How do you build around 3 players making up 50% of Cap?

[Flamma]

I don't think so. Who has a 50+ mil QB and two other 30 mil players? KC refused. Eagles? I don't know how much their WRs are making, but I do know they had to release D players to pay them and it cause their downfall.

At some point we're just picking nits. Eagles have Hurts over 50, Brown over 30, and Smith at 25. Do you think if they paid Smith 5M more it would have broke them? Then they still managed to dump a lot of money on Barkley. They still have a lot of cap room. You can make it work if you're willing to pay later.

 

[Flamma]

49% is about as close to 50% as you can get. Lol

But that will never be the actual cap hits from year to year. That's what matters, right? I'm using this number for simplicity. If the cap is 200 million, the players have to have combined cap hits of 100 million to be at 50%. That's not going to happen. If they're 25% I'll be surprised.

If they sign Lamb tomorrow his cap hit will be around 10M. That's around 4%. Dak is 21%. Parsons isn't going to be signed this year.

The only player in the history of this league that has been to super bowls with an over 15% cap hit is Mahomes. He's pretty good.

 

[Diehardblues]

But that will never be the actual cap hits from year to year. That's what matters, right? I'm using this number for simplicity. If the cap is 200 million, the players have to have combined cap hits of 100 million to be at 50%. That's not going to happen. If they're 25% I'll be surprised.

If they sign Lamb tomorrow his cap hit will be around 10M. That's around 4%. Dak is 21%. Parsons isn't going to be signed this year.

The only player in the history of this league that has been to super bowls with an over 15% cap hit is Mahomes. He's pretty good.

You can get more specific with the details but even our owner made that comment about these 3 contracts making up about 50% of the Cap this year.

There was no mention of next year and beyond. It was simply provided as a lead in to his defense of why this was so difficult on resigning all 3 this year.

 

[Diehardblues]

At some point we're just picking nits. Eagles have Hurts over 50, Brown over 30, and Smith at 25. Do you think if they paid Smith 5M more it would have broke them? Then they still managed to dump a lot of money on Barkley. They still have a lot of cap room. You can make it work if you're willing to pay later.

And that’s the answer in resigning all 3. Have to have longer contracts where Cap hits are kicked back to end of contracts .

 

[kskboys]

It absolutely does. Re-work his deal at market rates and those cap numbers lower.
He wanted extra bites at the apple because of the years he spent being underpaid!!!! As a front office employee....you have to see his strategy and decide if you want to play. If you did not want to play...move off of him. Not cry about how Dak did the team dirty!

Are you kidding me? This is not a daycare...this is a multi-billion dollar business and yours is worth more than anybody elses. I feel no sympathy for billionaires that don't even have to win to make more than anybody else.

And I don't care if he stays or goes...but I don't want to hear about Dak's greed. Someone is going to pay it.

And Jerry did not care about what the other owners thought of him when he was making deals separate from the NFL owners in his early years of owning the team. He had a strategy to maximize the value of his business....and finally instead of complaining about him....the owners finally caught on. And began to mimic his stratagies.

You keep completely missing the primary facts. I think it's your agenda against billionaires that makes it so.

 

[kskboys]

someone is going to pay it so greed is good

I don't care what Dak gets paid. I do care that he insisted on a short term contract which screwed the team and so it's screwing us fans.

 

[rambo2]

This is what we are looking at if we resign Lamb, Prescott and Parsons.

Even our dysfunctional ownership has mentioned this in our 1st week at Training Camp.

I’m not sure any Franchise has ever attempted such a task?

We couldn’t build around them on Rookie contracts , how do you if they are about half of your Cap. I’m all ears people!!

Winning 12 games a year isn't building around them?

 

[kskboys]

I don't have to when I don't make assinine statements....50% trope is someone elses baby...own it. I am not doing your homework..
You tell me...

What a sorry cheapshot post. Shows that you're incapable of discussion.

 

[kskboys]

Winning 12 games a year isn't building around them?

No. Building a solid D and a good running game is building around them.

