How Good Was Danny White?

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That tackle on Pearson probably cost us a SB win and might have made the difference in the early 80s. The confidence of the team would have been with him and that might have made just enough difference. I do not think the team started to decline untill about 84. By then Manster was human and Ed Jones and the other stars were getting old. The 86 team was all offense and as I recall were getting a lot of sacks- but were getting run on. We would have paid the price in the playoffs. Once you do not have to pass our D was weakening and and so was a lot of the rest of the team. The drafts since about 81 were not good and we were not getting many good players. No fresh young blood to help out the gray beards. The bears would have eaten us up if we had met them in the playoffs.
 

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burmafrd;1717475 said:
That tackle on Pearson probably cost us a SB win and might have made the difference in the early 80s. The confidence of the team would have been with him and that might have made just enough difference. I do not think the team started to decline untill about 84. By then Manster was human and Ed Jones and the other stars were getting old. The 86 team was all offense and as I recall were getting a lot of sacks- but were getting run on. We would have paid the price in the playoffs. Once you do not have to pass our D was weakening and and so was a lot of the rest of the team. The drafts since about 81 were not good and we were not getting many good players. No fresh young blood to help out the gray beards. The bears would have eaten us up if we had met them in the playoffs.

Not in 84. They got smoked by SF in 84 I believe. 23-0. The Bears were unbelievable in 85. In 84, we actually beat the Bears 23-14.
 

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tyke1doe;1717181 said:
He was a good quarterback but won't be listed among the greats because he could never take the team to the Super Bowl. He had critical fumbles in both the Championships we lost to the Skins and the 49ers.

He was a very versatile player (he used to be the Cowboys punter too) and showed a flair for the dramatic, bringing the Cowboys back to beat the Falcons in a playoff game. But he just couldn't get the team over the top. Maybe that's not totally his fault. But he gets the blame as quarterbacks generally do.

Excuse me?! he was sacked and got the ball knocked out. BTW, he was moving the team to mid field for a potential winning field goal until that sack.
He may not have been a great player but he was very good for many years. It was unfortunate that he had to follow captain comeback.

Until we had found Romo, we would have prayed to have Danny White playing QB for us for the last 10 yrs.
 

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ABQCOWBOY;1717482 said:
Not in 84. They got smoked by SF in 84 I believe. 23-0. The Bears were unbelievable in 85. In 84, we actually beat the Bears 23-14.

84 started off bad for Dallas. Drew Pearson was in a car accident that killed his brother and knocked him out of football for good. Drew Hill enters camp that season out of shape and over weight which hacked off Landry. That season was the begining of the end for Dallas until the SB teams of the 90's
 

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btcutter;1717490 said:
Excuse me?! he was sacked and got the ball knocked out. BTW, he was moving the team to mid field for a potential winning field goal until that sack.
He may not have been a great player but he was very good for many years. It was unfortunate that he had to follow captain comeback.

Until we had found Romo, we would have prayed to have Danny White playing QB for us for the last 10 yrs.

Danny was great and I think it is rediculas for anyone to blame White for the 9ers game. It was 27 to 28 game meaning a lot of guys failed to do their jobs or else we would not have been in the position to come back from behind. I don't hear anyone blaming the defense for allowing the 9ers to get into scoring position to hit the "catch" yet White took the entire blame for the Cowboys not making the SB? I don't get it and never have.
 

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A better Jake Delhomme, Equal to Bernie Kosar, something around there.
 

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Doomsday101;1717499 said:
Danny was great and I think it is rediculas for anyone to blame White for the 9ers game. It was 27 to 28 game meaning a lot of guys failed to do their jobs or else we would not have been in the position to come back from behind. I don't hear anyone blaming the defense for allowing the 9ers to get into scoring position to hit the "catch" yet White took the entire blame for the Cowboys not making the SB? I don't get it and never have.

Couldn't agree more. I'm pretty sure Danny wasn't playing defense when Montana dinked and dunked his team down the field in the last four minutes.

Sal Paolantonio:

First of all, the Niners should have easily won that game. San Francisco had 393 total yards to the Cowboys' 250. But the 49ers committed six turnovers in the game. They were determined to give it away. "The Catch" was the unlikely half of a great play in a game that was absolutely controlled by Dallas. But the Cowboys were just not good enough. In fact, that game was one of a long line of postseason games that the Cowboys were finding ways to lose in that era.

From 1978 to 1983, the Cowboys had five successive years in which they underperformed in the postseason. They lost Super Bowl XIII to the Steelers -- "Bless his heart, he's got to be the sickest man in America" -- in the 1978 season. The following season, they lost to the 9-7 Los Angeles Rams 21-19 in the divisional playoffs. In 1980, Dallas went down hard in Philadelphia, losing 20-7 to Ron Jaworski's Eagles, a team that was embarrassed by the Raiders in Super Bowl XV.

After the loss to the Niners in 1981, the Cowboys lost their third straight NFC Championship Game in 1982, this time to the eventual Super Bowl champion Commanders.

