How many don't want Murray back?

kevm3

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I personally don't believe Murray's body can stand up to the level we're going to need him to perform relative to what we're going to have to pay him. We're not going to get another 2014 type of year from Murray IMO. We clearly saw his body wearing down as the season progressed. We're going to have to pay him for the numbers he put up this year, aka feature back money, but most likely we're going to have to rotate him amongst other backs to keep him fresh. I personally believe Murray wants a 4+ year, high dollar contract, and I believe some ball club will pay him that. I'd rather take AD for 2 years and search for a replacement in the draft.
 

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I was about to post something very similar. DeMarco's ability to grind out tough yards and tote the rock 25 games was as key as anything to us becoming a run-oriented team this year. A lot of people have said that run-heavy offense is what has taken Romo's game to the next level, both allowing him to better manage his back while also not being forced into doing too much and making that critical mistake.

For the Dallas Cowboys of 2011-2013, DeMarco Murray is a guy you let walk. He's getting 15 carries a game and is just an accent piece to what is a passing offense. Are we as fans wanting to return to that style of play? Then let him walk. If we want to continue what we built this year, I think it's more important than many do that he is retained.

Randle's a nice running back, but I can't imagine him carrying the ball 360 times next season. And a platoon of Randle-Dunbar hardly packs a powerful punch.

I've seen names like Melvin Gordon pop up. Oh, sure, I'd love him. But are we really going to invest a 1st or 2nd round pick on Murray's replacement? And from a talent standpoint, I'd have no issue replacing Murray with Adrian Peterson. But do we really think that if Peterson becomes a free agent, he's going to command less than Murray in an open market?

I think AD will command less years on his contract than Murray, which is why I'd be inclined to lean towards AD.
 

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I was about to post something very similar. DeMarco's ability to grind out tough yards and tote the rock 25 games was as key as anything to us becoming a run-oriented team this year. A lot of people have said that run-heavy offense is what has taken Romo's game to the next level, both allowing him to better manage his back while also not being forced into doing too much and making that critical mistake.

For the Dallas Cowboys of 2011-2013, DeMarco Murray is a guy you let walk. He's getting 15 carries a game and is just an accent piece to what is a passing offense. Are we as fans wanting to return to that style of play? Then let him walk. If we want to continue what we built this year, I think it's more important than many do that he is retained.

Randle's a nice running back, but I can't imagine him carrying the ball 360 times next season. And a platoon of Randle-Dunbar hardly packs a powerful punch.

I've seen names like Melvin Gordon pop up. Oh, sure, I'd love him. But are we really going to invest a 1st or 2nd round pick on Murray's replacement? And from a talent standpoint, I'd have no issue replacing Murray with Adrian Peterson. But do we really think that if Peterson becomes a free agent, he's going to command less than Murray in an open market?

Right on all the above.

You have to ask yourself. Is it worth wasting a 1st rounder on Melvin Gordon or keeping Murray and paying about 5 or 6 million a year for him? You keep Demarco and you can use that 1st rounder on defense.

I'm not wasting a 1st or 2nd or even a 3rd rounder on a running back. I'd rather go with Randle than use a 1st rounder on a running back.
 

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There could be a legit reason why Ryan Williams is still on the PS.


Totally agree something is fishy right there. Williams said that he could have went to 9 or 10 teams but decided to stay in Dallas. I think he was told he could be the man next year. I think Murray held us back at times I feel, because when Randle was given a chance to carry the ball he would rip some nice runs with that breakaway speed. In today's game if Randle had the holes Murray had he would of been racing to the end zone.
 

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We need to distribute carries period. A speed runner on this team and we score a TD more per game

Like I said before in this thread, Murray held us back by getting too many carries and not doing much on most runs , due to not having that breakaway speed.
 

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Like I said before in this thread, Murray held us back by getting too many carries and not doing much on most runs , due to not having that breakaway speed.

Most people have been of the opinion that the run-heavy offense helped save Romo's back and saved him from himself (limiting his mistakes). Are you of the opinion that we ran too much by giving Murray too many carries?
 

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But are we really going to invest a 1st or 2nd round pick on Murray's replacement?

I would. Even with our defensive deficiencies. If you are going to have a pound and ground offense, then having a marquee young RB is worth the resources.

