Hill: Was this Jerry Jones’ most disappointing season? He gives convoluted answer

[WPBCowboysFan]

I agree.

It took Parcells yo make the QB changes that took us from Quincy to Bledsoe to Romo.

And it came as he knew what was needed from personal experience of winning World Championships.

Garrett does not have that and Jerrah as the owner/GM is not a qualified asset to offset Garretts lack of same.

So I agree.

To let Garrett oversee this enormously important re-tooling is a mistake.

But I see Jerry sticking with it and Red is safe.

The only thing I have thot is that if we look bad enuff the last 2 games and there is enough fan outrage, maybe, just maybe the light might come on for Jerry.

And then I pinch myself and wake up to the reality of the Red love and the process.

 

[Redball Express]

But I see Jerry sticking with it and Red is safe.

The only thing I have thot is that if we look bad enuff the last 2 games and there is enough fan outrage, maybe, just maybe the light might come on for Jerry.

And then I pinch myself and wake up to the reality of the Red love and the process.

Yep.

I have pinched myself over the years until I'm black and blue.

Garrett is not perfect. But last year showed that with the right players..he is successful.

We lost too many players to injury, suspensions and lack of depth.

2014 was similar to 2007.

Few injuries and several key players had career years for us.

We regressed in 2008.

We progressed in 2009.

It's just really difficult to understand at times where luck plays a part and talent plays a part.

I always try to remember its a game and not world shaping.

 

[WPBCowboysFan]

Yep.

I have pinched myself over the years until I'm black and blue.

Garrett is not perfect. But last year showed that with the right players..he is successful.

We lost too many players to injury, suspensions and lack of depth.

2014 was similar to 2007.

Few injuries and several key players had career years for us.

We regressed in 2008.

We progressed in 2009.

It's just really difficult to understand at times where luck plays a part and talent plays a part.

I always try to remember its a game and not world shaping.

Luck/health plays a big part for sure.

But IMO you need a HC that brings something to the table to overcome SOME of those things that are pretty normal thru a season.

I was on Red's bandwagon till the last month of the 3rd consecutive 8-8 season.

Last year there was no reason to complain and we all hoped he had finally shown he was up to the task.

Sadly, this year has shown he isnt up to the task of being a HC in the NFL that will be a difference maker. Romo and Dez and the other injuries are significant, but that isnt his fault. The lack of creativity, adjustment, and overall ineptness just shows that 8-8, 8-8, 8-8, werent just misfortune or bad luck. Even if we had still lost all the games this year that we lost I'd be fine with it if we had seen some coaching or creativity. Its not that we lost, but how we lost that says a lot.

In a bottom line business, at some point a coach needs to just get it done and cant just be excused for 4 out of 5 years because of injures or bad luck.

This situation with Red is like a relationship that you know you need to get out of, but have a hard time because it has some really good things, but ultimately you know it will never be the "ONE" no matter how much time you give it.

 

[dallasdave]

Luck/health plays a big part for sure.

But IMO you need a HC that brings something to the table to overcome SOME of those things that are pretty normal thru a season.

I was on Red's bandwagon till the last month of the 3rd consecutive 8-8 season.

Last year there was no reason to complain and we all hoped he had finally shown he was up to the task.

Sadly, this year has shown he isnt up to the task of being a HC in the NFL that will be a difference maker. Romo and Dez and the other injuries are significant, but that isnt his fault. The lack of creativity, adjustment, and overall ineptness just shows that 8-8, 8-8, 8-8, werent just misfortune or bad luck. Even if we had still lost all the games this year that we lost I'd be fine with it if we had seen some coaching or creativity. Its not that we lost, but how we lost that says a lot.

In a bottom line business, at some point a coach needs to just get it done and cant just be excused for 4 out of 5 years because of injures or bad luck.

This situation with Red is like a relationship that you know you need to get out of, but have a hard time because it has some really good things, but ultimately you know it will never be the "ONE" no matter how much time you give it.

We need a coach who can win the Super Bowl.

 

[WPBCowboysFan]

We need a coach who can win the Super Bowl.

"NEED" is right .. . . . . cuz we aint got one now!

 

[ElGatoGrande]

It's going to be a long off-season reading this board's drivel,,,

 

[dallasdave]

"NEED" is right .. . . . . cuz we aint got one now!

How True and How Sad

 

[Redball Express]

The pass rush when werks much better when you can score points Offensively.

And the pass rush works alot better when the offense is controling time of possession like last year..

leaving the other team less time to score and having to push the ball up field to catch up or win.

Its just a completely different scenerio rhe moment Romo went down.

No way was the defense good enough with Scandrick, McClain and Hardy out plus the other defensive injuries.

We all knew this or should have.

 

[WPBCowboysFan]

It's going to be a long off-season reading this board's drivel,,,

You can say that again. The few Red supporters that arent willing to admit they were wrong will keep pumping the s u n red s h i n e and offering the red kool aid for anybody foolish enough to still take a drink.

 

[dallasdave]

You can say that again. The few Red supporters that arent willing to admit they were wrong will keep pumping the s u n red s h i n e and offering the red kool aid for anybody foolish enough to still take a drink.