So, despite the claims that The (so-called) Catch ushered in the demise of the Cowboys, that's simply wrong. The loss to the Niners was a symptom, not a catalyst of what happened to the Cowboys.
 

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Doomsday101;1717491 said:
84 started off bad for Dallas. Drew Pearson was in a car accident that killed his brother and knocked him out of football for good. Drew Hill enters camp that season out of shape and over weight which hacked off Landry. That season was the begining of the end for Dallas until the SB teams of the 90's

We needed to beat Washington or Miami in the last game of the season to make the playoff I think. We were 9-7 I believe. We lost to Washington 30-28 and then got beat by Miami 28-21 in the final game of the season. Miami was 14-2 that year. I think that might have been the game that Marino threw the tipped pass to Moore for a TD in the last seconds on Monday Night but can't remember for certain. That was a killer.
 

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ABQCOWBOY;1717527 said:
We needed to beat Washington or Miami in the last game of the season to make the playoff I think. We were 9-7 I believe. We lost to Washington 30-28 and then got beat by Miami 28-21 in the final game of the season. Miami was 14-2 that year. I think that might have been the game that Marino threw the tipped pass to Moore for a TD in the last seconds on Monday Night but can't remember for certain. That was a killer.

All I was getting at was the talent base was dropping off and older vets on their last leg had no one behind them to take over. Losing Pearson before the start of the season hurt us and then Hill coming in at less than 100% made matters worse. I just always felt White took abuse by fans when it was a lot more than White
 

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Doomsday101;1717536 said:
All I was getting at was the talent base was dropping off and older vets on their last leg had no one behind them to take over. Losing Pearson before the start of the season hurt us and then Hill coming in at less than 100% made matters worse. I just always felt White took abuse by fans when it was a lot more than White


No, no, I agree. Sorry if I gave you the wrong impression there. It was not a huge drop off that year. It was a lot of little things that kinda came together to screw up the season. In 85, we were 7-3 going into the Bears game with a 3-1 record in the East when we got shalacked by the Bears 46, 44-0. We finished the season 3-3 from that point but were 5-1 in the East. Didn't matter. After that loss, we were just not a confident team. We went into the playoffs 10-6 and got waxed by the Rams 20-0. Was the Bears year. However, in 86, I really thought that was our last really good team. We were 6-2 going into the Giants game. Lost a close game to Atlanta 37-35 and to Denver in Mile High 29-14, which really didn't hurt as it was AFC. We had beaten NY, StL, Skinz, and Philly already. We were well on our way to a strong playoff run when Danny went down. That was just a damn shame.
 

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I wish we had White after Troy left. We would have won a lot more games. Joey Galloway may have stayed too.
 

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White couldn't move anywhere near Delhomme....White was a big INT guy ...post season especially - he also perfected the get hit while throwing fumble...he was great at that....White was a tease...he'd get ya there and then fall apaer like a cheap suit...
 

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Rack;1717231 said:
OT but what really angers me about that game is everyone showing "The Catch" and Everson Walls getting beat, but no one mentions the 2 ints and Forced Fumble (did he also have a fumble recovery?) he had in that game. If not for Walls there wouldn't of been "The Catch" cuz they would of just been running out the clock on us in the 4th quarter.

And what I remember about White:

In 1986 we were 5-1 (I think) till he got hurt (I think it was either LT or Carl Banks that broke his wrist). Out for the season, we ended up winning 7 games.

I think it was maybe even 6-1 or 6-2 and White had won Division in 1985? That was the Hogeboom debacle era. Once White went down we went on a 3-4 year bender.
 

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tyke1doe;1717181 said:
He was a good quarterback but won't be listed among the greats because he could never take the team to the Super Bowl. He had critical fumbles in both the Championships we lost to the Skins and the 49ers.

He was a very versatile player (he used to be the Cowboys punter too) and showed a flair for the dramatic, bringing the Cowboys back to beat the Falcons in a playoff game. But he just couldn't get the team over the top. Maybe that's not totally his fault. But he gets the blame as quarterbacks generally do.

Yeah, had Pearson not been stopped by the skin of his jersey in 1982 in San Francisco, histotry might have been kinder to Danny.

Then again, the assinine decision early in the 1984 season to start Hoogebum instead of White probably cost us a playoff berth.
 

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dbair1967;1717219 said:
Steve Pelleur QB'd most of the games from late 1986 through the 88 season...he was kinda like Quincy (on the field, not off) except with a stronger arm...he had some talent but was very mistake prone..

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danny was a very good qb for the cowboys...

i loved when he would punt because you never knew if he was going to take off running or not....it added a great wrinkle i must say.

the only knocks i had of him were his slow decision making and tendency to fumble in very crucial situations.

he was very tough though.. i have the 87 game at new england where andre tippett nearly kills him on a body slam..no penalty and danny gets up and goes about his business.

this was a brutal hit by the way.

andre tippett should be in the hall of fame..
 
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