Here's a thought Mike Jenkins to FS

[Doomsday101]

lol... ok man, congratulations you just past the homer test. I would say you are a 9 out of a possible 10. 10 being 100% blind homer. You taking Peterson over Jenkins keeps you from being a 10.

I understand your point of view as well, but Jenkins has been a mixed bag player. He has had good years, embarrassingly bad years, has shown a propensity for getting injured, and quit on several plays in 2010.

Nnamdi on the other hand has been the cream of the crop at CB for his whole career and had a little off year in 2011 but still a shut down corner that has played with heart and tenacity. He still has 4-5 good years left in him.

I pass your test of a Homer? You are a joke. You have a view as well I. My ansewer has nothing to do with being a Homer just a differance of view on how to put together a team.

If you can't have adult conversations then don't bother asking me question

 

[ufcrules1]

I pass your test of a Homer? You are a joke. You have a view as well I. My ansewer has nothing to do with being a Homer just a differance of view on how to put together a team.

If you can't have adult conversations then don't bother asking me question

I'm just doing some light hearted ribbing, I didn't mean to offend you. You did pass my homer test.. but remember, it's just my opinion that you are a homer based on your opinions on this forum and we are all entitled to our opinions right?

So far you have said you would not trade Jenkins for Nnamdi in a straight up trade and you have also said you wouldn't trade Felix for Peyton manning in a straight up trade. That is what leads me to believe you are a bigtime homer. Nothing wrong with that though, you love your team and it happens to be the same team I love.

 

[Stautner]

The guy has backed away from tackling WR's at an angle, so why would anyone think it a good idea that he be moved to a position where he will be asked to tackle TE's and RB's head on?

 

[Doomsday101]

I'm just doing some light hearted ribbing, I didn't mean to offend you. You did pass my homer test.. but remember, it's just my opinion that you are a homer based on your opinions on this forum and we are all entitled to our opinions right?

So far you have said you would not trade Jenkins for Nnamdi in a straight up trade and you have also said you wouldn't trade Felix for Peyton manning in a straight up trade. That is what leads me to believe you are a bigtime homer. Nothing wrong with that though, you love your team and it happens to be the same team I love.

True and what do those guys have in common? Age, I don't put together the over the hill gang. It seems to me your vision is very short term something you seem to share with Danny Boy in Washington and what has gotten Jerry in trouble from time to time. This has nothing to do with Felix or with Jenkins it has to do with a bigger picture of putting together a team that can compete now and years later.

NE for example have been smart, they will go after older players but when they do they are short term and cap friendly but the bulk of the players are young guys just as they did in the secondary they took some lumps they have also played a big part and are 2nd in the league in ints for the season. They did not jump out into the Nnamdi sweep stakes

On the other hand you have us getting 2 high priced players on the downhill side to me that has quick fix written all over it and from what I have seen over the years quick fixes tend to back fire and hurt team not help them

 

[ufcrules1]

True and what do those guys have in common? Age, I don't put together the over the hill gang. It seems to me your vision is very short term something you seem to share with Danny Boy in Washington and what has gotten Jerry in trouble from time to time. This has nothing to do with Felix or with Jenkins it has to do with a bigger picture of putting together a team that can compete now and years later.

NE for example have been smart, they will go after older players but when they do they are short term and cap friendly but the bulk of the players are young guys just as they did in the secondary they took some lumps they have also played a big part and are 2nd in the league in ints for the season. They did not jump out into the Nnamdi sweep stakes

On the other hand you have us getting 2 high priced players on the downhill side to me that has quick fix written all over it and from what I have seen over the years quick fixes tend to back fire and hurt team not help them

I see where you are coming from but Nnamdi is far from a quick fix. He has several years left in him and his is elite at his position. Manning for Felix jones straight up would be a no brainer too. That would make Romo our backup if Manning was playing at an elite level. I asked those questions to you to see where your mindset was, not that I ever think the Colts or Eagles would be dumb enough to do a straight up trade of their elite players for our average players. You past the homer test, congrats.

 

[benson]

The fact is that this season, Jenkins played better than the guys i listed.

Jenkins is a good corner and I'm happy he's on this team. However, by no stretch of the imagination is he TOP 10 talent at the corner position in the NFL. Jenkins played better than the leagues best corners last season? What can you possibly be watching? EVEN IF HE DID play at the level you say, he only played at it for half the season. What a contribution!

You're wasting your time arguing with those clowns.

Your asinine point attempting to claim that there arn't 9 other corners in the world better than our own Mike Jenkins holds absolutely no ground. There are actually corners in this league that QB's and WR's must study, prepare for, and recognize before the snap due to their game-breaking ability and Jenkins is not one of them. He's still young and if he consistently plays like he did in 09 then he may develop into one, but at this point he is not. Cowboy fans like yourself that believe we have top 10 talent at every position are ridiculous to listen to and are half the reason why fans of 31 other teams can't stand us as a whole.

 

[ufcrules1]

Jenkins is a good corner and I'm happy he's on this team. However, by no stretch of the imagination is he TOP 10 talent at the corner position in the NFL. Jenkins played better than the leagues best corners last season? What can you possibly be watching? EVEN IF HE DID play at the level you say, he only played at it for half the season. What a contribution!

Also, the funny thing is, there was no need for teams to throw much to Jenkins side because our other corners were so pathetic. Opposing QB's just picked on the other side every game. Yeah, Jenkins was great HALF the season.

