How Much Longer For Shanahan?

realtick;4228772 said:
Isn't he the one putting it together though?

He passed on Newton, Ponder and Gabbert in favor of going with Beck and Grossman as his QBs.

Yes he is and he has made some terrible moves. He's absolutely butchered the QB situation starting with bringing in McFlabb who stunk. Rex and Beck are awful too but MS is so arrogant and thinks in his system he can turn them in to good QB's, both of those guys suck and its no secret..
 
The30YardSlant;4228815 said:
And he was 3-1 until he lost every single offensive weapon he had and two starting linemen. Their best offensive weapon right now is Fred Davis.

Look who they beat, the Giants missing 7 starters, the horrible Cards who they struggled with at home, and the winless Rams at the time who took them down to the wire. That 3-1 record was a HUGE JOKE and its showing now...
 
realtick;4228825 said:
My bad, you're right. I guess I should say he passed on Ponder.

Shanahan will get his full contract and then some.

Gabbert is terrible and Ponder was a major reach. I'd much rather have Kerrigan.

Not to mention the QBs in this upcoming draft are better than anything available to the Commanders in this past one.

Another game where if the Skins had a QB, they most likely win...
 
The30YardSlant;4228765 said:
To be fair, he's a good coach in an impossible situation. Nobody could win with that team as it stand snow.
Just a question,if you take away the elway years,what has this guy done and dont forget,when he took over denver,they were already a SB team.:star:
 
Sonny#9;4232006 said:
Shanahan will get his full contract and then some.

Gabbert is terrible and Ponder was a major reach. I'd much rather have Kerrigan.

Not to mention the QBs in this upcoming draft are better than anything available to the Commanders in this past one.

Another game where if the Skins had a QB, they most likely win...

Ding.

Everyone in the DC media loved the draft strategy

"Build the team up and THEN get your QB"

Which is what Shanny has been doing.

Of course there were going to be losses. The worst thing to happen was the 3-1 start. The team was in a major ditch and it'll take years to recover from it.

Beckman was not a long term solution at QB at all. Beck signed a 2 year deal last year, and Grossman a 1 year deal this offseason. Nobody seems to get that point.

I am just dissapointed the tank job didn't start in week 1. We would actually be in great shape if the Colts were giving some semblance of effort. Who knew they would be this bad

Gabbert wasn't the guy at 10. Ponder a major reach value wise at 12. Dalton in round 2 would have been excellent, but its still early and I am not sold on him being a franchise changer. I think he might max out at Matt Hasselback in his prime ability.

The Commanders need a franchise changer and those guys hopefully will be in this draft at QB. The only last year was Cam and he was picked number 1 overall
 
bigE79;4232051 said:
Just a question,if you take away the elway years,what has this guy done and dont forget,when he took over denver,they were already a SB team.:star:

You mean other than take Jake Plummer to the AFC Title Game? Let me say that again. JAKE PLUMMER in the AFC Title game.

I love this argument too. Like it's a piece of cake to win back-to-back titles.
 
Shanny has a worse record at this time than Jim Zorn had after the same number of games, lets me repeat that JIM ZORN...but I do like the Kerigan kid he looks like a player.
 
DCBoysfan;4232235 said:
Shanny has a worse record at this time than Jim Zorn had after the same number of games, lets me repeat that JIM ZORN...but I do like the Kerigan kid he looks like a player.

Even worse comparison than the "John Elway" Argument. Shanahan was handed the worst Commanders team in their history. They won only 4 games, despite having an NFL record 6 consecutive weeks playing winless teams...
 
MS and the Foreskins SUCK. His team has gotten WORSE in this his 2nd season and he picked these players. He totally threw up all over himself in handling the QB situation and he went out and paid Bowen and Cofield big loot to stop the run and teams have been running a dump truck thru them. You can come in here and justify all you want but the proof is on sundays and there yall SUCK... I live here and I can tell you, your fans are fed up and pissed off.
 
Sonny#9;4232133 said:
You mean other than take Jake Plummer to the AFC Title Game? Let me say that again. JAKE PLUMMER in the AFC Title game.

Amazing that Vince Tobin didn't get more coaching kudos considering he took JAKE PLUMMER to the 2nd round of the playoffs in 1998, and that was just JAKE PLUMMERS second year as a starter in the NFL.

Still, that was a great coaching feat for Shanny 8-9 years ago. No doubt.
 
I think Shanny is still a solid coach. i think he's probably in one of those situations where he's screwed cause he's not likely to ever live up to the expectations that have been created of him because he had a team that won back to back Superbowls with one of the top 5 QBs of all time on the team.

Shanny fielded some competitive teams, at times, after Elway but it just seems like year after year his teams just lost a bit more and got a bit worse. I'm just not sure, in the long haul, that he'll ever get himself back to where he was.

But, in reality, that's nothing new. How many coaches ever really do get one team to the top like that and then turn another team around afterwards in the NFL?

Jimmy didn't do it. Ditka didn't do it. Joe Gibbs...Holmgren...etc.

It just seems that coaches who have had major success with one team are never able to get anywhere near the same success with another one.
 
Sonny#9;4232133 said:
You mean other than take Jake Plummer to the AFC Title Game? Let me say that again. JAKE PLUMMER in the AFC Title game.

I love this argument too. Like it's a piece of cake to win back-to-back titles.
Did i say it was,my point was when he got to denver they already had a sb caliber team and damn you make it sound like plummer was a complete bum,i guarantee if you guys had him you would be over 500 right now.hwtr
 
I love seeing the Commanders in freefall.

Fans predicting Super Bowl after Week 3, and now this. LOVE IT.
 
casmith07;4232656 said:
I love seeing the Commanders in freefall.

Fans predicting Super Bowl after Week 3, and now this. LOVE IT.

These posts crack me up. Who was predicting a Superbowl after a week 3 loss in Dallas? There are plenty of us fans who post on this site, so it shouldn't be hard to find
 
SkinsHokieFan;4232793 said:
These posts crack me up. Who was predicting a Superbowl after a week 3 loss in Dallas? There are plenty of us fans who post on this site, so it shouldn't be hard to find

I recall seeing something from ES posted here about going to the SB. Of course, that site can't be taken seriously.

:p:
 
Something that also has not been stated.
Shanny, has not had a good playoff run since the NFL made his cut blocking scheme illegal!
The careers of many Oakland, San Diego, and KC defensive players have been greatly extended since that day
 
mldardy;4228785 said:
Well Mike Lombardi, 'football expert', said they would win the division. BTW has anyone seen that guy lately. Seemed like he has disappeared from NFLN.


Yeah, I noticed that he seems to be pretty invisible lately. Of course when you make such an awesomely stupid prediction like that you should disapear.
 
1fisher;4232929 said:
I recall seeing something from ES posted here about going to the SB. Of course, that site can't be taken seriously.

:p:

I seem to recall Art prior to our game basically saying their team has "arrived". :lmao2:
 
SkinsHokieFan;4232793 said:
These posts crack me up. Who was predicting a Superbowl after a week 3 loss in Dallas? There are plenty of us fans who post on this site, so it shouldn't be hard to find

On your sports talk radio the host were talking 1st rd bye and homefield advantage. Kevin Sheehan on WTEM and his call in buddies were all over it..
 
You can't really hold all Skins fans responsible for the stupidity of their local media though.

I mean look at the local media in Dallas? Do you want people to put blame on you for that mess?
 
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