How can anyone defend these coaches?

[Doomsday101]

did you not see the posts by hoofbite about our running and passing tendencies out of specific formations?

did you not read the post by another poster that the vikings play by play announcers were saying that vikings players on the sideline were calling out our plays?

a couple of seasons ago ray lewis and ed reed said the same thing before the game

this is not a one game issue

how much more evidence do we need? how many more years of spinning our wheels before we admit that RHG runs a predictable offense?

Did you see them lose? Yeah they knew the plays so well that Romo put up over 300 yards and drove the field to put up winning TD? LOL wow I'm impressed with Vikes so called knowing our plays. In terms of running and passing Vikes front is their strenght on defense not their secondary if you attack you attack a weakness not a strenght. No doubt I would love to be able to run the ball better but no way am I in favor of running for the sake of running only to find ourselfs in long down and distance because we were getting stuffed.

In terms of Garrett as I said failure of execution falls not only to player but to the coaches

 

[dallasdave]

Is Tony's arm going to fall off from having to pass every down?

I hope not, then Jason Garrett might want to quarterback again and activate himself to the roster.

 

[BoysFan4ever]

I hope not, then Jason Garrett might want to quarterback again and activate himself to the roster.

That Lions game he didn't seem to have much velocity in his passes but I'm not one of those fans that know much about what NFL QB's have super zip in their passes or not.

He throws a lot. I was just tossing that question out as a serious one. Will that ever really affect his arm strength?

 

[dallasdave]

That Lions game he didn't seem to have much velocity in his passes but I'm not one of those fans that know much about what NFL QB's have super zip in their passes or not.

He throws a lot. I was just tossing that question out as a serious one. Will that ever really affect his arm strength?

As long as Romo does not get hurt he should be ok, he can rest his arm part of the week.

 

[jobberone]

did you not see the posts by hoofbite about our running and passing tendencies out of specific formations?

did you not read the post by another poster that the vikings play by play announcers were saying that vikings players on the sideline were calling out our plays?

a couple of seasons ago ray lewis and ed reed said the same thing before the game

this is not a one game issue

how much more evidence do we need? how many more years of spinning our wheels before we admit that RHG runs a predictable offense?

Now this is something that does need discussion.

 

[dallasdave]

Hey, this thread is just getting started.

 

[Stash]

Again you deliberately ignored the data choosing to stick to your 7.8 Y/C when he got 27 on one run and basically the other runs were 1 yd or less. The figures are in a post above that I took the time to ferret out for you and all. You're spinning now because the data doesn't support your argument.

Not spinning anything at all. Murray managed 31 yards on 4 carries.

You can't spin that as a negative in any rational way.

 

[dallasdave]

Not spinning anything at all. Murray managed 31 yards on 4 carries.

You can't spin that as a negative in any rational way.

Should have kept running Murray, but hey that's a coaching decision.

 

[Stash]

Should have kept running Murray, but hey that's a coaching decision.

At least several more attempts for him.

4 carries is inexcusable and indefensible.

No player would be able to prove anything either way with so few opportunities.

Any this team will never be able to perform in the key area of rushing if they never even try.

 

[dallasdave]

At least several more attempts for him.

4 carries is inexcusable and indefensible.

No player would be able to prove anything either way with so few opportunities.

Any this team will never be able to perform in the key area of rushing if they never even try.

Totally agree, Murray looked good when he got the chance. Now chance is the key word here, since he didn't much of one.

 

[jobberone]

Not spinning anything at all. Murray managed 31 yards on 4 carries.

You can't spin that as a negative in any rational way.

So he averages 1 yd a run except for one 27 yd run and the rest of the gang averages minus yardage and you want to pound the ball into the teeth of what appeared to be run blitzing? And many people are saying it appears they knew what we were running and when we were running. I can see Garrett now saying, "Keep pounding the rock guys. Every tenth carry we might break another one for 20 or 30. In the meantime it doesn't matter that we're three and out."

 

[Stash]

So he averages 1 yd a run except for one 27 yd run and the rest of the gang averages minus yardage and you want to pound the ball into the teeth of what appeared to be run blitzing? And many people are saying it appears they knew what we were running and when we were running. I can see Garrett now saying, "Keep pounding the rock guys. Every tenth carry we might break another one for 20 or 30. In the meantime it doesn't matter that we're three and out."

Yeah, because apparently here in Bizarroland, a 27 yard run gets discounted while 3 1 - yarders?

