now its just an award that goes to whatever player from the big schools gets the most love.

I've never been really big into college football so I never really followed the Heisman.

I remember a few years back I actually took a look at the Heisman situation and it literally turned me off to such an award for what will probably be forever.

2006 Troy Smith won the Heisman. And it wasn't a narrow victory, he got a crazy amount of votes. Pretty sure it was like the 2nd highest point total over the last 40 years or something crazy like that.

This was mind boggling to me. Like I said I didn't follow NCAAF. I would watch if a big game was on but I never really planned my day on a NCAAF game. Now, I'm a little more into it but back then I just didn't really care.

I thought it was just crazy that a guy could beat out a number of players who were hands down better than he was and did more than he did. You could have picked any of the guys below Smith and been justified. McFadden especially. Hell, Brennan would have made more sense for the award for best player. He threw for TDs galore that year but when I asked why someone wouldn't consider him they would say "he doesn't play anyone" or "its not all about stats". The second argument really pissed me off the next year when it was Tebow who won and I heard people say "he's got the best stats" or some crap.

The Heisman is a joke. Perfectly fitting I suppose, fits the BCS to a 'T'.

 

[Concord]

2006 Heisman Trophy Voting

Sunday, December 10, 2006



(Voting on 3-2-1 basis)
Players listed with name, school, first, second and third place votes and total points


Player, School 1st 2nd 3rd Total

Troy Smith, Ohio State 801 62 13 2540
Darren McFadden, Arkansas 45 298 147 878
Brady Quinn, Notre Dame 13 276 91 782
Steve Slaton, West Virginia 6 51 94 214
Mike Hart, Michigan 5 58 79 210
Colt Brennan, Hawaii 6 44 96 202
Ray Rice, Rutgers 1 16 44 79
Ian Johnson, Boise State 1 13 44 73
Dwayne Jarrett, USC 1 11 22 47
Calvin Johnson, Georgia Tech 1 8 24 43



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Voting history: Widest margins
1968 -- 1750, O.J. Simpson, USC, over Leroy Keyes, Purdue, 2853-1103.

2006 -- 1662, Troy Smith, Ohio State, over Darren McFadden, Arkansas, 2540-878.

1993 -- 1622, Charlie Ward, Florida State, over Heath Shuler, Tennessee, 2310-688.

1991 -- 1574, Desmond Howard, Michigan, over Casey Weldon, Florida State, 2077-503.

1998 -- 1563, Ricky Williams, Texas, over Michael Bishop, Kansas State, 2355-792.

1986 -- 1541, Vinny Testaverde, Miami, over Paul Palmer, Temple, 2213-672.

1955 -- 1477, Hopalong Cassady, Ohio State, over Jim Swink, TCU 2219-742.

1963 -- 1356, Roger Staubach, Navy, over Billy Lothridge, Georgia Tech, 1960-504.

1951 -- 1353, Dick Kazmaier, Princeton, over Hank Lauricella, Tennessee, 1777-424.

1959 -- 1316, Billy Cannon, LSU, over Rich Lucas, Penn State, 1929-613.

1974 -- 1101, Archie Griffin, Ohio State, over Anthony Davis, USC, 1920-819.

1975 -- 1070, Archie Griffin, Ohio State, over Chuck Muncie, California, 1800-730.

1960 -- 1062, Joe Bellino, Navy, over Tom Brown, Minnesota, 1793-731.

1999 -- 1048, Ron Dayne, Wisconsin, over Joe Hamilton, Georgia Tech, 2,042-994.

1976 -- 1011, Tony Dorsett, Pitt, over Ricky Bell, USC, 2357-1346.

NARROWEST MARGINS

1985 -- 45, Bo Jackson, Auburn, over Chuck Long, Iowa, 1509-1464.

1961 -- 53, Ernie Davis, Syracuse, over Bob Ferguson, Ohio State, 824-771.

1953 -- 56, John Lattner, Notre Dame, over Paul Giel, Minnesota, 1850-1794-x.

2001 -- 62, Eric Crouch, Nebraska, over Rex Grossman, Florida, 770-708.

1989 -- 70, Andre Ware, Houston, over Anthony Thompson, Indiana, 1073-1003.

1956 -- 72, Paul Hornung, Notre Dame, over John Majors, Tennessee, 1066-994-y.

1964 -- 74, John Huarte, Notre Dame, over Jerry Rhome, Tulsa, 1026-952.

2000 -- 76, Chris Weinke, Florida St., over Josh Heupel, Oklahoma, 1,628-1,552.

1978 -- 77, Billy Sims, Oklahoma, over Chuck Fusina, Penn State, 827-750.

1962 -- 89, Terry Baker, Oregon State, over Jerry Stovall, LSU, 707-618.

x-Jay Berwanger, Chicago, defeated Monk Meyer, Army, by 55 in 1935 but vote totals of 84-29 were considerably smaller.

y-Hornung's margin over third place finisher over Tom McDonald, Oklahoma, was 93 (1066-973), the slimmest margin between first-third place.



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Most points


1968 -- O.J. Simpson, USC, 2,853.