 

[Flamma]

And that’s the answer in resigning all 3. Have to have longer contracts where Cap hits are kicked back to end of contracts .

Right. Smith, Brown, Hurts, and Barkley take up roughly 15% of the cap this year. They're trying to win now with the knowledge that they'll have a lean year or two in the future.

 

[kskboys]

At some point we're just picking nits. Eagles have Hurts over 50, Brown over 30, and Smith at 25. Do you think if they paid Smith 5M more it would have broke them? Then they still managed to dump a lot of money on Barkley. They still have a lot of cap room. You can make it work if you're willing to pay later.

It did. It broke them. Didn't you pay attention to them last season? They're not making it work, it's falling apart. Meanwhile, Hargrave just played in the super bowl.

 

[kskboys]

Right. Smith, Brown, Hurts, and Barkley take up roughly 15% of the cap this year. They're trying to win now with the knowledge that they'll have a lean year or two in the future.

And it's not working.

 

[gtb1943]

What a sorry cheapshot post. Shows that you're incapable of discussion.

Dak bots are not cowboy fans; they are only Dak fans

 

[TNCowboy]

This is what we are looking at if we resign Lamb, Prescott and Parsons.

Even our dysfunctional ownership has mentioned this in our 1st week at Training Camp.

I’m not sure any Franchise has ever attempted such a task?

We couldn’t build around them on Rookie contracts , how do you if they are about half of your Cap. I’m all ears people!!

How do you win not having 3 players costing that much? And they never cost that much. Throwing $$ forward, those 3 will never be half your cap.

Having 3 elite players worthy of those salaries is how you win. The problem is getting 3 players who are worth it. Unfortunately, only 2 of our 3 are worth the $.

 

[Qcard]

What a sorry cheapshot post. Shows that you're incapable of discussion.

I am capable discussions without the preconceived notions that any 3 players could cost 75% or 50% of the annual Cap.

There are NFL calendar dates early in the year for NFL teams to get their Cap in order or they get fined!!

When you are ready to have a conversations and NOT dumb narratives that rile up the gullible....

Holla Back youngin....till then let me play with Dak Haters

 

[Flamma]

And it's not working.

We don't know that yet.

 

[xwalker]

Right. We should make this his contract for remainder of his career. Like 7 years or something closer to Mahomes 10 year deal.

Most likely he’ll never be here to see it thru but it lays the burden on end of contract. Give him a 100 million signing bonus, whatever. We have the cash. We gave him 66 last time . Who cares. It doesn’t go against the Cap.

Can only peorate signing bonus over 5 years max.

 

[Mr Cowboy]

This is what we are looking at if we resign Lamb, Prescott and Parsons.

Even our dysfunctional ownership has mentioned this in our 1st week at Training Camp.

I’m not sure any Franchise has ever attempted such a task?

We couldn’t build around them on Rookie contracts , how do you if they are about half of your Cap. I’m all ears people!!

If this is what they believe, they need to trade them and get something in return. You don't just let them walk. That is just stupid. The chiefs didn't trade Hill, they didn't let him walk. Just doing nothing is not the answer.

 

[exciter]

This is what we are looking at if we resign Lamb, Prescott and Parsons.

Even our dysfunctional ownership has mentioned this in our 1st week at Training Camp.

I’m not sure any Franchise has ever attempted such a task?

We couldn’t build around them on Rookie contracts , how do you if they are about half of your Cap. I’m all ears people!!

You prorate there base into signing bonus and then you trade those players in 3 to 4 or so years while they still have high value despite they’re declining… like Philly and other teams do.
There’s value to aging players other than just selling jerseys!

 

[rambo2]

This is what we are looking at if we resign Lamb, Prescott and Parsons.

Even our dysfunctional ownership has mentioned this in our 1st week at Training Camp.

I’m not sure any Franchise has ever attempted such a task?

We couldn’t build around them on Rookie contracts , how do you if they are about half of your Cap. I’m all ears people!!

They could very well sign Dak and Lamb and trade Parsons. I would consider doing that.