How Elite Has Tony Romo Been?

I see there are a few posters that want a different perspective here so I just hope some are mature enough to handle it without resorting to personal attacks. How Elite has Romo been you ask? Well if we go by the numbers and his paycheck he's in the Top 5 but those of us that have played the game and understand it completely will tell you he's Elite if you keep it within his "Range," as T-Will once implied when he made that spectacular sideline catch. Oh but his numbers!!! His numbers tell a different story!!! Yes but if you watch him play he doesn't have the same physical capability he had earlier in his career so they have learned to keep most of his pass attempts down, in his range, and they have decided to finally lean way more on the run to the tune of 1,800+ yds, bravo coaches. Somebody finally gets it and it's working, we are winning again.

So basically he started playing smarter and not harder after Game 1 due to his injuries and his physical limitations. He stopped trying to force the ball into double and triple coverage because somebody realized he doesn't have the same strength and zip on the ball like he did earlier in his career. Thank God they finally built him an O-line again that allows him to stand there for 8+ seconds while he waits for somebody to get open or he eats a "Coverage sack." This injury while being somewhat debilitating was the best thing that's happened for his game because it's forced him to be more Choosy with his passes and it's forced him to lean more on the run and keep his pass attempts down. He doesn't have to "Do Too Much" anymore. The last tweak to improving his game will be to get him to throw it away more instead of taking sacks from holding the ball to long, or devise more check down/safety type options for him. A speedy scat back in open space can do wonders for our offensive attack.

Look nobody has ever disputed that the guy is a warrior, he's tough for still being out there in his condition, and he played really well after Game 1 when they started limiting his audibles from run to pass and exchanged it with 2 run options vs one run and one pass option. Somebody had to save him from himself and that's exactly what the coaches did this year. The end result was less gunslinger interceptions but more sacks yet the trade off proved to be great, Elite if you look at the numbers and not his overall skill level in which they accomplished this change with. We won 13 games because the team stepped up, receivers made spectacular plays, they kept most of his pass attempts in his range, he didn't have to do too much, we dominated the line of scrimmage offensively while moving the ball more, and there's no reason to continue to nitpick other than because people keep calling for it.

Moving on I expect Romo being a full off season removed from his last surgery and injury to be a little stronger, sharper, and even that much more improved due to health yet learning from the time he wasn't 100%. He's a Seasoned Vet more than ever now, he's wiser, he's more protective of the ball than he's ever been and we as fans can only hope that we continue to build a better supporting cast around him despite some of the Cap challenges we face, possibly losing quality players to free agency, and lastly getting some gems out of the draft, and maybe getting a few quality FA's outside the team.
 
I see there are a few posters that want a different perspective here so I just hope some are mature enough to handle it without resorting to personal attacks. How Elite has Romo been you ask? Well if we go by the numbers and his paycheck he's in the Top 5 but those of us that have played the game and understand it completely will tell you he's Elite if you keep it within his "Range," as T-Will once implied when he made that spectacular sideline catch. Oh but his numbers!!! His numbers tell a different story!!! Yes but if you watch him play he doesn't have the same physical capability he had earlier in his career so they have learned to keep most of his pass attempts down, in his range, and they have decided to finally lean way more on the run to the tune of 1,800+ yds, bravo coaches. Somebody finally gets it and it's working, we are winning again.

So basically he started playing smarter and not harder after Game 1 due to his injuries and his physical limitations. He stopped trying to force the ball into double and triple coverage because somebody realized he doesn't have the same strength and zip on the ball like he did earlier in his career. Thank God they finally built him an O-line again that allows him to stand there for 8+ seconds while he waits for somebody to get open or he eats a "Coverage sack." This injury while being somewhat debilitating was the best thing that's happened for his game because it's forced him to be more Choosy with his passes and it's forced him to lean more on the run and keep his pass attempts down. He doesn't have to "Do Too Much" anymore. The last tweak to improving his game will be to get him to throw it away more instead of taking sacks from holding the ball to long, or devise more check down/safety type options for him. A speedy scat back in open space can do wonders for our offensive attack.

Look nobody has ever disputed that the guy is a warrior, he's tough for still being out there in his condition, and he played really well after Game 1 when they started limiting his audibles from run to pass and exchanged it with 2 run options vs one run and one pass option. Somebody had to save him from himself and that's exactly what the coaches did this year. The end result was less gunslinger interceptions but more sacks yet the trade off proved to be great, Elite if you look at the numbers and not his overall skill level in which they accomplished this change with. We won 13 games because the team stepped up, receivers made spectacular plays, they kept most of his pass attempts in his range, he didn't have to do too much, we dominated the line of scrimmage offensively while moving the ball more, and there's no reason to continue to nitpick other than because people keep calling for it.

Moving on I expect Romo being a full off season removed from his last surgery and injury to be a little stronger, sharper, and even that much more improved due to health yet learning from the time he wasn't 100%. He's a Seasoned Vet more than ever now, he's wiser, he's more protective of the ball than he's ever been and we as fans can only hope that we continue to build a better supporting cast around him despite some of the Cap challenges we face, possibly losing quality players to free agency, and lastly getting some gems out of the draft, and maybe getting a few quality FA's outside the team.

Bill is that you?:) I think that's a pretty fair assessment for Tony.
 
He put the ball right where it needed to be in GB this past season. replay blew that one.

Goes back to why didn't this team put the game on his shoulders earlier in the DET/GB games? 19 attempts...here ya go NE? Why exactly do you need a 100M QB in that formula? Romo is def top 3 but is falling into the Brady/Manning category of negating the deep ball for the most part.

