CFZ How many more years will Dak be a starter?

Hardline said:
The problem is the Cowboys aren't looking for anyone better. They have no interest in trying to find someone better.
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The 49ers were looking for someone better than Jimmy G and ended up with someone worse and they gave up the farm to get him. They ended up finding someone better than both QBs they had with the last pick in the entire draft. You don’t waste a high pick on a QB unless you absolutely need one. Nothing wrong with taking flyers on QBs later in the draft. That’s how we ended up with Dak.
 
yeah after this year when he gets mike fired maybe we can get the garrett back. He's a garrett guy, who some guys are crying about getting rid of it. I agree get rid of the garrett guys, The last one is dak.
 
KJJ said:
The 49ers were looking for someone better than Jimmy G and ended up with someone worse and they gave up the farm to get him. They ended up finding someone better than both QBs they had with the last pick in the entire draft. You don’t waste a high pick on a QB unless you absolutely need one. Nothing wrong with taking flyers on QBs later in the draft. That’s how we ended up with Dak.
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You do if you are attempting to upgrade the position. Alex Smith was doing very well (regular season wise) with the Chiefs and they traded up in the draft and grabbed Mahomes to groom for one season then traded Smith to Washington.

Teams attempt and fail. Teams attempt and succeed. Teams that don’t attempt will never know if the position could have been upgraded with the move (no matter how the player turns out with another team).
 
KJJ said:
Didn’t say you did just pointing out that Lance didn’t look good. The lesser a team you have the more your QB has to do. Purdy never had to pass the ball for more than 285 yards in any game. He only had a couple of games with more than 30 attempts. He has a great team around him, but stick him on another team that isn’t as good and his warts will show.
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Agreed. The better the team you have, the easier it is to find good QB play.
 
Blitzen said:
You do if you are attempting to upgrade the position. Alex Smith was doing very well (regular season wise) with the Chiefs and they traded up in the draft and grabbed Mahomes to groom for one season then traded Smith to Washington.

Teams attempt and fail. Teams attempt and succeed. Teams that don’t attempt will never know if the position could have been upgraded with the move (no matter how the player turns out with another team).
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Alex Smith clearly wasn’t the answer, which is why San Francisco moved on from him and KC moved up for Mahomes. If the Cowboys were as high on a QB as KC was with Mahomes, they might take that chance as well. Teams that attempt and fail at drafting QBs end up getting set back and go nowhere for years. Washington is an example.
 
Blitzen said:
You do if you are attempting to upgrade the position.
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The Cowboys aren’t attempting to upgrade the starting QB position. They’re trying to upgrade other positions because they’re close to getting over the hump. We can’t be using a premium draft pick on a QB who’s going to be on the sidelines carrying a clipboard when we’re on the brink of possibly breaking through.
 
Dallas should allocate a mid-round pick, every 2-3 years, on a QB prospect. That is not a level of resource allocation that is harmful to the present.
 
KJJ said:
Alex Smith clearly wasn’t the answer, which is why San Francisco moved on from him and KC moved up for Mahomes. If the Cowboys were as high on a QB as KC was with Mahomes, they might take that chance as well. Teams that attempt and fail at drafting QBs end up getting set back and go nowhere for years. Washington is an example.
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Teams that have Kirk Cousins as their QB may be worse off.

They're never good enough to win it all....nor are they ever bad enough to draft the best QB in any draft. Permanent limbo.

Teams that have Kirk Cousins as their QB...like Minnesota, or Dallas..... frequently get to play in January....but never in February :-(

That said....the Minnesota's of the NfL tend to make a lot of money, because they'll win a playoff game every so often, and string their fans along every year.
 
CowboysLakerBamaFan said:
Teams that have Kirk Cousins as their QB may be worse off.

They're never good enough to win it all....nor are they ever bad enough to draft the best QB in any draft. Permanent limbo.

Teams that have Kirk Cousins as their QB...like Minnesota, or Dallas..... frequently get to play in January....but never in February :-(

That said....the Minnesota's of the NfL tend to make a lot of money, because they'll win a playoff game every so often, and string their fans along every year.
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Teams that have Kirk Cousins at least have a chance. Washington hasn’t had a winning season since they let him go. They’ve wasted several draft picks, including a first rounder and they still can’t find a QB better than him. You become worse off when you’re having to play musical chairs at QB every season. I’m sure Washington’s fanbase is really excited about Jacoby Brissett and a second year QB battling it out for the starting job this summer. Lol If it was up to a lot of fans on this board, the Cowboys would be going through the same crap at QB they do every year.
 
