How was that Cin ball when they didn't get a first down after the touch?

[erod]

The “rule” is an embarrassment. You effectively rewarded the team that got shut down by defense to make it 4th and 26 and then take away a blocked punt because a player who never had possession of the ball just touches it. The receiver can catch a ball and not make two steps and get it knocked out and it’s an incomplete pass — no change of possession. It’s a travesty of epic proportions and completely illogical.

No. It's a punt once it goes beyond the line of scrimmage.

It's the same as a muffed punt. No different.

 

[Creeper]

I think it is a bad rule but it is the rule. I think the confusion is if the offense fumbles the ball and it is touched by the defense and the offense recovers it, and it is a 4th down, the ball must go past the line to gain for the offense to keep it.

On the punt, once it passes the LOS, even if tipped or blocked, it is treated like an ordinary punt.

I do think the better rule would be the ball has to travel past the line to gain for the kicking team to retain the ball.

But no excuses. It was a stupid play by the Cowboys player and he should have known better. Any time a kick is blocked unless it goes past the LOS, get away from it. I have no idea what Oruwarye was thinking he was going to do with the ball.

 

[RonWashington]

For starters, after the game, it was reported the player knew the rule but got caught up in the moment and had a brain fart.

Going for the punt block was a fine call. Not the mistake you all think it was.

I mean you guys are also missing a big problem with your theory - the offense had a bunch of three and outs and might have struggled to even get in FG range. Maybe they figured the punt block was the only way to make sure they were close enough to Aubrey’s range.

Turpin . Have you forgotten his return capabilities . And the player “ getting caught up in the moment “ is exactly why you let the Bengals punt and let the game unfold. .

 

[eromeopolk]

I swear that didn’t used to a first down. Yeah, we touched it beyond the line. But even when they recovered, it was well behind the first down line. Doesn’t make any sense that it’s Cin ball in that case. Should still be fourth down.

Okay, I’m sure I don’t know the rule but still.

Of course, how in the heck do we still have professional football players that don’t know you’re supposed to leave that ball alone. I swear the ball found the only player that didn’t know that rule. Everyone else in the stadium, including the toddlers in attendance, knew the deal.

Think of it as a fumbled punt return. The offense touching it makes it a live ball. PETER PETER PETER!!!!!!!!!

 

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You're the regimes perfect fan

im fine with that, and you being the weirdo. good deal

 

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Ok, you can sit in your little home, alone, watching the game, calling it a fumble when a kick bounces off of someone. Don't forget to shower every now and then.

what a strange reply

 

[glimmerman]

He should have just fell on the ball. Against the commanders the guy that picked up the onside kick and ran it in got his butt chewed for not falling on it. The punter bumped him. If he fumbles that we would have likely lost. We had plenty of chances to win that game last night and cinci kept trying to give it to us. MM can’t call a game. His poor choice to go pass happy when Rico was ripping them up cost us badly. Rush missed a wide open TE that had nobody in front of him. Threw it at his feet. He didn’t play well. MM knew this and went pass happy. These are the games you need to use Luepke on dump offs. I would swear MM over looked this team.

 

[TheDude]

im fine with that, and you being the weirdo. good deal

LOL. I'll take that a badge of honor coming from the Tim Waltz of Cowboys fans

 

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LOL. I'll take that a badge of honor from the Tim Waltz of Cowboys fans

ahh... lock step weirdo ideologies too. all makes sense now. wear it with pride.

 

[TheDude]

ahh... lock step weirdo ideologies too. all makes sense now. wear it with pride.

.....and your originality that 4 months old.

 

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.....and your originality that 4 months old.

a scholar as well eh? constructing coherent thoughts can be difficult. i believe in you though. wouldn't call you a loser for making a mistake

 

[CarolinaFathead]

You also lose possession when a safety occurs.

But yes, a new stat would be nice. They change the rules all the time, they can easily add a new stat to track.

Just as a follow-up, I googled whether a muffed punt is statistically registered as a fumble and it is not. It’s simply called a muffed punt anytime a player on the receiving team touches it. So they already do exactly what you’re arguing for.

