How bad are we going to be?

[Risen Star]

Honestly, I haven't predicted so few wins since the Campo era.

The deterioration of the Parcells core continues. We are almost right back from where we started.

Who would have thought returning to the failed structure of the past wouldn't work?

 

[Stash]

And you are giving expectation just negative since until they actually play it is a guess by both of us.

I feel that my position is better substantiated by evidence over hopes. Fact is that a league-worst defense lost its' top three players and replaced all of them with question marks.

I think we can both agree this is not going to be a league leading defense only part we disagree on is I think this unit will show themselves as better than the worst defense in Cowboys history that played last season. I don't expect this defense to be great I think they will struggle but I also think they will do better than last year. I think there will be more stability within the group as opposed to last season. I think some guys coming off a bad year are looking to turn their own performances around and I expect to see them do so. I don't think claiming this unit will be better than last season is a stretch I think it is quite possible and yes I expect them to do so. As I mention earlier, I don’t care about yards given up, I don’t care if were we rank sack wise what I do care about is the defense giving up fewer points than the 27 a game avg they gave up last season. Cowboys will not be able to rely on a star player on defense to make things happen they will have to play as a single unit to get it done. I think Rod can get them to do so.

For the record, I hope you're right, but all tangible evidence suggests otherwise.

 

[TheDude]

In case anyone is keeping score besides me:

 

[ScipioCowboy]

quit does not mean one won't watch, quit by not giving the team a chance to play to see how they will play
I say 8-8, as I always said, until they prove me otherwise "on the field"

And I wasn't accusing anyone of quitting, it was meant in context as to all the 3 to 5 win choices.

Just so we're clear....

Predicting 8-8 and likely no playoffs isn't "quitting." However, predicting 5-11 and likely no playoffs is quitting. Right?

 

[cajuncocoa]

I'm going to predict 5-11 and hope they prove me wrong.

 

[Idgit]

I'm going to predict 5-11 and hope they prove me wrong.

And hurt our draft position in the process? Pshaw.

 

[rpntex]

In case anyone is keeping score besides me:

Actually, I didn't "predict" anything. I said I could see anywhere from 5-11 to 11-5. It all rides on the DL, and we've yet to see out starting front 4 in action.

If you really want a prediction, I'll base my guess on the premise that Melton and T McClain stay healthy, that Spencer and Lawrence come back relatively soon, and that the Cowboys come through the first four games at 2-2. Put my "official" prognostication down at 9-7.

 

[Reverend Conehead]

This is a 6 and 10 team. I wish I were wrong, but I'm right.

 

[TheDude]

Actually, I didn't "predict" anything. I said I could see anywhere from 5-11 to 11-5. It all rides on the DL, and we've yet to see out starting front 4 in action.

If you really want a prediction, I'll base my guess on the premise that Melton and T McClain stay healthy, that Spencer and Lawrence come back relatively soon, and that the Cowboys come through the first four games at 2-2. Put my "official" prognostication down at 9-7.

will do. i averaged your range...now i'll add 1 win

 

[ccb04]

Tough to say really.

Last season...despite the historically bad defense, very similar staff, injuries, etc...they still had a chance to win the division, went 5-1 in the division, & the offense was the 5th highest scoring in the league. Add to that, they lost 5 games by a combined 8 points (three 1 point losses, one 2 point loss, and one 3 point loss).

Despite injuring his back in the game vs. the Skins...Romo still scrambled well enough to avoid pressure & toss the game-winning TD. They have a pro bowl RB, a HOF worthy TE, one of the top WR's in the league, a solid #2, a sneaky slot option, and an O-Line that could wind up being among the better in the league. I think the offense has a chance to be in the top 5-7 in scoring again minus injuries.

As far as the defense, they aren't going to be very good. That said, even minor improvement in a couple of areas like 3rd down efficiency & turnovers would help. Forcing a single key punt (which they didn't do in 2 1/2 games last season), could help win them a game. Will also be curious to see how things shape up when guys like Spencer, Lawrence, McClain, etc. return. A guy like Brent could help improve the run defense if/when he's added. They can use all of the help they can get.

 

[Wezsh0T]

I'm thinking 7-9 or 9-7...therefore 8-8 for the fourth straight season...

 

[Big D]

I believe we will win 9 or 10 games and take the division.

 

[Pabst]

Same prediction as all offseason. 8-8 until proven otherwise.

 

[Sarge]

7-9... until further notice.

Agreed.

 

[CCBoy]

It's not a crime for a fan to have emotions...but one should really start to worry when you don't.

 

[Brooksey]

We have been a mediocre team that has regressed while most of the league has gotten better. Even if you are just standing still, the rest of the league will pass you by. And we have been going backwards.

I know this thread seems harsh. But, Im not complaining actually. I am also not going to stop being a fan. I am just resolved to the fact that there is a decent chance the Cowboys won't win another championship in the next 20 years. Seriously.

Three years of 8-8...I wouldn't call that regressing but certainly a lack of progress.

No championship for the next 20 years? LOL, why are you here wasting your time?

 

[Brooksey]

No we are not. We are a below average team with no depth. Our in-game coaching is sub-par, our QB is oldish and less mobile. We have a decent OL, in theory, a decent receiving corps, in theory and an average running back. Our defense was one of the worst in history last year and is missing 3 of its best players from that squad.

I know we want to believe. But this thread is about talking the truth.

Actually we are an average team with depth. We lack starting talent on the defensive line.

Get it right if you're gonna beat you're chest.

That is the truth...can you handle it? Ya know......

 

[TheDude]

Took out Doomsday101 out as he predicted 5-1 in the division. Included most recent projection

 

[ilovejerry]

Let us not beat around the bush here. We have been a mediocre team that has regressed while most of the league has gotten better. Even if you are just standing still, the rest of the league will pass you by. And we have been going backwards.

So, how bad are we going to be? I think 4 to 5 wins tops. I think the team will play hard for the coach. I think Romo is past his prime, can't move like he once did and is no longer a top tier quarterback. I think the defense will be horrible, albiet probably not as statistically as bad as last year, because the offense wont force our opponents to attack us as much to beat us.

I think Garrett is gone after this year. I think our scouting department, however, is one of our real weaknesses, but our owner continues to trust the same old geezers hes had for 100 years.

Speaking of our owner, I think he is entering senility. Not to be harsh, but I expect decisions to get worse from here on out. I think Jerry as to the point where he is ok with losing, as long as the franchise becomes more valuable. Hes happy with his investment. But all the testosterone and vitality that led to those 90s championships, that is all gone now.

Stephen is a muppet of his father, so I don't see much changing there. Even when Jerry passes, Stephen will run the team in the same, "owner knows best," philosophy.

I know this thread seems harsh. But, Im not complaining actually. I am also not going to stop being a fan. I am just resolved to the fact that there is a decent chance the Cowboys won't win another championship in the next 20 years. Seriously.

4-12 without even looking at schedule but it may go to the last game and blow it again. so maybe 9-7

 

[Doomsday]

I want to say 7 wins but I think 6-10 is more likely. I bet 4 of those wins are in the division as well.