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Your asinine point attempting to claim that there arn't 9 other corners in the world better than our own Mike Jenkins holds absolutely no ground. There are actually corners in this league that QB's and WR's must study, prepare for, and recognize before the snap due to their game-breaking ability and Jenkins is not one of them. He's still young and if he consistently plays like he did in 09 then he may develop into one, but at this point he is not. Cowboy fans like yourself that believe we have top 10 talent at every position are ridiculous to listen to and are half the reason why fans of 31 other teams can't stand us as a whole.

Ah yes, Kobe the blind homer. I forgot all about him until you quoted his post. The ignore feature works really well on this site.

 

[Doomsday101]

I see where you are coming from but Nnamdi is far from a quick fix. He has several years left in him and his is elite at his position. Manning for Felix jones straight up would be a no brainer too. That would make Romo our backup if Manning was playing at an elite level. I asked those questions to you to see where your mindset was, not that I ever think the Colts or Eagles would be dumb enough to do a straight up trade of their elite players for our average players. You past the homer test, congrats.

We don't know how much time he has left on avg as guys get older their game and their speed start to slide and it happens pretty darn quick.

As for your homer test? I'm not impressed. It is not about protecting our players. Had you asked me stright up Rodgers for Romo I would say yes why he has great talent and age as well as wear and tear is good.

However Peyton is a 35 year old QB coming off his 2nd major surgery. So this has nothing to do with being a so called Homer it has to do with using some logic which seems to go right over your head

 

[Stautner]

Jenkins is a good corner and I'm happy he's on this team. However, by no stretch of the imagination is he TOP 10 talent at the corner position in the NFL. Jenkins played better than the leagues best corners last season? What can you possibly be watching? EVEN IF HE DID play at the level you say, he only played at it for half the season. What a contribution!

So what if he isn't a top ten CB, he's the top CB the Cowboys have, and you are advocating removing him from that spot to put him at a spot where his glaring weakness as a tackler would be dramatically more exposed. It makes no sense.

 

[TellerMorrow34]

I pass your test of a Homer? You are a joke. You have a view as well I. My ansewer has nothing to do with being a Homer just a differance of view on how to put together a team.

If you can't have adult conversations then don't bother asking me question

We don't know how much time he has left on avg as guys get older their game and their speed start to slide and it happens pretty darn quick.

As for your homer test? I'm not impressed. It is not about protecting our players. Had you asked me stright up Rodgers for Romo I would say yes why he has great talent and age as well as wear and tear is good.

However Peyton is a 35 year old QB coming off his 2nd major surgery. So this has nothing to do with being a so called Homer it has to do with using some logic which seems to go right over your head

You're playing right into his silly nature. Anyone who throws out the taglines of homer or realist, in nearly every one of their arguments, simply shouldn't be taken at all seriously.

Especially when they have a 'homer test'.

 

[ufcrules1]

It has to do with using some logic

Yes, very poor logic and reasoning. Nnamdi and Peyton for Jenkins and Felix straight up and you wouldn't take it..... That is down right shocking to me.

 

[Doomsday101]

You're playing right into his silly nature. Anyone who throws out the taglines of homer or realist, in nearly every one of their arguments, simply shouldn't be taken at all seriously.

Especially when they have a 'homer test'.

I agree. Just trying to give account of my views not so much for him but for others. I accept the fact that we have some narrow vision and small minded people. It is what it is.

 

[ufcrules1]

I agree. Just trying to give account of my views not so much for him but for others. I accept the fact that we have some narrow vision and small minded people. It is what it is.

Small minded people? Haha.. yup, we sure do.

 

[Doomsday101]

Yes, very poor logic and reasoning. Nnamdi and Peyton for Jenkins and Felix straight up and you wouldn't take it..... That is down right shocking to me.

I'm not surprised you are shocked.

 

[Doomsday101]

Small minded people? Haha.. yup, we sure do.

You bet and you lead the pack. Lets go out and get old players yeah that is how you build a team. Thanks for the advice danny boy how has that worked out in Washington. :laugh2:

 

[ufcrules1]

I'm not surprised you are shocked.

I'm not surprised you wouldn't trade Jenkins and Felix straight up for Nnamdi and Peyton either.

 

[ufcrules1]

You bet and you lead the pack. Lets go out and get old players yeah that is how you build a team. Thanks for the advice danny boy how has that worked out in Washington. :laugh2:

Yeah, Peyton and Nnamdi suck bad.. let me tell you. They don't have any time left in the NFL either.

 

[Doomsday101]

I'm not surprised you wouldn't trade Jenkins and Felix straight up for Nnamdi and Peyton either.

Your right I would not pay out big money for 2 old guys and give up on younger players. If you asked me about top players still in their prime and made an offer for Jenkins and Romo yeah I would likely make that trade but I would not do it for old guys. You notice teams like the Pats and Pitt do not do it and the end results have been pretty damn good

 

[Doomsday101]

Yeah, Peyton and Nnamdi suck bad.. let me tell you. They don't have any time left in the NFL either.

Never said they sucked I said they are on the downhill side of their careers and not worth the investment and clearly not worth making trades for or giving up picks for.

 

[ufcrules1]

Never said they sucked I said they are on the downhill side of their careers and not worth the investment and clearly not worth making trades for or giving up picks for.

I told you it would just be a straight up trade but your brain can't fathom that, it just keeps spinning and spinning. We would not be giving up picks for them. We would be giving up Felix and Jenkins straight up and you said no way. Time to move on pal.. it was all a hypothetical anyway.