I further looked up the NFL rules and under the section for “Fumbles”, the first item mentions that a “muffed punt” and a “fumble” should be considered distinct from each other, even though they functionally result in the same conclusion, because of the fact there are rules specific to fumbles that don’t correlate with a muffed point, such as an offensive player not advancing a fumble on fourth down if you’re not the ball carrier.

Good call.

 

[Londonboy]

The “rule” is an embarrassment. You effectively rewarded the team that got shut down by defense to make it 4th and 26 and then take away a blocked punt because a player who never had possession of the ball just touches it. The receiver can catch a ball and not make two steps and get it knocked out and it’s an incomplete pass — no change of possession. It’s a travesty of epic proportions and completely illogical.

Agree completely.
Somewhat overdramatic.

 

[Londonboy]

It’s a PUNT you touch it and don’t maintain possession it becomes a fumble,come on

Isn't it a muff? (stop snickering).

 

[Sydla]

Turpin . Have you forgotten his return capabilities . And the player “ getting caught up in the moment “ is exactly why you let the Bengals punt and let the game unfold. .

Have you forgotten the Bengals had made it clear they were not going to let him get many returns? They bombed every kick off. And there is an assumption 1) he can even make a return 2) the Bengals don't just launch it out of bounds. I mean the guy's previous punt was a 61 yard punt with 52 of those yards in the air. He easily could have angled the ball out of bounds and put the Cowboys at around the 30 or so yard line.

Saying blocking the punt was a bad idea is easily the silliest thing I have ever heard.

 

[Sydla]

Agree completely.
Somewhat overdramatic.

It's silly logic.

Because it's no different than the team that stopped someone on 3rd and 26 and then the returner muffs the punt. The same "that team is being punished" logic can be used.

LOL, only in Dallas would the fanbase be upset at the rule and not the fact that the idiot player did something almost everyone knows not to do. I mean holy crap, on the replay you can see Liafau, a rookie, running towards the ball screaming and waving his arms to get away.

 

[TheDude]

a scholar as well eh? constructing coherent thoughts can be difficult. i believe in you though. wouldn't call you a loser for making a mistake

Its rare to see a person express dilettantism with such vigor. You change your username to Naif and really complete that hero's journey

 

[CanadianCowboysFan]

I swear that didn’t used to a first down. Yeah, we touched it beyond the line. But even when they recovered, it was well behind the first down line. Doesn’t make any sense that it’s Cin ball in that case. Should still be fourth down.

Okay, I’m sure I don’t know the rule but still.

Of course, how in the heck do we still have professional football players that don’t know you’re supposed to leave that ball alone. I swear the ball found the only player that didn’t know that rule. Everyone else in the stadium, including the toddlers in attendance, knew the deal.

it's a stupid rule but it's the rule

 

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Its rare to see a person express dilettantism with such vigor. You change your username to Naif and really complete that hero's journey

following me into other threads wasn't enough? you're still at it? lol. you not being able to put together a readable sentence must have struck a nerve. had to consult the thesaurus as well huh? and not even using those big words properly. high comedy my man. but i have work to do. i'm sorry for ruffling your feathers so hard.

 

[RonWashington]

Have you forgotten the Bengals had made it clear they were not going to let him get many returns? They bombed every kick off. And there is an assumption 1) he can even make a return 2) the Bengals don't just launch it out of bounds. I mean the guy's previous punt was a 61 yard punt with 52 of those yards in the air. He easily could have angled the ball out of bounds and put the Cowboys at around the 30 or so yard line.

Saying blocking the punt was a bad idea is easily the silliest thing I have ever heard.

A punt is not “ bombing a kickoff “ . So take the ball out of Turpins hands potentially or give the offense a chance to give Aubrey a chance to “ boom the game winning “ FG the guy can “ boom “ one from 60 .

Aubrey of even Turpint most talented ST players but no let’s go after the punter and take our chances . Oh boy some fans accept any loss any way served it’s per usual of what goes on with this team .