The Kool-Aid has gone bad !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[ElGatoGrande]

You can say that again. The few Red supporters that arent willing to admit they were wrong will keep pumping the s u n red s h i n e and offering the red kool aid for anybody foolish enough to still take a drink.

The babe in your avatar is the only thing saving you from "Ignore",,,,

 

[BAT]

Yep.

I have pinched myself over the years until I'm black and blue.

Garrett is not perfect. But last year showed that with the right players..he is successful.

We lost too many players to injury, suspensions and lack of depth.

2014 was similar to 2007.

Few injuries and several key players had career years for us.

We regressed in 2008.

We progressed in 2009.

It's just really difficult to understand at times where luck plays a part and talent plays a part.

I always try to remember its a game and not world shaping.

Switzer was also successful with right players. Teams should be able to win with the help of their head coach, not in spite of him.

 

[SilverStarCowboy]

And the pass rush works alot better when the offense is controling time of possession like last year..

leaving the other team less time to score and having to push the ball up field to catch up or win.

Its just a completely different scenerio rhe moment Romo went down.

No way was the defense good enough with Scandrick, McClain and Hardy out plus the other defensive injuries.

We all knew this or should have.

No, I have to disagree. Watch Carolina, that is called a TEAM, not just three or four guys making all the difference. COACHING AS WELL.

 

[Redball Express]

Switzer was also successful with right players. Teams should be able to win with the help of their head coach, not in spite of him.

I look at it differently.

I do not think Garrett isn't capable.

Like every other coach we have had since Jerrah bought the team..

Jerrah has the final say and he uses it.

Last year..he was a GM of the year.

We all praised his changes and front office decisions..

now Garrett and he are idiots again.

I don't think so.

You can not plan for all eventualities and you will not win when about 25-40 % of your starters are either injured or suspended.

That is the issue.

Things happened and the results speak for themselves.

I do not blame the coaches.

These were the same guys we all wanted re-signed becuz 2014 was so successful.

Jerrah did it at the fans command.

Now everybody wants change again.

We don"t need more upheaval. We need learning from the mistakes and new talent and more experience with our players we have.

Nothing is worth achieving without struggle.

This year will pass and we will improve.

Doubters can flee.

No me.

 

[KJJ]

Jerry has been though so many disappointing seasons it would be very difficult for him or even the fans to pick the most disappointing season. For me the 07 season was the most disappointing because the Cowboys tied a franchise record with 13 wins finishing as the #1 seed and went one and out in the playoffs losing to a divisional rival they beat twice that season. To add insult to injury the Giants went on to win the SB. No season bothered me more than the 07 season it was a blown opportunity.

 

[KJJ]

We need a coach who can win the Super Bowl.

We need a coach who can consistently get the team to the playoffs to have a good chance to even reach the SB. You would have to go all the way back to Barry Switzer to find a Cowboys HC who won back to back playoff games.

 

[SilverStarCowboy]

The mentality of football that is represented around the NFL for teams like Greenbay, New England, Seattle, Arizona, Pittsburgh, New York and juep even CAROLINA will prohibit a lesser culture from success for many more decades of seasons to come.

 

[BAT]

I look at it differently.

I do not think Garrett isn't capable.

Like every other coach we have had since Jerrah bought the team..

Jerrah has the final say and he uses it.

Last year..he was a GM of the year.

We all praised his changes and front office decisions..

now Garrett and he are idiots again.

I don't think so.

You can not plan for all eventualities and you will not win when about 25-40 % of your starters are either injured or suspended.

That is the issue.

Things happened and the results speak for themselves.

I do not blame the coaches.

These were the same guys we all wanted re-signed becuz 2014 was so successful.

Jerrah did it at the fans command.

Now everybody wants change again.

We don"t need more upheaval. We need learning from the mistakes and new talent and more experience with our players we have.

Nothing is worth achieving without struggle.

This year will pass and we will improve.

Doubters can flee.

No me.

Just because I don't agree with your conclusion about Jason Garrett, I'm going to flee? Quite a reach there Redball. I'm a fan of the Dallas Cowboys, not necessarily t he coach.

As for being patient, which is really the outlier, last year's 12-4 season or the previous THREE seasons of 8-8. Cowboys current 4 win season just brings Jason back to the mean. The guy is the epitome of average.

How many assistant coaches has he jettisoned but results stay the same? Must we go a FULL decade of mediocrity before we can say enough is enough?

 

[NoLuv4Jerry]

Here's a VERY troubling aspect of his answer: he's blaming the defense, rather than the offense, for this team's performance.

He is shockingly out of touch.

He's blaming the defense because that is what Garrett did. Lack of turnovers is the biggest difference between last year and this year in Garrett mind.

Every game we had a chance to win this year...the offense hung the defense out to dry. Usually with the defense unable to hold a 12 - 9 lead...as if 12 points should be enough to win in 2015!

 

[khiladi]

Once again, blaming it on the defense.. Jerry Jones has failed to see any that no opposing offense is going to feel threatened playing it risky against our defense, because our offense can't score..

And BTW, our offense gives the ball back at close to 30 TOs so far.. So let me get this straight? The defense is a problem in that it can't create TOs, but your offense isn't a problem when it commits TOs at such a pace?

It was the same during Wade's tenure here as it is now...

Garrett is your problem Jerry..