Honestly, who felt that Hutch was better than

[Nors]

What agenda is that?

If by agenda you mean pointing out the truely stupid, then yes I have an agenda.

If by agenda you mean I'd like to see a QB that is more than average, then yes I have an agenda.

If by agenda you mean pointing out the rampant hypocrisy that your side shows, then yes I have an agenda.

Which agenda is it? Because they all fit within this thread.

Parcells likes Carter, Carter won the job and Chad is the 5th string QB. CHAD = BYE BYE. Carter has the starting job again after he EARNS it. Whats it going to be next year? Henson/Vinnie suck?

 

[MichaelWinicki]

Parcells likes Carter, Carter won the job and Chad is the 5th string QB. CHAD = BYE BYE. Carter has the starting job again after he EARNS it. Whats it going to be next year? Henson/Vinnie suck?

Henson/Vinnie suck? You must mean after Q is jetisoned after this season.

 

[ghst187]

But Quincy had another new system and an OC and owner out to get him.

Are you talking about the very same owner that drafted Q? That doesn't make much sense.
amazing how q "people" throw out all these excuses for q's crummy play, incompetence and noodle arm yet continue to bash Hutch who played under the exact same circumstances.
I admit to wanting Hutch in there this past season. Everyone knows he has a MUCH better arm and can throw pretty accurately. He definitely didn't come around in NFLE like I thought he would, still too many fumbles and not enough presence. Of course, if anyone thinks Carter would've done better in NFLE than Hutch is ********. Carter wouldn't have had a coach babying him, scaling back the playbook, managing the clock for him, and a top rated defense making it only necessary to score 10-17 points per game to win.
I really have no idea why people so violently back q. The only reason people like me dislike him so much is because his backers continue to shove it in our face and boldy claim that q is a great qb when the only person that agrees with them is donovan mcnabb. Meanwhile, his stats radically say something different. Hopefully we won't have to endure a full year of q as now we have some more viable and promising options. I imagine this will be the last season for q and then half the people on this board will go awol.

 

[Nav22]

There is no point in posting about how Carter "will be gone" after this year.

And to be fair, there's no point in posting how he'll be a Pro Bowler after this year too.

None of us have any ideas. We do know, however, that he is most likely our starter this year, and he DOES have the potential to be a good QB. Instead of hating on him or any other Cowboys QB, why don't we support them and hope they can all reach their highest level of potential possible?

"Quincy sucks!" "Chad's a bum!" "Henson's a bust!" "Vinny's a fossil!" "Romo's a homo!" (OK, I haven't seen anyone say that, but you get the point).

It's getting old. We're Cowboys fans, why don't we all start acting like it?

I'm completely baffled when I see posts that are completely bashing/making fun of one of our guys. Did you guys make fun of Superman's outfit when you were little kids, or did you cheer him on for saving people's lives?

(No, I'm not saying we have "Superman" on our roster, and I know one of you is dying to post "Well, when we get Superman on our team, I won't make fun of him!" ...I'm just saying our QBs are ALL the "good guys", and we should treat them as such)

Of course, if anyone thinks Carter would've done better in NFLE than Hutch is ********.

Hmm..I guess I'm ********.

I must be ******** to think our starter could outplay our 4th-5th stringer who's getting cut sometime before training camp starts.

 

[iceberg]

?????????????nice????????????

cool. i'm not on ignore yet. that makes me so very happy.

 

[ghst187]

There is no point in posting about how Carter "will be gone" after this year.

And to be fair, there's no point in posting how he'll be a Pro Bowler after this year too.

None of us have any ideas. We do know, however, that he is most likely our starter this year, and he DOES have the potential to be a good QB. Instead of hating on him or any other Cowboys QB, why don't we support them and hope they can all reach their highest level of potential possible?

"Quincy sucks!" "Chad's a bum!" "Henson's a bust!" "Vinny's a fossil!" "Romo's a homo!" (OK, I haven't seen anyone say that, but you get the point).

It's getting old. We're Cowboys fans, why don't we all start acting like it?

I'm completely baffled when I see posts that are completely bashing/making fun of one of our guys. Did you guys make fun of Superman's outfit when you were little kids, or did you cheer him on for saving people's lives?

(No, I'm not saying we have "Superman" on our roster, and I know one of you is dying to post "Well, when we get Superman on our team, I won't make fun of him!" ...I'm just saying our QBs are ALL the "good guys", and we should treat them as such)



Hmm..I guess I'm ********.

your post proves it

 

[Nors]

Are you talking about the very same owner that drafted Q? That doesn't make much sense.
amazing how q "people" throw out all these excuses for q's crummy play, incompetence and noodle arm yet continue to bash Hutch who played under the exact same circumstances.
I admit to wanting Hutch in there this past season. Everyone knows he has a MUCH better arm and can throw pretty accurately. He definitely didn't come around in NFLE like I thought he would, still too many fumbles and not enough presence. Of course, if anyone thinks Carter would've done better in NFLE than Hutch is ********. Carter wouldn't have had a coach babying him, scaling back the playbook, managing the clock for him, and a top rated defense making it only necessary to score 10-17 points per game to win.
I really have no idea why people so violently back q. The only reason people like me dislike him so much is because his backers continue to shove it in our face and boldy claim that q is a great qb when the only person that agrees with them is donovan mcnabb. Meanwhile, his stats radically say something different. Hopefully we won't have to endure a full year of q as now we have some more viable and promising options. I imagine this will be the last season for q and then half the people on this board will go awol.