Oh yeah, those count!

Hilarity!

Only in 8-8 land do we find any excuse - however lame it may be - to abandon the run.

 

[jobberone]

Yeah, because apparently here in Bizarroland, a 27 yard run gets discounted while 3 1 - yarders?

Oh yeah, those count!

Hilarity!

Only in 8-8 land do we find any excuse - however lame it may be - to abandon the run.

It's not discounted at all. The median is a better stat first of all. And it's not hard to understand that roughly 1 run in ten was successful. The fact he got 27 on that one is irrelevant to the fact that they were stonewalling the run game; all but one run. You only get so many offensive possessions a game. You can't hope the run game eventually gets off the ground and waste two or three offensive possessions. Not when it appears they are not just stonewalling the run but know when you're going to run and even where the ball is going. That may or may not be true but it should be obvious we couldn't run the ball against them nor against most teams and they were at the very least run blitzing and coming downhill on the run. Esp with our defense.

My last post to you as it's obvious you'll go down with the ship rather than even look at any reason why the Cowboys didn't run the ball but Garrett is stupid yada. No you and your little posse would rather mock anyone who doesn't have your narrow point of view on this subject.

I'm out of here as even silent majority don't need either you or me repeating ourselves on this matter any further. I've explained it so most can understand.

 

[Stash]

It's not discounted at all. The median is a better stat first of all. And it's not hard to understand that roughly 1 run in ten was successful. The fact he got 27 on that one is irrelevant to the fact that they were stonewalling the run game; all but one run. You only get so many offensive possessions a game. You can't hope the run game eventually gets off the ground and waste two or three offensive possessions. Not when it appears they are not just stonewalling the run but know when you're going to run and even where the ball is going. That may or may not be true but it should be obvious we couldn't run the ball against them nor against most teams and they were at the very least run blitzing and coming downhill on the run. Esp with our defense.

If this is the Cowboys' crazy criteria for success, they will never run the ball successfully again.

And no, it wasn't 'obvious' to anyone other than you and Dumb and Dumber - as in Garrett and Callahan.

Any other team would be thrilled when their starting running back had 31 yards after 4 carries, but not in Dallas! "Pack it in boys, we can't run against this 'wall'"

My last post to you as it's obvious you'll go down with the ship rather than even look at any reason why the Cowboys didn't run the ball but Garrett is stupid yada. No you and your little posse would rather mock anyone who doesn't have your narrow point of view on this subject.

Spare me the victim card. I'm having a discussion on this topic, not mocking you. I have respect for the energy and enthusiasm you've brought here, even if I wholeheartedly disagree with the case you're trying to make.

I'm out of here as even silent majority don't need either you or me repeating ourselves on this matter any further. I've explained it so most can understand.

Fair enough, thanks for the spirited debate!

 

[dallasdave]

Now we need to find the next Jimmy Johnson so we can get this team back on top. Let the search begin.

 

[Idgit]

That Lions game he didn't seem to have much velocity in his passes but I'm not one of those fans that know much about what NFL QB's have super zip in their passes or not.

He throws a lot. I was just tossing that question out as a serious one. Will that ever really affect his arm strength?

I thought so, too. A lot of wobbly passes if they had to travel far in the air. I think he's probably playing through some discomfort again. That first Fairley hit was pretty significant.

 

[jobberone]

I think I can tell when he's off either physically or just not throwing well. The latter isn't common.

 

[big dog cowboy]

I thought so, too. A lot of wobbly passes if they had to travel far in the air. I think he's probably playing through some discomfort again. That first Fairley hit was pretty significant.

I mentioned this a couple of times last week but have not seen any reports of any injury.

 

[BoysFan4ever]

I thought so, too. A lot of wobbly passes if they had to travel far in the air. I think he's probably playing through some discomfort again. That first Fairley hit was pretty significant.

Yea I laughed out loud when the stats showed that guy Fairley as just over 300 lbs. He's huge & I bet way over 300 lbs. can't feel good having that fat guy smashing you in the ground.

 

[Idgit]

I mentioned this a couple of times last week but have not seen any reports of any injury.

Yeah. I think Romo plays through a lot of unreported stuff that just goes beneath the radar. He's not debilitated, but he doesn't seem as spry or quite as sharp as he usually does. And the passes are behind the receivers again, which I think happens when his delivery is slowed by discomfort. I'm just spitballing, but it makes sense given the hits he took in that DET game.