CFZ How wide of a gap is there between the Cowboys from the 49ers/Eagles

[ESisback]

Youre a nice man! Move along then if Im not worth listening to. The old you dont know football axiom. .
just wow. If someone disagrees with you, you resort to insults. How grown up. Again, most experts and football fans all around the league would agree with my statement. I hope im wrong and there is no gap. Look at any power ranking and show me one where Dallas is ranked with Philly.
But you are right and everyone else is wrong. Must be nice up on that high horse.
I will relent somewhat and say right now its all a blank slate and hopefully Dallas is indeed even or ahead of Philly.

That “Philly and San Fran is superior” crap is a media thing, embraced by the “experts” to incite debate and garner click$. Much of it is trendy, manufactured drama—comfort food for the easily lead. Teams are actually much closer—the line between success and failure is often very thin.

 

[Bigrandrn]

There’s not a gap IMO. Dak needs to play better against the 49ers. Simple as that. Cowboys showed last year they can play with the Eagles. They are of the same caliber.

Right…..we were clamping down SFs offense but Dak played bad….we were in that game easily. Same with Philly…..we can play with anyone with our D and IF….IF Dak plays more like he did against TB than SF

 

[CowboysLakerBamaFan]

No, what I'm saying is they were evenly matched and just a few key plays could have changed which way the game went. Kittle makes a ridiculous circus catch then Diggs drops an INT. Those (plus Dak's stupid red zone INT) were basically the three key plays of the game.

Well a good number of games are decided by those handle of key plays! The announcers say that all the time. "This game will come down to a few key plays...and whichever team makes them will win"

What you just described is the exact difference between teams that win a lot...and those that come up short.

75% of the league could at their games and go "we're 3 plays a game from being 13-4...instead of 6-11"

 

[CowboysLakerBamaFan]

That “Philly and San Fran is superior” crap is a media thing, embraced by the “experts” to incite debate and garner click$. Much of it is trendy, manufactured drama—comfort food for the easily lead.

Maybe it also has to do with the fact that over the last 25 years the Niners and Eagles have been going to tons of NFC CG and Superbowls...while we haven't won a single divisional game, including our current Dak-led cowboys? Think that might have something to do with it too?

 

[TrailBlazer]

There isn't a gap. Dak plays slightly better, Pollard doesn't get hurt, or a few plays go our way (like Diggs catching that INT) and the Cowboys beat the 49ers. Unfortunately nothing ever goes our way in a divisional round game.

Its never the cowboys fault, just bad luck is all.

 

[Redline360]

Most of the talking media heads and experts think philly and the nines would be the top two teams and I would have to agree somewhat. Don't think there's that much of a gap between them and the cowboys.

While Hurts had one hell of a season I'm still holding off on where to place him based off one good year. Especially playing on an extremely talented team on both sides of the ball.

Dak just needs to step up that is all.

 

[ESisback]

Maybe it also has to do with the fact that over the last 25 years the Niners and Eagles have been going to tons of NFC CG and Superbowls...while we haven't won a single divisional game, including our current Dak-led cowboys? Think that might have something to do with it too?

Sure, a little, but it’s ‘trendy cool and super funny’ to dish snark on the Dallas Dumpster Fire!

 

[CowboysLakerBamaFan]

Insults? You are a Eagles fan what are you talking about?

What I'm talking about is you ran out of any sort of logical point in the discussion to make....and you knew it.... so you resorted to name calling. It's OK. You lost. No big deal.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

What I'm talking about is you ran out of any sort of logical point in the discussion to make....and you knew it.... so you resorted to name calling. It's OK. You lost. No big deal.

What name did I call you?

 

[ryanbabs]

There’s not a gap IMO. Dak needs to play better against the 49ers. Simple as that. Cowboys showed last year they can play with the Eagles. They are of the same caliber.

This 100%. I think it’s more mental than anything. At least in the playoffs.

 

[plasticman]

There is no gap.

I would have loved to see the outcome of the last playoff game if Pollard hadn't been hurt. If he had stayed healthy throughout the game then there is no telling what might have happened. even so, the Cowboys were always one play away from an even score with the 49ers.

As far as Philadelphia, Minshew is no slouch. he is probably the best backup in the league as far as genuine QB talent goes. It took a pick 6 by Dak to make the game as close as it was. I don't see how Jalen Hurts would have played that much better. Minchew threw for over 350 yards and two TD's and ran one in.

When the Eagles went up against the Cowboys in their first game it was 20-17 going into the 4th quarter with Cooper Rush. The game ended up 26-17 despite the Cowboys committing 10 penalties and 3 turnovers. Hurts threw 25 times, completing 15 for 155 and two redzone TD's. He was sacked 4 times. That's not exactly all world.

In their NFC championship game against the 49ers, the Eagles took advantage of 49ers misfortune as Purdy was injured early. Some of their scoring were the direct result of mistakes made by the 49ers backup QB as well as the 49ers resulting one dimensional attack.

I'm not saying the Cowboys were better than the Eagles or 49ers last season. I'm just saying that, if the aforementioned circumstances had been different, then the NFC Super Bowl representative could have been any one of the three.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

This 100%. I think it’s more mental than anything. At least in the playoffs.