No Chad accountability for not being able to handle Parcells? Failing in Europe? 1/2 this board will not go anywhere.

 

[Nav22]

your post proves it

Poor guy. I guess you haven't gotten over Chad's failures yet.

You've just made my list of board members whose face I'm going to COMPLETELY rub it in if Quincy has a break-out year.

 

[jimmy40]

Poor guy. I guess you haven't gotten over Chad's failures yet.

You've just made my list of board members whose face I'm going to COMPLETELY rub it in if Quincy has a break-out year.

IF? Obviously you have all the faith in the world in QC and you surely deserve to rub it in someone's face IF QC has a breakout year. Way to show some backbone there big guy.

 

[Kangaroo]

Man so much hype was crammed down are throat abut Chad even with his layoff he was the best thing since sliced bread

Everyone states Chad is accurate but he had a 50% completion his rookie year where is his accuracy.

I digress Chad should not have started his rookie year his rust show and he went into a spiral when Parcells came in.

Chad may still become a good QB it will most likely be with another team (See Rich Gannon)

Now we have the Henson hype and people are ready to stick him in to soon because they hate QC I rather the QB that has been away from the game 3 almost 4 years with 8 college starts not to be rushed. Let him develop when he is ready he will start

See Jerry went out and got Banks then cut him and started QC who was not ready

Instead of Banks Jerry should have gotten Dilfer that year which I stated in my post durning that time period but oh no he went after someone who was not a hardworker and cut him and rushed a QB who should not have saw the field the his 1st year except for preseason. Then the coslet stuff happened and the az stuff and Hutch was rushed when he was not ready.

So now because Jerry drafted QC in the bottom of the 2nd round almost 3rd round and he is not Aikman or Staurbach and he was a reach to some he is hated by the cowboy fandom.

So it is easy this is all Jerry's fault for hiring a poodle and forcing 2 qb's into the starting lineup when they where not ready

 

[Nav22]

IF? Obviously you have all the faith in the world in QC and you surely deserve to rub it in someone's face IF QC has a breakout year. Way to show some backbone there big guy.

Yes, "if." I'm not a psychic. What if Quincy gets hurt? What if the running game/O-line struggle immensely?

And where did I say I had all the faith in the world in QC? I do think he'll have a break-out year, but I wouldn't bet my life on it.

I'm just saying that IF he does indeed have a break-out year, I'm going to rub it in the faces of everyone who thought he was a complete loser who didn't belong in the NFL.

Get a grip.

 

[iceberg]

I'm just saying that IF he does indeed have a break-out year, I'm going to rub it in the faces of everyone who thought he was a complete loser who didn't belong in the NFL.

other than telling everyone you're 12 years old, what would this do for you? and *if* it doesn't happen, how do you want people to treat you? i'll bet NOT rubbing your face in it.

is it really that hard to be respectful of someone else, dude?

 

[Nors]

Yes, "if." I'm not a psychic. What if Quincy gets hurt? What if the running game/O-line struggle immensely?

And where did I say I had all the faith in the world in QC? I do think he'll have a break-out year, but I wouldn't bet my life on it.

I'm just saying that IF he does indeed have a break-out year, I'm going to rub it in the faces of everyone who thought he was a complete loser who didn't belong in the NFL.

Get a grip.

Carter rookie year = he scared the crap out of me

2nd year = I was still skeptical, after watching Hutch - I was back to Quincy camp.

3rd year under Parcells - I was cautious but optimistic about Carter. I see improvement. No more one hoppers , fluttering ducks. He responded to Parcells pressure and was the bus driver on a 10-6 playoff team.

This year I have confidence in Carter. I'm rooting for the kid because he is our only chance to win big this season. If 41 year old Vinnie or Drew Baseball are starting the fat lady sang.

 

[MichaelWinicki]

Carter rookie year = he scared the crap out of me

2nd year = I was still skeptical, after watching Hutch - I was back to Quincy camp.

3rd year under Parcells - I was cautious but optimistic about Carter. I see improvement. No more one hoppers , fluttering ducks. He responded to Parcells pressure and was the bus driver on a 10-6 playoff team.

This year I have confidence in Carter. I'm rooting for the kid because he is our only chance to win big this season. If 41 year old Vinnie or Drew Baseball are starting the fat lady sang.

And in Carter's 5th year he's no longer the starter for the Dallas Cowboys.

 

[iceberg]

Carter rookie year = he scared the crap out of me

2nd year = I was still skeptical, after watching Hutch - I was back to Quincy camp.

3rd year under Parcells - I was cautious but optimistic about Carter. I see improvement. No more one hoppers , fluttering ducks. He responded to Parcells pressure and was the bus driver on a 10-6 playoff team.

