Recommended Hill suspension reduced to 1 game

[Rayman70]

And what did they get? An exciting ending, just as they wanted. They don't care about who wins so much, they just want to keep it exciting. And they've figured out that calling key penalties does just that. Explains the Noncall in the NO/MINNY game to a T. Explains why no lead is safe any more.

And it's easy, because they make sure and show the fans the hold being called, and everyone goes "Yup, that was holding." Never mind the 50 previous plays where it was just as obvious.

1000% right. Thats why I said soft rigged. Its more about keeping the fans hooked, than it is who wins. I do think they want certain outcomes in playoff games. I believe that all the way. Case and point was the Gb GAME in 2014. Then the Giants niners playoff game where it was obvious. That never got called. The rigging goes up a notch in post season. I think in a small way, the deck has been stacked against us for many years. Jerry plays right into it.

 

[kskboys]

yep. Winning this time of year requires a solid run game and decent D. Its vastly different than playing in September. Its been 25 years and the organization seems to have not learned this lesson nor does it seem they care. Why should they? Shoot...they make so much money regardless, whats the incentive?Just sayin.

That's what comes from having non-football guys in charge. They don't comprehend how running the ball affects a game, and how the passpasspass philosophy makes it very easy on the D, as they don't have to run Defend. They can just pin their ears back and go after the QB every play.

 

[Bullflop]

While what you say is true, its still a mental mind slap when revisiting past drafts and mistakes made, the old hindsight is 20/20 dialogue.
Cant jump in a time machine and correct all the draft mistakes, if we could we would have more rings than fingers.
Not busting down your thoughts, just relating that I used to be a revisionist as well post drafts, and its just better to not look back at what could have been, but hope that the player in this case Hill.. somehow becomes something of value.

The other party got in Hill's face and apparently said something to trigger Hill's response. It's still a violation of the NFL's rule to avoid physical confrontation, so it was up to Hill to restrain himself. The missed game and money that resulted should have had, at least, some useful effect, if Hill has any good sense about him. He'll need to be aware of the need for better self-control in the future. It's a necessary part of the maturation process. We'll see if the Dallas FO chooses to restrain him from playing in New Orleans in such a pivotal game. I could readily deal with their decision, regardless of the result, in any eventuality. Yet, I still wonder what was said to trigger Hill, though, not that it justified such a foolish reaction.

 

[Rayman70]

That's what comes from having non-football guys in charge. They don't comprehend how running the ball affects a game, and how the passpasspass philosophy makes it very easy on the D, as they don't have to run Defend. They can just pin their ears back and go after the QB every play.

like u said exactly. Football isnt complicated. Basic fundamentals at a high level wins many games this time of year..at all levels of the sport. Jerry is a clusterbleep. As long as fannies are in the seats and he moves merch, I think he truly thinks hes right. Which is why we are winless when it counts going n 25 years. We have players that are ok with mediocrity. Which is why I love Parsons, because he is not oK with it. He's an alpha dog leader. Dlaw isnt. Time for the team 2 get behind this kid and let him carry us. I trust him. Some dudes you just trust. Hes one of them.

 

[Dallasfann]

Not hindsight. Looking at his skillset, lack of starting, and where the scouts rated him, everything pointed toward the 5th or later. I'm surprised you think hindsight played a part in my evaluation. Especially since most considered him a project pick at the time.

I just disagree with this. The Cowboys are actually pretty good at drafting players. People don't want to believe that but we really are good at it. 90% of teams in this league would love our scouting department. We drafted Hill in the 2nd round for a reason. Posters on this board think Rod ran around campus screaming "draft Hill or I'm going to detonate the bomb I planted in the basement". I don't believe that. I wonder where scouts rated Tom Brady and where he would of went if he was re-drafted. Everything draft pick can be looked at in hindsight. There is still a good chance that Hill meets or exceeds his 2nd round draft slot. He is 23.

 

[HowardC]

The clip was posted on the previous page here.. It was from a tweet by Mike Fisher I think of a fan's phone video of the incident.

That's like the video they kept showing of harrison smith choking CeeDee was edited. They cut out part...

 

[Tussinman]

Not hindsight. Looking at his skillset, lack of starting, and where the scouts rated him, everything pointed toward the 5th or later. I'm surprised you think hindsight played a part in my evaluation. Especially since most considered him a project pick at the time.

Yeah hindsight is a terrible excuse. It was a premier pick spent on a project that needed lots of work.

That negates the whole advantage of those first 2 round picks (advantage being getting 3 to 4 years of starting ability for a cheap rate). "He's only 23 just give him a little bit more time" doesn't really sound that great when you factor in he's only under contract till age 24...........

 

[Rayman70]

Talents not the issue. Its what is between the ears and the drive that I question. Teams that have high FB IQ type guys coupled with a physical brand of play tend to have great success. We seem to be missing that right mix thus far. Hey, its just been 25 years, but whos counting...

 

[RonnieT24]

He's not. He's more of a one trick pony type. Amazing burst off the ball. It's now up to the staff to figure out how to channel this burst to make him a useful player. Appears to be more of rotational type or pass rush specialist.

