Here Come the Spurs!

[Bob Sacamano]

So what have I learned in this thread.

Tim Duncan is not a whiner :bang2:

The Spurs are a top 5 NBA Franchise historically

When Mavs fans disagree with Spurs fans, Spurs fans respond with:

"Do you understand sports".

I love this thread

- Mike G.

3 Championships is all you need to know about the Spurs

 

[Bob Sacamano]

from: http://sanantonio.about.com/od/spurs/a/spursinfo.htm

"Spurs fans are lucky that their franchise has been so historically successful. Since their admittance to the NBA, the Spurs have only failed to make the playoffs three times, while winning three NBA Championships."

and also the spurs have the SECOND best winning percentage of ALL TIME, so ya, add it all up, and you jelous mavs fans can see that the spurs are one of the top five NBA franchises of all time!

source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/San_Antonio_Spurs

ouch, that's gonna leave a mark

 

[Rampage]

i respect the spurs and there titles but man they are boring

 

[SA_Gunslinger]

And here's what I've learned from my good Mavs friends.

Tim Duncan is the most reprehensible and despicable athlete in modern sports... in fact, he makes OJ look like Mother Teresa.

The only difference between the Spurs and the Mavericks are three meaningless NBA Championships... and really it's more like 2 1/2 NBA Championships... and those don't really count because titles don't matter.

When a Spurs fan disagrees with a Mavs fan, the Spurs fan is accused of being "bitter" and "jealous"... (presumably because of all the success the Mavs have had).

I, too, love this thread.

 

[Mavs Man]

I know I'm the "Mavs Man" and all that, but bottom line is the Spurs have the hardware and the Mavs, right now, do not. They could have and should have won it all last year - but they didn't. Were there questionable calls in the Finals? Yeah, but it happens. And despite that, the Mavs still had a chance to close it out in two of those games they lost in Miami - if it hadn't been for missed free throws and dumb plays at the ends of those games.

The Spurs and Mavs played a tight series last year, and will again this year if they meet in the Western Conference Finals. Until then, good luck, and I hope to see them then.

 

[Maikeru-sama]

3 Championships is all you need to know about the Spurs

 

[MC KAos]

I know I'm the "Mavs Man" and all that, but bottom line is the Spurs have the hardware and the Mavs, right now, do not. They could have and should have won it all last year - but they didn't. Were there questionable calls in the Finals? Yeah, but it happens. And despite that, the Mavs still had a chance to close it out in two of those games they lost in Miami - if it hadn't been for missed free throws and dumb plays at the ends of those games.

The Spurs and Mavs played a tight series last year, and will again this year if they meet in the Western Conference Finals. Until then, good luck, and I hope to see them then.

i never thought i could find a mavs fan i could respect, but there it is

 

[Mavs Man]

i never thought i could find a mavs fan i could respect, but there it is

I still have faith Dallas will win in a seven game series, but it's far from a forgone conclusion. As I've said in other threads, San Antonio is getting old. And with all of the late postseason runs, the Olympics and World Championship appearances they've got a lot of mileage on those tires. Experience, too, but it wears on players late in the season. Bowen, Barry, Finley, and Big Shot Rob are all in their middle 30s or older. Duncan is over 30, which is the start of the decline of big 7 footers. Ginobili is over 30 or will be this year. And Dallas was the team that set the tempo in last year's playoffs. Between Phoenix and San Antonio, I'd rather play San Antonio because I think we have an easier time controlling the tempo.

But San Antonio has done it before multiple times, so I'm not going to cheer like an idiot that Dallas will run all over them - because they're good enough I'm not taking them lightly.

 

[MC KAos]

i respect the spurs and there titles but man they are boring

haha, a lot of people say that, but i LOVE it. nothing better than the opposition going on 4-8 minute scoring droughts!)

I still have faith Dallas will win in a seven game series, but it's far from a forgone conclusion. As I've said in other threads, San Antonio is getting old. And with all of the late postseason runs, the Olympics and World Championship appearances they've got a lot of mileage on those tires. Experience, too, but it wears on players late in the season. Bowen, Barry, Finley, and Big Shot Rob are all in their middle 30s or older. Duncan is over 30, which is the start of the decline of big 7 footers. Ginobili is over 30 or will be this year. And Dallas was the team that set the tempo in last year's playoffs. Between Phoenix and San Antonio, I'd rather play San Antonio because I think we have an easier time controlling the tempo.