Some of you think all you do is use a premium draft pick on a QB and BINGO! :laugh:
 
Sometimes I think Tony Romo was almost a curse on the franchise (Romo was good, don't misunderstand). What JJ "learned" from that experience was that the team didn't need to devote many draft resources to the position. And they haven't in a long long time. The QB position is by far the most important on the team, so the lack of draft capital spent on in is just mind-numbing.

Investing in the QB position is not a yes or no question. It's shades of grey. There is a middle ground that does not involve a "premium draft pick", which of course is no guarantee (but higher probability of success).
 
KJJ said:
Alex Smith clearly wasn’t the answer, which is why San Francisco moved on from him and KC moved up for Mahomes. If the Cowboys were as high on a QB as KC was with Mahomes, they might take that chance as well. Teams that attempt and fail at drafting QBs end up getting set back and go nowhere for years. Washington is an example.
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SF does not seem to have taken years to rebound though Lance is about to enter year 3 hardly taking a snap. I believe that most GM’s take big swings on young QB prospects trying to hit on an elite QB, but usually just get a good QB. If the roster isn’t stacked, the good QB looks like trash. The GM gets fired for giving up too many premium picks for a QB and having no real roster support. Then the thing starts over. Washington for some reason neglects the offensive line and the offensive unit in general (maybe because the head coach is a defensive specialist).

There’s great risk in big investments. The Cowboys trade in the money market easy money. The Chiefs trade on the stock market and bet heavy on a fairly high draft cost QB, and is now trouncing the league with him. It is not easy, but it obviously can work out. It also does not mean disaster if you miss (see SF protecting themselves by continuing to invest in the lines of scrimmage).
 
KJJ said:
The Cowboys aren’t attempting to upgrade the starting QB position. They’re trying to upgrade other positions because they’re close to getting over the hump. We can’t be using a premium draft pick on a QB who’s going to be on the sidelines carrying a clipboard when we’re on the brink of possibly breaking through.
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Getting to a conference championship game and performing great would be close to getting over the hump. Short of that is just a laundry list of also rans. Mahomes carried a clipboard for 1 year. Aaron Rodgers held one for like 3-4 years.
 
If Dak doesn't make it to the NFC Championship game this year, he'll be starting for another team in 2024.
 
Make or break season?


Nick Harris: I'm not buying into this take just yet. Along with Mike McCarthy taking over as playcaller, the new offense in Dallas has been constructed completely around Dak Prescott and how he can be successful with the weapons around him. Even if worst case scenario happens in 2023, I doubt one bad season in year one under the new offensive system forces a contract extension to stall out and another signal-caller to find his way behind center. However, if turnovers remain as consistently frequent as last season, I could see that being a reality although I wouldn't necessarily bet on it.

Mickey: My first answer would be, who wrote that? Did you read that on our website, too? Also, on one of the local newspaper websites? Make sure you are reading writers actually covering the team, not from someone looking for clicks. If this is a make-or-break year for Dak, what determines that, especially after consecutive 12-win seasons, an NFC East title and winning a playoff game. Because if you are saying either Dak goes to the NFC title game or else, and if it's the "or else," what would be the alternative? These quarterbacks don't grow on trees. And again, Dak is not out there playing singles, as Bill Parcells would say about quarterbacks. Remember, and a good example would be, Dak put up 31 points as a rookie in that 2016 season playoff game against Green Bay and got beat, 34-31, on a walk-off field goal. In the 2018 season second round loss to the Rams, the defense gave up 273 yards rushing and 30 points. His fault they got beat 30-22? I would, the Cowboys would, and a reasonable person would agree, no it isn't a make-or-break season.


https://www.dallascowboys.com/news/mailbag-is-2023-make-or-break-year-for-dak
 
Blitzen said:
Getting to a conference championship game and performing great would be close to getting over the hump. Short of that is just a laundry list of also rans. Mahomes carried a clipboard for 1 year. Aaron Rodgers held one for like 3-4 years.
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Alex Smith and Brett Favre were aging QBs with a lot of tread on them when their teams used first round picks on a QB. Both Kansas City and Green Bay were planning on moving and they prepared themselves. Dak still has a lot of years left and the Cowboys haven’t given up on him. We’ll see how they feel about him after this season.
 
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