I have to disagree with your scouting report on Hill.. He is more than a one trick pony. Twice since coming back he has chased down plays 15-20 yards down field that went away from him.. That's more than burst off the ball.. that's hustle and motor. I would also wager his pressure rate since coming back has been the highest of all the remaining DTs. He is consistently able to get around the QB.. It has been noticeable when he's not in the game because without him we have mounted little to nothing in the way of middle pressure. With him there has always been at least one guy crawling around the QB's feet. I'm not saying the guy is going to be some all pro in the future.. but I think you're selling him short.. as are a lot of people.. He obviously needs to do some growing up.. but I believe Quinn is figuring out how to get good stuff out of him.

 

[Rayman70]

Harrison Smith got a free pass from the league. If it was another teams player he choked then it would have been pasted all over the headlines. But because it was Dallas...its like muh..

 

[Rayman70]

I have to disagree with your scouting report on Hill.. He is more than a one trick pony. Twice since coming back he has chased down plays 15-20 yards down field that went away from him.. That's more than burst off the ball.. that's hustle and motor. I would also wager his pressure rate since coming back has been the highest of all the remaining DTs. He is consistently able to get around the QB.. It has been noticeable when he's not in the game because without him we have mounted little to nothing in the way of middle pressure. With him there has always been at least one guy crawling around the QB's feet. I'm not saying the guy is going to be some all pro in the future.. but I think you're selling him short.. as are a lot of people.. He obviously needs to do some growing up.. but I believe Quinn is figuring out how to get good stuff out of him.

He is fearless. He has a killers mentality. I like him. Too bad he plays for the Saints. He is a winner. Makes plays.If we aint careful he will gash us and beat us. He is the energizer bunny when Kamara isnt there. They rely on him alot.We have 2 stop him and Ingram then we have a chance.

 

[Rayman70]

1 thing we better fix is we have 2 wrap up tackle. If we don't tackle Hill well, he will fight for more yards. He's hard 2 bring down. I really saw how we arm tackle when I was at the Raider game. It was hard 2 watch. Raiders killed us because of that. Cant arm tackle Hill.

 

[links18]

Uh, Championship!?

 

[pancakeman]

Good beating Washington lot more important. Play angry be ready.

But not too angry!

 

[GimmeTheBall!]

Goodell and NFL: "Let's give Hill a 2-game suspension and when Jethro objects, we'll reduce it to one game."

Two days lay-tah:

NFL: "Mr. Jones, we like you, and your protestations have made us see the errors of our ways. 1 game it is."
Jerry: "Yeah, I guess you know I can't be messed with!"

 

[GimmeTheBall!]

Some people on this board are here only to complain about the Cowboys.

Here are your pompoms.

 

[kskboys]

I just disagree with this. The Cowboys are actually pretty good at drafting players. People don't want to believe that but we really are good at it. 90% of teams in this league would love our scouting department. We drafted Hill in the 2nd round for a reason. Posters on this board think Rod ran around campus screaming "draft Hill or I'm going to detonate the bomb I planted in the basement". I don't believe that. I wonder where scouts rated Tom Brady and where he would of went if he was re-drafted. Everything draft pick can be looked at in hindsight. There is still a good chance that Hill meets or exceeds his 2nd round draft slot. He is 23.

Why are you disagreeing the majority of scouts who thought Hill was a late round pick type? I don't understand what you're trying to say here.

I think you may not have heard me. I am absolutely not using hindsight. 100% not. Is that your post is a bit convoluted, because your idea is incorrect?

Hill was not a starter in college. Think about that. Hill doesn't anchor well. Which means he doesn't stop the run well.

So, what does he have? Hill has an incredibly quick first step. So, he's worth drafting. However, everything about him says late round pick.

Exactly what do you have that says differently?

 

[kskboys]

I have to disagree with your scouting report on Hill.. He is more than a one trick pony. Twice since coming back he has chased down plays 15-20 yards down field that went away from him.. That's more than burst off the ball.. that's hustle and motor. I would also wager his pressure rate since coming back has been the highest of all the remaining DTs. He is consistently able to get around the QB.. It has been noticeable when he's not in the game because without him we have mounted little to nothing in the way of middle pressure. With him there has always been at least one guy crawling around the QB's feet. I'm not saying the guy is going to be some all pro in the future.. but I think you're selling him short.. as are a lot of people.. He obviously needs to do some growing up.. but I believe Quinn is figuring out how to get good stuff out of him.

Manalive, I hope you're right!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I don't know what to think about Hill at present. Do you think he's gotten better at anchoring? Is is still top heavy?

 

[kskboys]

He is fearless. He has a killers mentality. I like him. Too bad he plays for the Saints. He is a winner. Makes plays.If we aint careful he will gash us and beat us. He is the energizer bunny when Kamara isnt there. They rely on him alot.We have 2 stop him and Ingram then we have a chance.

Trysten. This thread is about Trysten, not Taysom.

 

[Cowpolk]

He would have been ejected from any game he was in but he did it post game so now he misses the next one. It seems completely reasonable.

It is not in line with what other players were disciplined with fine is all that should have happened