But San Antonio has done it before multiple times, so I'm not going to cheer like an idiot that Dallas will run all over them - because they're good enough I'm not taking them lightly.

thats all true, like someone said once, the spurs match up well with the suns, the suns match up well with the mavs, the mavs match up well with the spurs. The role players ARE getting old, but the good thing is that their contracts will all run out in the next two years, and we have 4 picks in a LOADED draft class coming up. Plus i think youd be hard pressed to see timmy decline any time soon, look at malone, kareem, david robinson, etc. they all played well past their thirty's, shaq would have been there too but he has weight problems that hold him back. I dont think ginobili will ever be as good as he was in 05 because of his reckless style of play, but he will be a solid player for years to come. One thing you didnt mention is that Tony parker is ONLY 24!! i expect him to keep developing and improving, the sky is the limit for him. I just hope we get the same luck weve had in the draft these next couple of years, but i trust our front office, in my opinion the best in the NBA.

good luck to your mavs with the warriors (yall better win cuz otherwise i have to jump in the river walk!)

 

[SA_Gunslinger]

I know I'm the "Mavs Man" and all that, but bottom line is the Spurs have the hardware and the Mavs, right now, do not. They could have and should have won it all last year - but they didn't. Were there questionable calls in the Finals? Yeah, but it happens. And despite that, the Mavs still had a chance to close it out in two of those games they lost in Miami - if it hadn't been for missed free throws and dumb plays at the ends of those games.

The Spurs and Mavs played a tight series last year, and will again this year if they meet in the Western Conference Finals. Until then, good luck, and I hope to see them then.

great post, sir. at least there are some mavs fans around here that can say it like it is. you have my respect.

i am rooting for mavs/spurs too. not b/c i hate the mavs (i actually don't...at least, not as much as most spurs fans), but b/c I think they are the 2 best teams in the nba, and it will be one awesome series.

 

[peplaw06]

from: http://sanantonio.about.com/od/spurs/a/spursinfo.htm

"Spurs fans are lucky that their franchise has been so historically successful. Since their admittance to the NBA, the Spurs have only failed to make the playoffs three times, while winning three NBA Championships."

and also the spurs have the SECOND best winning percentage of ALL TIME, so ya, add it all up, and you jelous mavs fans can see that the spurs are one of the top five NBA franchises of all time!

source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/San_Antonio_Spurs

ouch, that's gonna leave a mark

Not so much...

Actually Kaos, the site you linked indicates that the Spurs missed the playoffs 4 times. All of these occurred from 1983 to 1996 -- stay with me on this point. This time frame is exactly what I was addressing.

During that same time, the years the Spurs made the playoffs, they were eliminated in the first round 6 of 8 times. The other two, they were knocked out in the second round.

The point I made was they were mediocre to bad for most of the 80s and early 90s. And that stat does nothing to my opinion. You replied that they were "title contenders." I stick with mediocre to bad. A few first round playoff exits does not mean you're a "title contender" in my book. I don't think the Warriors or the Magic are title contenders this year.

And as far as the winning percentage goes, that just doesn't impress me much. The Spurs were an ABA team before moving into the NBA, meaning they didn't have the initial years of awful records that expansion teams usually experience. In the NBA, championships are my measuring stick, and despite the Spurs being perennial "title contenders" as you say, they didn't win a title until '99.

Like I've said, even the Mavs can point to some playoff success, but we haven't got the title yet. I expect that to change sometime soon, but it hasn't happened. But that doesn't change the fact that the Spurs have only recently experienced that success. The perennial "title contender" stuff is bogus puffering IMO.

 

[MC KAos]

Not so much...

Actually Kaos, the site you linked indicates that the Spurs missed the playoffs 4 times. All of these occurred from 1983 to 1996 -- stay with me on this point. This time frame is exactly what I was addressing.

During that same time, the years the Spurs made the playoffs, they were eliminated in the first round 6 of 8 times. The other two, they were knocked out in the second round.

The point I made was they were mediocre to bad for most of the 80s and early 90s. And that stat does nothing to my opinion. You replied that they were "title contenders." I stick with mediocre to bad. A few first round playoff exits does not mean you're a "title contender" in my book. I don't think the Warriors or the Magic are title contenders this year.

And as far as the winning percentage goes, that just doesn't impress me much. The Spurs were an ABA team before moving into the NBA, meaning they didn't have the initial years of awful records that expansion teams usually experience. In the NBA, championships are my measuring stick, and despite the Spurs being perennial "title contenders" as you say, they didn't win a title until '99.