2005 -- Reggie Bush, USC, 2,541.

2006 -- Troy Smith, Ohio State, 2,540.

1976 -- Tony Dorsett, Pitt, 2,357.

1998 -- Ricky Williams, Texas, 2,355

1993 -- Charlie Ward, Florida State, 2,310.

1984 -- Doug Flutie, Boston College, 2,240.

1970 -- Jim Plunkett, Stanford, 2,229.

1955 -- Hopalong Cassady, Ohio State, 2,219.

1986 -- Vinny Testaverde, Miami, 2,213.

1991 -- Desmond Howard, Michigan, 2,077.

1999 -- Ron Dayne, Wisconsin, 2,042.



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Most first place votes


1968 -- O.J. Simpson, USC, 855.

2006 -- Troy Smith, Ohio State, 801.

2005 -- Reggie Bush, USC, 784.

1993 -- Charlie Ward, Florida State, 740.

1998 -- Ricky Williams, Texas, 714.

1976 -- Tony Dorsett, Pitt, 701.

1984 -- Doug Flutie, Boston College, 678.

1986 -- Vinny Testaverde, Miami, 678.

1991 -- Desmond Howard, Michigan, 640.

1955 -- Howard Cassady, Ohio State, 594.

1999 -- on Dayne, Wisconsin, 586.

1988 -- Barry Sanders, Oklahoma State, 559.

1982 -- Herschel Walker, Georgia, 525.

1959 -- Billy Cannon, LSU, 519.

1963 -- Roger Staubach, Navy, 517.

1970 -- Jim Plunkett, Stanford, 510.

1951 -- Dick Kazmaier, Princeton, 501.



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Winners by schools


Penn State -- John Cappelletti, HB, 1973

Pitt -- Tony Dorsett, HB, 1976

Army (3) -- Glenn Davis, HB, 1946; Doc Blanchard, HB, 1945; Pete Dawkins, HB, 1958

Auburn (2) -- Bo Jackson, TB, 1985; Pat Sullivan, QB, 1971

Boston College -- Doug Flutie, QB, 1984

Brigham Young -- Ty Detmer, QB, 1990

Chicago -- Jay Berwanger, HB, 1935

Colorado -- Rashaan Salaam, RB, 1994

Florida (2) -- Steve Spurrier, QB, 1966; Danny Wuerffel, QB, 1996

Florida State (2) -- Chris Weinke, QB, 2000; Charlie Ward, QB, 1993

Georgia (2) -- Frank Sinkwich, HB, 1942; Herschel Walker, HB, 1982

Houston -- Andre Ware, QB, 1989

Iowa -- Nile Kinnick, HB, 1939

LSU -- Billy Cannon, HB, 1959

Miami (2) -- Gino Torretta, QB, 1992; Vinny Testaverde, QB, 1986

Michigan (3) -- Charles Woodson, CB, 1997; Desmond Howard, WR, 1991; Tom Harmon, HB, 1940

Minnesota -- Bruce Smith, HB, 1941

Navy (2) -- Roger Staubach, QB, 1963; Joe Bellino, HB, 1960

Nebraska (3) -- Eric Crouch, QB, 2001; Mike Rozier, TB, 1983; Johnny Rodgers, FL, 1972

Notre Dame (7) -- Tim Brown, WR, 1987; John Huarte, QB, 1964; Paul Hornung, QB, 1956; John Lattner, HB, 1953; Angelo Bertelli, QB, 1943; Leon Hart, E, 1949; John Lujack, QB, 1947

Ohio State (7) -- Troy Smith, QB, 2006; Eddie George, TB, 1995; Archie Griffin HB, 1975; Archie Griffin HB, 1974; Howard Cassady HB, 1955; Vic Janowicz HB, 1950; Les Horvath QB, 1944

Oklahoma (4) -- Jason White ,QB, 2003; Billy Sims, HB, 1978; Steve Owens, HB, 1969; Billy Vessels, HB, 1952

Oklahoma State -- Barry Sanders, RB, 1988

Oregon State -- Terry Baker, QB, 1962

Princeton--Dick Kazmaier, HB, 1951

South Carolina -- George Rogers, HB, 1980

SMU -- Doak Walker, HB, 1948

Stanford -- Jim Plunkett, QB, 1970

Syracuse -- Ernie Davis, HB, 1961

Texas (2) -- Earl Campbell, FB, 1977; Ricky Williams, RB, 1998

Texas A&M -- John David Crow, HB, 1957

TCU -- Davey O'Brien, QB, 1938

UCLA -- Gary Beban, QB, 1967

USC (7) -- Reggie Bush, TB, 2005; Matt Leinart, QB, 2004; Carson Palmer, QB, 2002; Marcus Allen, TB, 1981; Charles White, TB, 1979; O.J. Simpson, TB, 1968; Mike Garrett, TB, 1965

Wisconsin (2) -- Alan Ameche, FB, 1954; Ron Dayne, RB, 1999

Yale (2) -- Clint Frank, HB, 1937; Larry Kelley, E, 1936



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