Here's a thought Mike Jenkins to FS

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RoyTheHammer;4395803 said:
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Not at all.. do you watch football outside of Cowboys games?

None of those players had better years than Mike Jenkins.

I'm a big fan of the NFL and watch a ton of football. The real question is do you watch other teams besides the Cowboys? I would take ALL of those guys over Mike Jenkins any day. Especially Nnamdi and Patrick Peterson.
 

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calicowboy54;4395107 said:
Hear me out before the neck stinger good tackler has range and can play the ball in front of him

5'10" 205 thats the size of most NFL FS

i say give it a try and sign one of the top corners Finnegan or Cox, move Oscan opposite new corner and draft one in top 3 Rounds

Draft NT and pass rusher


new back 6

LCB= Finnergan/Cox

SS= Sensi

FS= Jenkins

RCB = Oscan

LOLB= Ware

MILB= FA

MOLB= Lee

ROLB= Butler/Draft pick

OK. Even if we were to go as a far as assuming that Jenkins would 1) Play well at FS, 2) Not be more likely to be injured, there' is still no way that this would even be done.

Jenkins will be in the final year of his contract. There is no way Jenkins would agree to make the switch . He's considered a good player with some upside potential left and he plays at one of the higher paid marquee positions. CBs are paid way more than FSs. Not only would he balk, there's no way he even listens to a Cowboys offer once he's a F A.
 

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ufcrules1;4396325 said:
I'm a big fan of the NFL and watch a ton of football. The real question is do you watch other teams besides the Cowboys? I would take ALL of those guys over Mike Jenkins any day. Especially Nnamdi and Patrick Peterson.

Not one time last season was Jenkins used and abused the way Nnamdi and Patrick Peterson were last year. Peterson is a better athlete and maybe a better football player, but as a pure cornerback? Go back and watch Arizona on field. And as far as Nnamdi goes the best the corner right now is not a lifetime achievement award, as of right now Jenkins is better
 

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Fletch;4395252 said:
Nnamdi? Yeah okay. Overpaid. Woodson and his pathetic GB defense and secondary who got punked by She-Li who lives off throwing off his back foot? Check your list when you get a chance. :laugh2:

I'm sorry, are you attempting to claim that Mike Jenkins is a better corner that Nnamdi or Woodson? With your sole arguement being that Woodsons defense got torched by the same team that torched ours?

RoyTheHammer;4395262 said:
DRC? No.

Samuel? No.

Nnamdi? No.

Webster? No.

Woodson? No.

Peterson? Helll no.

Sorry, Jenkins if perfectly healthy during a great season would love to measure up to a season any of the above have had. Those are all proven ballers that require the attention of the QB and Peterson absolutely thwarted our own "dynamic" passing game when we played him, and he hasn't reached half the corner he's going to be.

The arguement was that Jenkins is a top 10 corner, and their are at least 10-12 corners who are hands down better not to mention the fact they can stay on the field to help their teams down the stretch.
 

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benson;4396419 said:
Sorry, Jenkins if perfectly healthy during a great season would love to measure up to a season any of the above have had. Those are all proven ballers that require the attention of the QB and Peterson absolutely thwarted our own "dynamic" passing game when we played him, and he hasn't reached half the corner he's going to be.

You all are prisoners of the moment. Patrick Peterson a proven baller? Why? Because you watched him play a game against the Cowboys and hold Dez Bryant to something like 7 catches for 80 yards and a TD? :laugh2:
 

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Jenkins to Safety? Because yeah, we need another hole at corner?

Jenkins just got back to playing well at corner, let's not create a new hole trying to plug another...
 

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ufcrules1;4396325 said:
I'm a big fan of the NFL and watch a ton of football. The real question is do you watch other teams besides the Cowboys? I would take ALL of those guys over Mike Jenkins any day. Especially Nnamdi and Patrick Peterson.

Glad you like the NFL bud.

That being said, i don't care who you'd take really. The fact is, the guys i listed had bad years.
 

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benson;4396419 said:
I'm sorry, are you attempting to claim that Mike Jenkins is a better corner that Nnamdi or Woodson? With your sole arguement being that Woodsons defense got torched by the same team that torched ours?



Sorry, Jenkins if perfectly healthy during a great season would love to measure up to a season any of the above have had. Those are all proven ballers that require the attention of the QB and Peterson absolutely thwarted our own "dynamic" passing game when we played him, and he hasn't reached half the corner he's going to be.

The arguement was that Jenkins is a top 10 corner, and their are at least 10-12 corners who are hands down better not to mention the fact they can stay on the field to help their teams down the stretch.

The fact is that this season, Jenkins played better than the guys i listed.
 

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RoyTheHammer;4396585 said:
Glad you like the NFL bud.

That being said, i don't care who you'd take really. The fact is, the guys i listed had bad years.

