How did Wade Phillips get fired so quickly?

[xwalker]

Wade Phillips was 34-22 as coach of the Dallas Cowboys.

He had one terrible year but was always above .500 each of his three previous years.

Jason Garrett has never had back to back years above .500.

In 7 years as head coach has only gone to the playoffs twice and is 1-2 in playoff games...

Stunned that Jason Garrett is still the head coach and I'm stunned that he still has apologist out there. His win percentage is much lower than Wade Phillips'. And while he has the same playoff record as Garrett, he won as many division titles as Garret in half the time.

The defense completely quit on Wade.

He was a terrible head coach here and with other teams.

 

[khiladi]

Btw, our offense started showing signs that Garrett’s passing game was figured out in 2007, when TO got the high ankle sprain. They tried to get Romo a passing record the last game of the season against the woeful Commanders and they only needed a few yards, but they couldn’t get anything done and finally took Romo out to protect him.

Even the pass to Crayton which he drppped, that was one where Romo effectively bought a lot of time going left and Crayton has broken his route because the play broke down.

And as years progressed, we started becoming the bottom teams in red zone scoring, but Garrett defenders kept throwing around the garbage stat that we were a top five offense, which was nothing but passing yard statistics. We had no problems against bad teams moving between the twenties, because they played deep cover two and teams just played bend don’t break and knew eventually our drives would stall.

I remember one game where we did effectively nothing against Arizona until Romo happened to hit Barber underneath for a check down that ended up like a 70 yard TD. The game with Miles Austin against KC was simply him breaking tackles against the DBs making the plays on his own,

Our biggest excuse for Garrett back then was he didnt have a second WR to take the pressure off TO. But then Mike Austin couldn’t get open in this offense either.

 

[khiladi]

Don';t even start with that we lost out on Zimmer crap.

A HUGE segment here wanted him gone ...People seem to forget the GROZ crap in a multitude of signatures.

I understand being upset with the ginger but let's not go back and act like people thought zimmer was a saint around here.

He was way too conservative here and couldn’t get to the QB. I guess we were wrong.. either that of Parcells simply wanted him to be conservative...

 

[khiladi]

If I remember correctly Wade lost the locker room. Not making excuses for JG, just letting the OP know what I remember.

JGs PR team.. When 2015 happened, Jason’s PR team blamed the locker room antics on Dez’s monkey and Greg Hardy. It wasn’t the coaches fault then.

 

[CWR]

Remember Crayton saying how as soon as wade got fired Garrett busted out a new playbook? “Where were all these plays when wade was here”? Was his exact quote.

Wow, I never heard that. What a ******.

 

[CWR]

What scares me is that we will have a Marvin Lewis type of deal going on here. Hangs around forever and never wins anything.

He wishes he was as good as Marvin Lewis lol

 

[Galian Beast]

Don';t even start with that we lost out on Zimmer crap.

A HUGE segment here wanted him gone ...People seem to forget the GROZ crap in a multitude of signatures.

I understand being upset with the ginger but let's not go back and act like people thought zimmer was a saint around here.

Don't get me wrong. I was never a huge fan of either zimmer or payton at the time.

Zimmer was a decent coach, but he didn't have the right personnel. The decision to move to the 3-4 doomed him as well. It's why I'm in someone's signature for blaming Parcells for holding this team back. The move to the 3-4 set this team back probably 4 years and it never really recovered with Garrett and his inexperience. It's also why we went with Phillips because we had to have someone to take care of this new defense.

Parcells is also to blame for Payton leaving. He got demoted while he was here, but imagine what he could have done with Romo rather than Drew Bledsoe and Vinny Testaverde...

 

[khiladi]

Don't get me wrong. I was never a huge fan of either zimmer or payton at the time.

Zimmer was a decent coach, but he didn't have the right personnel. The decision to move to the 3-4 doomed him as well. It's why I'm in someone's signature for blaming Parcells for holding this team back. The move to the 3-4 set this team back probably 4 years and it never really recovered with Garrett and his inexperience. It's also why we went with Phillips because we had to have someone to take care of this new defense.

Parcells is also to blame for Payton leaving. He got demoted while he was here, but imagine what he could have done with Romo rather than Drew Bledsoe and Vinny Testaverde...

Funny thing is, Brees was Payton’s second choice. He wanted to take Romo with him when he left. Imagine what we could have seen in NO with that gun slinging offense and Romo...

 

[mahoneybill]

What scares me is that we will have a Marvin Lewis type of deal going on here. Hangs around forever and never wins anything.

great comparison. was thinking the same thing. All talk no go....

 

[khiladi]

IMO Phillips got an extra year than he should have.

I think They were on the brink of firing him but they had a good rally to a year and so Jerry brought him back.
Then it went so bad Jerry fired him mid season...something he has never done.

Seems like Garrett had a great year the year before...you have to wonder if he had a bad year last year...and the start to this year...if it would set the wheels in motion.

We may never know.

