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Doomsday101;3135646 said:
Looks like they are getting 1 from the Pac10, big 12 and SEC and Navy showed OSU they were not a push over. One thing that may help Houston is many of their defensive players will be returning Coogs had a fairly young defense only 2 starting Sr

I think the Coogs will unseat ECU next year as CUSA champs. I know some people who attend ECU and were at the game in Greenville, NC last weekend---they said Keenum was outstanding and the game and crowd was loud and wild.
 

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DFWJC;3135733 said:
I think the Coogs will unseat ECU next year as CUSA champs. I know some people who attend ECU and were at the game in Greenville, NC last weekend---they said Keenum was outstanding and the game and crowd was loud and wild.

I saw the game on TV it was an entertaining game. Case did throw 3 ints that hurt them including the last pass that bounced off the CB who was in coverage into the hands of the safety on the play. None the less Keenum is fun to watch.

Of course I was also going back and forth to the Cinn vs Pitt game another great game to watch. Tony Pike is one of the top QB's I have seen this year and I think he has a bright future ahead of him in the NFL. He has the size at 6'6" and a great arm
 

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Doomsday101;3135746 said:
I saw the game on TV it was an entertaining game. Case did throw 3 ints that hurt them including the last pass that bounced off the CB who was in coverage into the hands of the safety on the play. None the less Keenum is fun to watch.

Of course I was also going back and forth to the Cinn vs Pitt game another great game to watch. Tony Pike is one of the top QB's I have seen this year and I think he has a bright future ahead of him in the NFL. He has the size at 6'6" and a great arm
Oh yeah. Pike will play in the NFL.
 

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Don't know about you fellas but if Griffin comes back from the injury OK, which he should, I'm putting my money on him.

Robert Griffin - Baylor
 

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ABQCOWBOY;3135858 said:
Don't know about you fellas but if Griffin comes back from the injury OK, which he should, I'm putting my money on him.

For a minute I thought Archie was coming back for a third.

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ABQCOWBOY;3135858 said:
Don't know about you fellas but if Griffin comes back from the injury OK, which he should, I'm putting my money on him.

Robert Griffin - Baylor
I actually like the kid at A&M better....though both are very good.
 

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DFWJC;3135879 said:
I actually like the kid at A&M better....though both are very good.

Jerrod Johnson. Good player but he's nowhere near the running threat Griffin is. That kid is unbelievable.
 

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ABQCOWBOY;3135898 said:
Jerrod Johnson. Good player but he's nowhere near the running threat Griffin is. That kid is unbelievable.
No doubt. I just see Johnson as the better passer...I think he even had a better year than Colt...something like a 140 passer rating, 28TD and very few picks.
 

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DFWJC;3135912 said:
No doubt. I just see Johnson as the better passer...I think he even had a better year than Colt...something like a 140 passer rating, 28TD and very few picks.

I don't see him as the better passer even. As a starter his Freshman year, Griffin's QB rating was 142. 15 TDs Passing, 13 Rushing and 3 INTs. 60% Completion Percentage and he did not have a great OL.

I think Johnson is an excellent player but I think Griffin is something extrodinary. That's just me.
 

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ABQCOWBOY;3135858 said:
Don't know about you fellas but if Griffin comes back from the injury OK, which he should, I'm putting my money on him.

Robert Griffin - Baylor

I am very big on Griffin.
 

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I like Griffin myself but if it does not reflect in wins for Baylor he will be hard pressed to win things like the Heisman.
 

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Doomsday101;3135952 said:
I like Griffin myself but if it does not reflect in wins for Baylor he will be hard pressed to win things like the Heisman.

I look at the Big12 next year and I see a lot of the top players moving on. I think there is a good chance that he can have a big year but your right, Baylor has to win some games.
 

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Baylor will have a tough time winning 5 or 6 games. Unless those wins are again Oklahoma, Texas type teams and he puts up unbelievable numbers Griffin won't win it. I think Ingram may be up there to win it again next year. He'll win it this year for sure and he'll be back next year.
 

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NickZepp;3135973 said:
Baylor will have a tough time winning 5 or 6 games. Unless those wins are again Oklahoma, Texas type teams and he puts up unbelievable numbers Griffin won't win it. I think Ingram may be up there to win it again next year. He'll win it this year for sure and he'll be back next year.

I don't see that. If, Ingram wins it this year, he'd be a fool to return. If he wins the Heisman, he's probably a first round pick. I would not chance that if I were he. Injury is too great a risk if you know your a 1st rd pick. Bama probably loses 2 or 3 straters on the OL and with Richardson behind him, I think he'd be crazy to stay. Besides, it's a long way from a sure thing to win it twice. Only one man has ever done it in the history of the game.
 

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I looks like it's still an extremely tight race among the top three: Ingram, Suh, and Gerhart. Ingram is slightly in the lead, but well within the margin of error.

McCoy's going to finish 4th, but with far more votes than Tebow.
 

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ABQCOWBOY;3136028 said:
I don't see that. If, Ingram wins it this year, he'd be a fool to return. If he wins the Heisman, he's probably a first round pick. I would not chance that if I were he. Injury is too great a risk if you know your a 1st rd pick. Bama probably loses 2 or 3 straters on the OL and with Richardson behind him, I think he'd be crazy to stay. Besides, it's a long way from a sure thing to win it twice. Only one man has ever done it in the history of the game.

He's a true Soph he can't go pro. Alabama will still be really good next year.
 

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StiffArmTrophy.com's final projection.
Our final projection: Mark Ingram, in a close one.

It's such a close race, that we'd like to hang on for a few more days and convince another hundred voters to share their picks -- but alas, time has run out.

There's also something tempting about just declaring it "too close to call", but that just won't do.

We're now up to 313 ballots, 33.8% of all the ballots. And on those 313 ballots, we project that Mark Ingram will earn 1336 points - or 48.1% of the maximum 2778 possible.

We're now projecting that Toby Gerhart will earn 1241 points - or 44.7% of the max possible. Ndamukong Suh will earn 1188 points - or 42.8% of the max possible.

Colt McCoy comes in at 939 points, or 33.8%; and Tim Tebow comes in at 295 points, or 10.6%.

We are reasonably confident that Mark Ingram will win the Trophy. With only a 3.4% advantage over Gerhart, it's far from a sure thing - as our past projections have overestimated the top-two gap by 2.6 to 4.2%. That said, it would take a fairly dramatic difference between the known and unknown ballots for Ingram to lose.

We are not, however, confident that Gerhart will defeat Suh for second place. With less than a 2% gap, it's too close to call. Even late Friday, as batches of ballots were coming in, Suh and Gerhart traded places several times.

We're very confident that McCoy will place fourth - and that Tebow will place fifth.

In addition, we're projecting with confidence that Ndamukong Suh will earn the most first place votes. We also project that Toby Gerhart will earn the second-most first place votes (even though we've tracked more #1s for Ingram.)
 

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I really wanted to see Colt win this :( I was hoping they wouldn't base their votes on the last game but the whole season.
 
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