How was that Cin ball when they didn't get a first down after the touch?

[RonWashington]

Let’s see what the board thinks . Go after the punter and live with this catastrophe or let a Turpin or an Aubrey contribute with a win .

The guy who Sydia says knew the “ rules “ but gave Cincy the ball the guy on IR until 20 mins before kickoff let’s let him decide . These coaches make good $$ to make smart decisions this one was idiotic .

 

[CarolinaFathead]

A punt is not “ bombing a kickoff “ . So take the ball out of Turpins hands potentially or give the offense a chance to give Aubrey a chance to “ boom the game winning “ FG the guy can “ boom “ one from 60 .

Aubrey of even Turpint most talented ST players but no let’s go after the punter and take our chances . Oh boy some fans accept any loss any way served it’s per usual of what goes on with this team .

We weren’t schemed to block a punt. We were schemed for a punt return.

Cincinnati blew an assignment and let a guy come in untouched. What do you want that guy to do? Not try and block the punt?

 

[FVSTONE]

I swear that didn’t used to a first down. Yeah, we touched it beyond the line. But even when they recovered, it was well behind the first down line. Doesn’t make any sense that it’s Cin ball in that case. Should still be fourth down.

Okay, I’m sure I don’t know the rule but still.

Of course, how in the heck do we still have professional football players that don’t know you’re supposed to leave that ball alone. I swear the ball found the only player that didn’t know that rule. Everyone else in the stadium, including the toddlers in attendance, knew the deal.

The block was great, but it was the second touching of the ball that cost the Cowboys. Had Cinny recovered the ball short of the 1st down marker it would have been the Cowboy's ball, but when the ball was touched by the Cowboys the second time it was as if a punt returner bobbled the ball, and it became a live ball.

 

[FVSTONE]

I swear that didn’t used to a first down. Yeah, we touched it beyond the line. But even when they recovered, it was well behind the first down line. Doesn’t make any sense that it’s Cin ball in that case. Should still be fourth down.

Okay, I’m sure I don’t know the rule but still.

Of course, how in the heck do we still have professional football players that don’t know you’re supposed to leave that ball alone. I swear the ball found the only player that didn’t know that rule. Everyone else in the stadium, including the toddlers in attendance, knew the deal.

All we needed was a little snow and Leon Lett on that play...........LOL!

 

[Ben7]

I swear that didn’t used to a first down. Yeah, we touched it beyond the line. But even when they recovered, it was well behind the first down line. Doesn’t make any sense that it’s Cin ball in that case. Should still be fourth down.

Okay, I’m sure I don’t know the rule but still.

Of course, how in the heck do we still have professional football players that don’t know you’re supposed to leave that ball alone. I swear the ball found the only player that didn’t know that rule. Everyone else in the stadium, including the toddlers in attendance, knew the deal.

The rule is, if a punt passes the line of scrimmage. Whether it’s blocked or not. And the receiving team touches the ball…. The ball is live.

That’s the rule. It’s the correct calll. Happened a few years ago to the cowboys too. Because it’s a dumb pathetic franchise.

Furthermore, According to Opta Stats, in the last 10 NFL seasons, only twice has a partially blocked punt that traveled fewer than 20 yards been touched by the receiving team and recovered by the punting team for a new set of downs. Both came against the Cowboys at AT&T Stadium (Broncos in 2021, Bengals in Week 14). Dallas would also lose that game against Denver, 30-16, but finish 12-5 on the season!!! McCarthy was our Coach then.

Amani Oruwariye #27 the guilty culprit from last Night, played four games in the middle of the season before an injury against the 49ers landed him on IR.
Oruwariye returned to practice this week and was called up before the game.
Furthermore since Amani Oruwariye has played in the NFL for five seasons: Homie should know the rule!!! hehe lol

• 2019: Drafted by the Detroit Lions in the fifth round, 146th overall
  
  
• 2020–2022: Played for the Detroit Lions
  
  
• 2023: Played for the New York Giants
  
  
• 2024–present: Plays for the Dallas Cowboys

I don't guess the Special Teams coach reminded him of the rule during practice last week or before the game! lol

 

[Ben7]

They should have left Amani with the Giants.

 

[mrmojo]

Is this a serious question?

 

[Whirlwin]

Right, but I think his point is it wasn't past the line of gain. I don't agree with the rule but it is what i

The rule is, if a punt passes the line of scrimmage. Whether it’s blocked or not. And the receiving team touches the ball…. The ball is live.