Agreed. Just gotta get over that hump.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

Take away homer thoughts, both the 49ers/Eagles last yr were clearly better teams then the Cowboys:

-Both teams were absolutely loaded personnel wise. Eagles lost arguably their best defensive player in Hargrave, who signed with the 49ers. Lost their coordinators on both sides of the football and now will be counting on several young prospects to make an impact. Eagles are quite like the Cowboy team, but still have better players inside the trenches on both side of the football. Eagles might see a little step back due to a lot unproven talent.

-The 49ers, in my opinion are a different animal, health remains a concern, along with their QB position. Will teams figure out Purdy? The same can be said about Hurts. Usually, when given an off-season, defensive coordinators will find weaknesses to exploit. Will they find away to overcome the so called 2nd yr jinx? How do teams successfully attack the 49er defense?

-Cowboys definitely can play with both teams, but they will need to play more clean and take advantage of their opponents mistakes. Still believe their is a gap. but not as wide as previous seasons.

Dominant DL that can wreck havoc with only the front 4, consistently and all year long into the playoffs.

 

[Kingofholland]

There’s not a gap IMO. Dak needs to play better against the 49ers. Simple as that. Cowboys showed last year they can play with the Eagles. They are of the same caliber.

100%, all teams have strengths and weaknesses. If we're focused solely on the dline on paper it looks like the Eagles have an edge. But they lost their best interior player. 2 of their dlinemen are nearing the end of their careers. They replaced with 2 young talented but unproven players. Sweat and Reddick are good players, even though Reddick is a far better pass rusher than run defender. I would still give the Eagles the edge on the dline because their interior depth, but that's one position on defense.

 

[Havic]

The gap is a combination of Dak + Coaching / Scheme.

49ers make it to the NFCCG with a 3rd string qb. Eagles make it there because they schemed Hurts into a system to where he can succeed.

We are right there. Just need Dak to play better, scheme / management to improve, and need better special teams play (kicker)

 

[CowboyRoy]

Take away homer thoughts, both the 49ers/Eagles last yr were clearly better teams then the Cowboys:

-Both teams were absolutely loaded personnel wise. Eagles lost arguably their best defensive player in Hargrave, who signed with the 49ers. Lost their coordinators on both sides of the football and now will be counting on several young prospects to make an impact. Eagles are quite like the Cowboy team, but still have better players inside the trenches on both side of the football. Eagles might see a little step back due to a lot unproven talent.

-The 49ers, in my opinion are a different animal, health remains a concern, along with their QB position. Will teams figure out Purdy? The same can be said about Hurts. Usually, when given an off-season, defensive coordinators will find weaknesses to exploit. Will they find away to overcome the so called 2nd yr jinx? How do teams successfully attack the 49er defense?

-Cowboys definitely can play with both teams, but they will need to play more clean and take advantage of their opponents mistakes. Still believe their is a gap. but not as wide as previous seasons.

Its not that wide actually.

The problem is beating both of them on the road last year. When your Oline is the problem and those are two of the best defenses in the NFL, its an issue.

 

[KingCorcoran]

I don’t see the Eagles/Niners as “clearly better”, and that’s NOT “Homer Talk”. The Niners only beat us 19-12, and THAT was because our QB had his worst game and threw 2 picks. We split with Philly, so it’s not clean cut there, either!

As far as 2023, MAYBE the gap is even smaller. We’ve improved our team, but Philly? They have a tougher schedule, and have a new DC and OC. San Fran is more “unstable” at QB. We’ll see. Look forward to it!

The Eagles have a tougher schedule than last year, so do the Cowboys. And the Cowboys’ schedule is tougher than the Eagles.

 

[CowboysLakerBamaFan]

What name did I call you?

Look...don't try to lure me into some kind of trap of circular logic. I'll escape every time! I know...that you know....that I know better than that.
HA HA HA.

 

[CowboysLakerBamaFan]

Sure, a little, but it’s ‘trendy cool and super funny’ to dish snark on the Dallas Dumpster Fire!

Idk.... every mainstream nfl mouthpiece I hear has Dallas squarely in the small top handful of teams in the nFC.

Pretty much everyone I hear has philly...Dallas...SF in the top group, in some order.....with really nobody else in the discussion.

That's what I hear on the TV and interwebs and whatnots.

 

[DandyDon52]

The 2 phil games last year , dont prove anything except if you dont have your main qb playing your going to lose.
Dak missed first game (although he was ready to play, jerry didnt want him to play and lose) and then hurts misses 2nd game.
So phil and dallas never played a real game last season.

However just imo had dallas beat SF, phil would have beat dallas in phil. Phil was clearly the best nfc team, and even if purdy doesnt get hurt
I think they would have beat SF too.

SF and dallas were fairly even, and yes dallas could have won that SF game if they had played better and mike and kellen had coached better.
But they would have lost the next week.

Now the teams have all changed a little, new coaches, players etc, so no telling what happens this season.
They are the top 3 teams at start of season, but some other teams may rise up to challenge them.
Detroit is one of those teams.

Dallas will be different, due to many changes, but homers tend to think it will ALL be for the better, and while possible, I think some will be
not so good lol. Have to wait and see, that is what makes it fun.