We need a 1,800 yard rusher to make this work now? It came down to Dez/Romo saving the day either way (Murray's presence didn't mean much in playoffs when it really came down to it) Was this team more talented than DET/GB? Most deftly, but they sure didn't show it in the playoffs. Which one is it? Romo (100M) at a great QBR with no aggression and a running game or winning when it matters? Either way we had the weakest NFC in years and couldn't get it done.
 
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Goes back to why didn't this team put the game on his shoulders earlier in the DET/GB games? 19 attempts...here ya go NE? Why exactly do you need a 100M QB in that formula? Romo is def top 3 but is falling into the Brady/Manning category of negating the deep ball for the most part.

We need a 1,800 yard rusher to make this work now? It came down to Dez/Romo saving the day either way (Murray's presence didn't mean much in playoffs when it really came down to it) Was this team more talented than DET/GB? Most deftly, but they sure didn't show it in the playoffs. Which one is it? Romo (100M) at a great QBR with no aggression and a running game or winning when it matters? Either way we had the weakest NFC in years and couldn't get it done.

You need a balanced attack. When was the last time we had that? Murray ran for 125 against GB. Were they not in the playoffs to?
You need a defense that you can actually have on the field. Not one you hope your offense keeps off the field.
Romos not the very best QB in the league but he is top five IMOP.
Give him a offense like last year, add some defense and you have a championship team.
 
I've been watching football since 1977 and, IMO, Romo is an absolutely GREAT QB. Every meaningful QB stat backs that up. The only things he lacks are TEAM accomplishments. His numbers are HOF-worthy already. If he can get a decent defense and catch a break (not have WRs drop critical passes or refs take away catches), he'll get the only thing he's missing - a ring. His regular season rating is 2nd in NFL history. People used to point to his postseason stats, which were ordinary, but that's no longer the case. He has a postseason QB rating of 93 and a 4:1 TD:INT ratio in the playoffs. Wins are TEAM accomplishments. If his whole team played anywhere near his level throughout his career he'd have multiple rings.
 
I've been watching football since 1977 and, IMO, Romo is an absolutely GREAT QB. Every meaningful QB stat backs that up. The only things he lacks are TEAM accomplishments. His numbers are HOF-worthy already. If he can get a decent defense and catch a break (not have WRs drop critical passes or refs take away catches), he'll get the only thing he's missing - a ring. His regular season rating is 2nd in NFL history. People used to point to his postseason stats, which were ordinary, but that's no longer the case. He has a postseason QB rating of 93 and a 4:1 TD:INT ratio in the playoffs. Wins are TEAM accomplishments. If his whole team played anywhere near his level throughour his career he'd have multiple rings.

This. He has made mistakes but some times your team needs to do something to help make up for those.
The funny thing to me is how he gets blamed for the mistakes but how no one mentions how the rest of the team did little to help.
How anyone can look at last season and not notice how good he really is with a very good cast around him is remarkable.
 
Elite enough to have only won 2 playoff games in his career, so not very.

I am a Romo supporter.
I want the Super Bowl win for him.


But this silly notion that a QB with barely, I do mean barely two playoff wins in 6 attempts?
Numerous failed attempts to reach post season is the fault of something else is... Silly.


I can be a supporter and still call it for what it is.
You can disagree but don't tell me I am wrong, just disagree.
 
Dark days will fall upon us once #9 retires. I remeber in 2007 when Romo was lighting it up and I was like he's only 26/27! Now 8 years later we're near into the end of his tenure. How time flies.
 
I can list at least a half a dozen games, crucial games that he singlehandedly lost.
But I won't. Why bother....

Let this thread go where it wants. Glorifying the numbers.

A little but of Jeter in Romo would go a lonnnnnnnnnnnggggg way here.....

Romo has a lot of Jeter in him, he just didn't have Paul O'Neil, Bernie Williams, Manuel Rivera, Andy Pettitte and Tino Martinez. as teammates. Jeter is home watching the playoffs without those guys around him. Then you can add in the Joe Torre vs. Wade Phillips manager head coach. debate, hmmm... who had more success? You might as well say Demarco Murray should have had more LeGarrette Blount in him this year.
 
Dark days will fall upon us once #9 retires. I remeber in 2007 when Romo was lighting it up and I was like he's only 26/27! Now 8 years later we're near into the end of his tenure. How time flies.

What dark days? We've already living in them. The Cowboys haven't done a dang thing with Romo as the QB. There is no difference in 5-11 and 8-8. Ugh.
 
Romo has a lot of Jeter in him, he just didn't have Paul O'Neil, Bernie Williams, Manuel Rivera, Andy Pettitte and Tino Martinez. as teammates. Jeter is home watching the playoffs without those guys around him. Then you can add in the Joe Torre vs. Wade Phillips manager head coach. debate, hmmm... who had more success? You might as well say Demarco Murray should have had more LeGarrette Blount in him this year.

True, he has some Jeter in him. Not nearly as clutch.
But he also has Arod in him too. No too clutch. Whiffs at the most inopportune times.

Jeter had all those guys around him BUT... You don't see him costing his team a game. Certainly not in the playoffs or getting to playoffs.

He has some Jeter but they are not in same level. Not even close.
 
What dark days? We've already living in them. The Cowboys haven't done a dang thing with Romo as the QB. There is no difference in 5-11 and 8-8. Ugh.

Considering we had a chance to win the division every year we went 8-8, I would say 5-11 is definitely a step back,
 

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