This year I have confidence in Carter. I'm rooting for the kid because he is our only chance to win big this season. If 41 year old Vinnie or Drew Baseball are starting the fat lady sang.

no more one hoppers? no more "ducks"? you sure you were watching the cowboys, dude? they were there. parcells doesn't say "throw better" or "quit one-hopping the ball" and they suddenly go away.

gee, i wish someone else would have told him to quit it long ago.

 

[Bill the Butcher]

Carter rookie year = he scared the crap out of me

2nd year = I was still skeptical, after watching Hutch - I was back to Quincy camp.

3rd year under Parcells - I was cautious but optimistic about Carter. I see improvement. No more one hoppers , fluttering ducks. He responded to Parcells pressure and was the bus driver on a 10-6 playoff team.

This year I have confidence in Carter. I'm rooting for the kid because he is our only chance to win big this season. If 41 year old Vinnie or Drew Baseball are starting the fat lady sang.

I dont agree whatsoever. If BP and co can build an offence to suit the inaccurate impulse decision making, int throwing Carter they can surely do it for Vinny OR Henson! This oline stuff is a bunch of Carter hogwash too! Look at how many times Vinnys been sacked compared to Q. Vinny wins! What, Vinnys more mobile than Q? NO, its all about reading and reacting quickly! Look up how many times Vick has been sacked. Did you know that as rookies during the same 9 game stretch vick was sacked MORE than HUTCH!???Bet not. And Hutches line was WORSE. WAY WORSE. Kinda shoots the whole o line theory to helllll and back now doesnt it? Coarse, you KNOW that anyway. Just more mindless propaganda!............GET REAL

 

[junk]

I am not a big fan of Carter, but I seriously doubt he gets jettisoned before his contract expires. He is playing on his rookie contract which is dirt cheap. Even if someone else beats him out for the starting position, where are you going to find a veteran with the ability to step in for a few games at a time for the same price as QC?

Personally, I think this is where he could excel and have a long career in the NFL.

 

[Bill the Butcher]

I dont agree whatsoever. If BP and co can build an offence to suit the inaccurate impulse decision making, int throwing Carter they can surely do it for Vinny OR Henson! This oline stuff is a bunch of Carter hogwash too! Look at how many times Vinnys been sacked compared to Q. Vinny wins! What, Vinnys more mobile than Q? NO, its all about reading and reacting quickly! Look up how many times Vick has been sacked. Did you know that as rookies during the same 9 game stretch vick was sacked MORE than HUTCH!???Bet not. And Hutches line was WORSE. WAY WORSE. Kinda shoots the whole o line theory to helllll and back now doesnt it? Coarse, you KNOW that anyway. Just more mindless propaganda!............GET REAL

Mike Vick.....SACKED 23 times in 113 attempts as a rookie. Hutch the stiff who hadnt played football in FOUR YEARS sacked 34 times in 250 attempts! Lets see now, if Vick had dropped back 250 times he would have had roughly FIFTYFOUR SACKS!!!LMAO! YUP, MOBILITY is sure the key to not being sacked LOL. Look up the FACTS once. Why dont you look up mr mobile Brad Johnsons stats and see how often he gets sacked per dropback. Might suprize you. ENUFF with the oline fairy tale O.K. Its about the head, NOT THE LEGS. FACTS prove it GOTCHA...LOL

 

[InParcellsWetrust]

I thought the worst mistake we made in 2002 was benching Carter and letting Hutchinson start at QB, IMO Hutch was never better then Quincy

 

[Nav22]

other than telling everyone you're 12 years old, what would this do for you? and *if* it doesn't happen, how do you want people to treat you? i'll bet NOT rubbing your face in it.

is it really that hard to be respectful of someone else, dude?

Way to be completely hypocritical. You talk about how I'm being disrespectful, yet you call me "12 years old" and constantly insult our QBs.

What does talking sh** about our QBs and making fun of them do for you? Are you even a Cowboys fan?

If Carter doesn't have his break-through season, there won't be any reason to rub it in my face. I'm not saying he's DEFINITELY having a great season. I'm not saying he's DEFINITELY our franchise QB.

That's the difference. You guys talk like you already know the outcome of his career. I DON'T.

And people with that kind of attitude deserve to have it rubbed in their faces if Quincy proves them wrong. If you have the nerve to act like you're a near-psychic expert on our QB situation, you better expect to have it thrown back in your face if you're wrong.

Of course, if people can graciously accept that they were wrong about Carter, I won't need to throw it back in their face. But considering how this Hutchinson thread has gone (tons of people who called Carter a complete bum compared to Chad before last year, but not fessing up to that today), I'm sure there will be plenty of ABCers avoiding the backlash after this year if Quincy performs well.

I realize I'm just a fan who doesn't know as much as our coaching staff about our QBs. You guys claim Carter is surely a life-long mediocre QB, essentially saying that you know more about him than the coaches who seem to like him enough to start him...again.

I wonder why Parcells is giving him another year...all he has to do is ask you guys how Carter will do!