They were a top 2 scoring defense and Ware I believe that year had close to, if not over 20 sacks. That is when Wade actually took over the reigns of the defense from Brian Stewart.

They went 8-3 to win the regular season.

It was the offense that was being criticized, but Jason’s PR team was in full effect blaming it on no second WR and so on.. always looking for a way to push it on Wade, such as his style being camp cupcake..

 

[khiladi]

The reality is, during the Garrett OC era up until Romo got the new contract in 2013:

1. The blame was that Romo was a TO machine

2. Romo kept checking out of running plays Garrett called

Romo was being blamed for the fact that Garrett’s offense regularly turned the ball over. And Rob Ryan was fired, ironically, Garrett said the reason for it was because it didn’t generate TOs and give the offense more chances.

So according to Garrett, his offense wasn’t successful because it didn’t get more chances from TOs, but all the TOs generated by his offense was not a reason to blame, because it was the fault of the defense even though they had to deal with the TOs of Garrett’s offenses..

And 2014 happened when Garrett was effectively removed from the equation and Romo only threw 9 INTs, with close to 40 TDs and in Lambeau in sub freezing temperatures was close to perfect. And the they ran the ball and they were bottom four in passes attempted, meaning Romo was constantly audibling into runs.

 

[IrishAnto]

Wade Phillips was 34-22 as coach of the Dallas Cowboys.

He had one terrible year but was always above .500 each of his three previous years.

Jason Garrett has never had back to back years above .500.

In 7 years as head coach has only gone to the playoffs twice and is 1-2 in playoff games...

Stunned that Jason Garrett is still the head coach and I'm stunned that he still has apologist out there. His win percentage is much lower than Wade Phillips'. And while he has the same playoff record as Garrett, he won as many division titles as Garret in half the time.

The answer will nearly always be either directly or indirectly Jerry Jones.

 

[DFWJC]

Wade didn’t want Felix Jones, but Chris Johnson and per reports wants Mike Solari as offensive line coach. We spent years wasting away with man blocking schemes and Houck. He didn’t like drafting WRs in the first and Jerry leveraged a draft with Roy Williams to try and assist Garrett’s struggling offense.

Wade drafted Sean Lee and was given guys like Bradie James and Ayodele as LBs to cover in the 3-4. Jacques Reeves and Alan Ball were our coverage corners along with an aging Anthony Henry and Jerry’s love Roy Williams.

But I wouldn’t really blame Jerry in this respect only because Wade still speak so so highly of him. I’m sure he blames other guys like Garrett.

Chis Johnson sure would've helped.
Those 2008 and 2009 teams weren't too bad (the huge decline kicked in after that).
Add CJ to those teams and they may have gotten home field playoffs.

Oh well, old news

 

[JohnnyHopkins]

If I remember correctly Wade lost the locker room. Not making excuses for JG, just letting the OP know what I remember.

That team totally quit on Wade Phillips and it was embarrassing. Losing to Green Bay was terrible to watch, but they had also packed it in the week before against the Jaguars. Wade's defense had been getting steamrolled for like five straight games.

Wade deserved to be canned and if this team pulls a no-show this week then so does Garrett.

 

[khiladi]

There was really a huge mindset in the Dallas media to put everything in Wade and prop Garrett up for years.

They use to say how Garrett wanted to be more accountable, particularly in practice while Wade was just about fooling around. They even used things like Marion Barber having to wear a tie when Garrett became HC as proof of this.

 

[khiladi]

That team totally quit on Wade Phillips and it was embarrassing. Losing to Green Bay was terrible to watch, but they had also packed it in the week before against the Jaguars. Wade's defense had been getting steamrolled for like five straight games.

Wade deserved to be canned and if this team pulls a no-show this week then so does Garrett.

You mean the five straight games the Dallas offense had 3, 2, 2, 4, 4 TOs respectively while in one of those games Dallas defense generated 5 TOs against the Giants and held the Vikings to under 200 yards of total offense and still lost?

Maybe they quit on Jason, you know like when Matt Schaub was throwing pick sixes regularly for weeks in a row when Wade was DC for the Texans.. maybe they saw no point, because Jerry wasn’t going to do anything to get Garrett gone.. maybe Wade himself after all was said and done says ****, I’m not dealing with this garbage anymore..

 

[superonyx]

Nice post. This is why a coach like Mike Leach is relegated to the Texas Techs and Washington St's of the world. He's a hell of a coach, but can't handle the politics of the room.

Hire the man.

 

[AzorAhai]

It’s pretty simple really. The team had quit on Wade and Garrett was the HC in waiting that everyone already knew about, including those players who quit of Wade. He was set up for failure.

 

[crashintonickdm]

Who cares?

It’s been 7 years and there has been no process. All that’s consistent under this joke of a run is inconsistently

That reflects the idiot in charge. And if so facto the GM/owner

 

[links18]

It’s pretty simple really. The team had quit on Wade and Garrett was the HC in waiting that everyone already knew about, including those players who quit of Wade. He was set up for failure.

Pretty much. Garrett's status was one reason the team quit on Wade.