They had a off year but that doesn't mean they aren't hands down better than glass jaw Jenkins who has been a PROVEN QUITTER in the past. He has let players walk into the end zone right in front of his face MULTIPLE times. He might be the best the Cowboys have which says very little considering how pathetic our defense is, but he isn't top 10 in the league and he isn't better than any of the names mentioned already in this thread.

Here is your boy Jenkins quitting on a play. He did a ton of times in 2010 along with the other quitters on the team that year. I don't care for players like that who wear the star.

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RoyTheHammer;4396585 said:
Glad you like the NFL bud.

That being said, i don't care who you'd take really. The fact is, the guys i listed had bad years.

Would you take Nnamdi or Peterson in a straight up trade right now for Jenkins?
 

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ufcrules1;4396732 said:
Would you take Nnamdi or Peterson in a straight up trade right now for Jenkins?

Peterson yes, Nnamdi no. Same reason I have given before and that is not willing to pay a kings ransom for a old player. Peterson on the other hand one of the top picks in last years draft and I think has a big future ahead of him.

As far as Jenkins, I like him and glad he is in Dallas. I will not deny and came down on him as well for his overall play in 2010 but he has stepped up this past season despite injuries to his shoulder and hamstring fought through it and did a good job on the outside.
 

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Doomsday101;4396797 said:
Peterson yes, Nnamdi no. Same reason I have given before and that is not willing to pay a kings ransom for a old player.

I'm just saying a straight up trade. No money.. just Jenkins for Nnamdi. Yes or no?
 

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ufcrules1;4396818 said:
I'm just saying a straight up trade. No money.. just Jenkins for Nnamdi. Yes or no?

Jenkins, I'm not a short term thinker like you are. Nnamdi 3 or 4 years ago yes. I don't think going out and getting old player on long term deals is smart if you do then great I don't

As for no money lets get real money plays a part in this.
 

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Doomsday101;4396821 said:
Jenkins, I'm not a short term thinker like you are. Nnamdi 3 or 4 years ago yes. I don't think going out and getting old player on long term deals is smart if you do then great I don't

As for no money lets get real money plays a part in this.

You aren't playing along Dooms. Lets try this.. Hypothetically, would you trade Mike Jenkins for Nnamdi straight up? No money.. just Jenkins for Nnamdi? Yes or no?
 

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ufcrules1;4396833 said:
You aren't playing along Dooms. Lets try this.. Hypothetically, would you trade Mike Jenkins for Nnamdi straight up? No money.. just Jenkins for Nnamdi? Yes or no?

NO, Maybe you need the ask the question differently as in Do I think right now Nnamdi is the more talented player? I would say yes

Now if I'm trying to put together a team I'm not doing it with high priced players on the down hill side of the career. It seems you would and it is the same model that has been tried and failed in Washington. You invest in old guys you better win it all because if not you will be starting all over quickly.
 

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Doomsday101;4396838 said:
NO, Maybe you need the ask the question differently as in Do I think right now Nnamdi is the more talented player? I would say yes

Now if I'm trying to put together a team I'm not doing it with high priced players on the down hill side of the career. It seems you would and it is the same model that has been tried and failed in Washington. You invest in old guys you better win it all because if not you will be starting all over quickly.

I'm confused with your answer. Was your answer NO to my direct question of would you trade Nnamdi for Jenkins straight up right now? It's a direct hypothetical question. My answer is YES, in a heart beat. What is yours?
 

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ufcrules1;4396847 said:
I'm confused with your answer. Was your answer NO to my direct question of would you trade Nnamdi for Jenkins straight up right now? It's a direct hypothetical question. My answer is YES, in a heart beat. What is yours?

Again NO I would not I will go with the younger player not the older guy on the downhill side. Before you start the Homer BS let me say I did say I would trade stright up Jenkins for Peterson why Peterson is a guy I can build on Nnamdi is not.
 

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Doomsday101;4396852 said:
Again NO I would not I will go with the younger player not the older guy on the downhill side. Before you start the Homer BS let me say I did say I would trade stright up Jenkins for Peterson why Peterson is a guy I can build on Nnamdi is not.

lol... ok man, congratulations you just past the homer test. I would say you are a 9 out of a possible 10. 10 being 100% blind homer. You taking Peterson over Jenkins keeps you from being a 10.

I understand your point of view as well, but Jenkins has been a mixed bag player. He has had good years, embarrassingly bad years, has shown a propensity for getting injured, and quit on several plays in 2010.

Nnamdi on the other hand has been the cream of the crop at CB for his whole career and had a little off year in 2011 but still a shut down corner that has played with heart and tenacity. He still has 4-5 good years left in him.
 

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taking a good corner and turning him into a mediocres free safety not a good idea. Besides he doesn't tackle well and he can't stay healthy. Free safety is a more physical position.
 
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