I know some will say that Murray is that back now, and maybe so for a year or two, but whatever contract we sign him to he will be significantly slower at the end of it. RB is a young man's position. Plus coupled with the fumbles and injury history, no way do I give significant cap dollars to him now.

As I've said, he's a good RB, not a great one. Paying him like one and locking him in as a starter for several more years will be a mistake.
 

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He will probably leave. And Dallas will probably treat the position like it SHOULD be treated in the modern day NFL. MOST teams use RB by committee. And Murray is not Emmit Smith. Not many people are. I don't care WHAT the stats say....he lost burst the last quarter of the season. Even GB got there 100 yards out of Lacy...but there were STRETCHES of the game where people wondered of Lacy was hurt. Why? Because he was being MANAGED.

I was not a big Murray fan early in his career. Because he left yards on the field OFTEN. And even after 1800 yards...I still see a RB that leaves chunks of yards on the field.

I would love to have him if we are going to use him properly. Screens should be to to a Dorsett or Sproles type. 3rd down responsibilities should be with somone that can go full tilt in knocking the snot out of blitzer or catching a ball in the flat and getting 20

And Randle is NOT the answer for 20 carries 16 games a year. He is a 8 carries a game RB. We SIMPLY would NOT give him a chance. But someone needs to fill that role. A real change of pace back that this staff TRUSTS needs to be used. Let a Murray type soften up the defense...and thing a guy that can simply break a defense back with a crushing 50 yard run!
 

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No RB is worth fumbles. PERIOD.

Randle looks like he'll handle the load just fine.

Goodbye, Murray.

I'm still really freakin depressed right now and probably not the most level-headed, but I couldn't agree more.

I will never forget all that green he had in front of him on that play. It's just burned into my memory for eternity.
 

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I'm just curious how many of you don't want Murray back ? If so who do you want draft or FA?


I'd like him back, but I think the only realistic option is to franchise him. No way I'd want to give him something like 5 years for $65M, of which he'd probably want at least $30M guaranteed. If he won't sign for something like 4 years for $40M, which I doubt he will, I just couldn't lock him up if I was Stephen.

They're going to bring Dez back, so that's where a ton of money is going and they'll have numerous moving pieces and part on defense, so they need to decide who to bring back and who to let go on that side of the ball too. I wouldn't get too heavily invested in a runningback, and I wouldn't do something like spending a ton on Adrian Peterson either. Randle and Dunbar aren't going to carry the load, but you can't lock up everyone with a huge deal, especially not RBs you want to work to death.
 

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I'll sign him for the right price but I doubt his asking price will be Cowboy friendly.
 

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I want him back. However, it's probably best for the team financially to let him walk. But the reality is the running game likely won't be the same without Murray. I think people are being naïve thinking you just plug anyone back there and expect similar production over a 16 game season, whether you split up carries or not. But unfortunately due to the salary cap, these are tough decisions you have to make. Ultimately I'd let him walk, draft a RB relatively early and hope for the best. Murrays cap dollars need to be spent on the DL.
 

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I'm just curious how many of you don't want Murray back ? If so who do you want draft or FA?

Murray had 6 fumbles ...more than any RB in the NFL that includes rookies....

Really it's also Garrett's fault because when you watch games even though Murray sometimes does carry the ball go his side he doesn't secure it very well...also now teams know he fumbles dudes doomed....let him walk
 

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I think the Cowboys will offer the 4 year 16 million range, that people have talked about before. I really don't think they will budge much off of that number.....IMO
 

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I want a better angle of that fumble, but he definitely does not secure the ball the way I'd like to see him secure it, generally. If he didn't have at least three points of contact (he should have 5 going through the LoS, but at least three in this case), then, yeah, I'd be pretty ticked. That's was a two-score swing of a mistake in a game we absolutely had to have, and it was entirely correctible.

I tell Murray that was one hell of a costly fumble he just had because that 4 yr $16 million offer went bye bye the second he dropped that ball....................I don't pay $4 million a year to a back that fumbles in playoff games.


He had the whole dam season to work on his fumbling problem and all he said was that he was not going to change the way he played.....................Well that fumble costed us the game, because if we score a TD there it is a double digit lead and the Bryant TD never happens.
 

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I'm just curious how many of you don't want Murray back ? If so who do you want draft or FA?

It's not that I don't like Murray but the money he is going to make needs to go to the Def side of the ball. There will be cheaper options available.
 
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