Like I've said, even the Mavs can point to some playoff success, but we haven't got the title yet. I expect that to change sometime soon, but it hasn't happened. But that doesn't change the fact that the Spurs have only recently experienced that success. The perennial "title contender" stuff is bogus puffering IMO.

that cant be true, because the spurs made the WCF in 1995. Now as to wether or not you are impressed with only missing the playoffs 3 or 4 times, having the second best winning percentage of all time, being tied, with all be it a lot of teams, for fourth most titles, and having won 15 division titles(thats one division title every two years!!) then thats your deal, as for me, thats pretty impressive no matter what franchise you speak of in any sport.

 

[Danny White]

Although I gotta give Danny credit for loving his team enough to say they deserve to be listed as one of the top 5 NBA teams of all time...WOW.

I was trying to be objective.

OK, mister impartial observer, rank your top ten NBA franchises of all time.

 

[Mavs Man]

One thing you didnt mention is that Tony parker is ONLY 24!! i expect him to keep developing and improving, the sky is the limit for him. I just hope we get the same luck weve had in the draft these next couple of years, but i trust our front office, in my opinion the best in the NBA.

good luck to your mavs with the warriors (yall better win cuz otherwise i have to jump in the river walk!)

Yeah, there was a reason I didn't mention Parker. He'll be good for a long time.

And I didn't realize the Spurs had so many picks this season. That scares me a little considering their draft history.

 

[BrAinPaiNt]

I was trying to be objective.

OK, mister impartial observer, rank your top ten NBA franchises of all time.

Celtics...actually they could probably take all five top spots with their history.

Lakers

Bulls

Philly (not just under the 76ers name)

Pistons

NY Knicks (they have won two but have been to 8 championship games)

 

[Danny White]

Celtics...actually they could probably take all five top spots with their history.

Lakers

Bulls

Philly (not just under the 76ers name)

Pistons

NY Knicks (they have won two but have been to 8 championship games)

Nice list, thanks for posting. :

 

[dalboy]

"dirk going for the lay up and he amde oh he is fouled by Ginolbi" Spurs are going down baby

 

[peplaw06]

that cant be true, because the spurs made the WCF in 1995. Now as to wether or not you are impressed with only missing the playoffs 3 or 4 times, having the second best winning percentage of all time, being tied, with all be it a lot of teams, for fourth most titles, and having won 15 division titles(thats one division title every two years!!) then thats your deal, as for me, thats pretty impressive no matter what franchise you speak of in any sport.

Typo... meant 1994.

And of course YOU'RE impressed, you're a Spurs fan, As far as I'm concerned, the NBA has been in existence for 60 years. 30 titles belong to the Celtics and Lakers. So they're on a completely different level. Then the Bulls are 1A. Everyone else is a step or two below. The recent success of the Spurs is where most of their records come from. Doesn't change the fact that they were a mostly mediocre franchise until the mid to late 90's.

 

[SA_Gunslinger]

Typo... meant 1994.

And of course YOU'RE impressed, you're a Spurs fan, As far as I'm concerned, the NBA has been in existence for 60 years. 30 titles belong to the Celtics and Lakers. So they're on a completely different level. Then the Bulls are 1A. Everyone else is a step or two below. The recent success of the Spurs is where most of their records come from. Doesn't change the fact that they were a mostly mediocre franchise until the mid to late 90's.

yea, but the spurs have only been in the nba since 1976. averaging a title a decade ain't too shabby. there are plenty of nba teams who would love to be able to say that....like say....the mavs.

no one is saying the spurs are the greatest franchise ever, but you fail to give them any credit at all.

i mean, the bulls went from 1966 to 1991 without any titles, yet you hold them so much higher than san antonio, and they had the luxury of the greatest player in the history of the nba on their roster.

doesn't make much sense to me to focus on SA's low points when they have had so many high ones.

somebody else had the sixers up there higher than SA, too, in one of these threads. i have no problem with that, but what have they done in the last 24 years? so, why can we ignore their recent bad years, but not SA's bad years that were back in the 1980's?

not making sense to me.

here is my point...yes, the spurs had their years of mediocrity, like EVERY TEAM in EVERY SPORT has. even our beloved cowboys. but what is significant is not those years, but that they finally rose above those seasons, and came home with the trophy. multiple times. that, after all, is the name of the game. to talk like it doesn't matter that they acheived the highest honor in the sport due to their once poor past is nothing short of silly.

this is a lame argument on your part. sorry.

 

[MC KAos]

Yeah, there was a reason I didn't mention Parker. He'll be good for a long time.

And I didn't realize the Spurs had so many picks this season. That scares me a little considering their draft history.

yup, we got 2 of our own picks, 1 from the bucks in a draft day trade last year and another one from the bulls. I think one of the reasons we have so many aging players is because of our lack of picks after the malik/narz trade a couple of years ago, but at least it got us a title.