That’s the rule. It’s the correct calll. Happened a few years ago to the cowboys too. Because it’s a dumb pathetic franchise.

The ball is live the second he blocked it. That’s the touch. And you take it from there.

 

[Chocolate Lab]

The ball is live the second he blocked it. That’s the touch. And you take it from there.

No, it has to be touched beyond the LOS. That's why the kicking team can't just recover a blocked ball and it's theirs.

 

[Whirlwin]

No, it has to be touched beyond the LOS. That's why the kicking team can't just recover a blocked ball and it's theirs.

Yes, they can, as long as it goes past the line of first down , at least that’s what I was just told , in the point of all this is imagine thinking this all in a split moment like the defender had to do

 

[Whirlwin]

No, it has to be touched beyond the LOS. That's why the kicking team can't just recover a blocked ball and it's theirs.

Not the line of scrimmage, the line of first down. So you’re telling me the ball has to be touched twice once by the blocker and once by the defender. I’ve heard so many different variations. I’m too lazy to look up the rule myself lol

 

[KingCorcoran]

No, it has to be touched beyond the LOS. That's why the kicking team can't just recover a blocked ball and it's theirs.

The team punting the ball can recover a blocked punt and advance it no matter where the ball is.

 

[HungryLion]

The ball is live the second he blocked it. That’s the touch. And you take it from there.

No. If no other cowboys player touches the ball after the block. Then Cincinnati would not get possession.

 

[JoeKing]

It's a rule that needs to be changed.

 

[sideon]

Let’s see what the board thinks . Go after the punter and live with this catastrophe or let a Turpin or an Aubrey contribute with a win .

The guy who Sydia says knew the “ rules “ but gave Cincy the ball the guy on IR until 20 mins before kickoff let’s let him decide . These coaches make good $$ to make smart decisions this one was idiotic .

It wasn't even a punt block play, the guy just got through so there's no reason to be made at the play call. If the player doesn't touch the ball then Aubrey is already in great position with about 10 more yards to kick the game winner.

It's a rule that needs to be changed.

No one complained about the rule before, so this is just a fanbase being mad that the rule went against the team.

 

[MarcusRock]

Have you forgotten the Bengals had made it clear they were not going to let him get many returns? They bombed every kick off. And there is an assumption 1) he can even make a return 2) the Bengals don't just launch it out of bounds. I mean the guy's previous punt was a 61 yard punt with 52 of those yards in the air. He easily could have angled the ball out of bounds and put the Cowboys at around the 30 or so yard line.

Saying blocking the punt was a bad idea is easily the silliest thing I have ever heard.

On the replay from behind the punter, you clearly see him angling his kick to the right and Turpin in the distance moving that way so he was aiming for that sideline in some fashion.

 

[MarcusRock]

Cincinnati blew an assignment and let a guy come in untouched. What do you want that guy to do? Not try and block the punt?

Yes. He wants him to break through the line and then pull up and put both hands up and tell the punter, "no, no, you're good" and let him punt. Lol.

 

[goshann]

The team punting the ball can recover a blocked punt and advance it no matter where the ball is.

No they can’t

If the blocked punt goes beyond the LOS it is treated identical to a regular punt and can’t be advanced or recovered by the punting team unless the receiving team touches it

 

[Chuck 54]

Right, but I think his point is it wasn't past the line of gain. I don't agree with the rule but it is what it is.

The minute the punted ball crosses the line of scrimmage, possession has changed. It’s the Cowboys ball whether they field it or not. It rolls dead or is touched down…..or the punt is fielded and returned. Leave it alone…great. Field it and drop down…great. Field it and return it….even better. Muff it….it‘s now a live ball. Whoever recovers it starts a new possession. There is no first down line to gain after the punt crosses the line of scrimmage because possession has changed.

Conversely, when a punt is blocked and remains behind the line of scrimmage, if the punting team recovers it and runs past the line to gain, that’s a first down for them because until that punted ball crosses the line of scrimmage, they are the offense. Once it crosses the line, a partial block if you will, they are on defense and the receiving team is the offense.

 

[TRUTH87]

i get the rule. ball is live once it crosses LOS. how it crosses it matters and they ignore that. Dallas blocked it… and ball went forward somehow.

if punt had happened normal and dallas touches it that’s another story. but you got to reward team who blocks it.