Howie: middle of NFL curve worse than taking risk and failing

[Romo_To_Dez]

He’s clearly a system QB and his running is what makes it go like it does.

You can’t pay a guy who is just a RPO guy.

Heck I’d take Dak over Hurts and it’s not even close.

He really hasn't been lighting it up during these playoffs. 154 yards against the Giants. 121 yards and TDs against the 49ers. He has improved from last season. but has been helped greatly by the team the Eagles front office put around him. Him having a medicre to bad performance in the Super Bowl, especially in a loss could definitely be something which makes the Eagles hesitant in playing him. As they might try to wait and see how he does when the Eagles lose free agency players and roster wise downgrades next season.

I think some are pushing him into the elite category to fast mainly due to the Eagles record. But there's still a significant gap between his tier and the tier of Mahomes.

 

[bottleKids]

Wait until Jalen Hurts needs to get paid a new contract next year. He will demand around $50 million/year. That, along with several other big contracts on the team, will pretty much destroy this dreamy Eagles franchise idea.

So much for kissing up to the enemy.

Yes you are right, but if they win the SB this year, they will have 2 in the last 6 years. Sign me up for that at any time. This is just me though.

 

[bottleKids]

Who cares? They had one of the easiest schedules this year, yet almost lost both times to us. They lucked out. With a harder schedule, I doubt they end up with the #1 rank heading into the playoffs, nor making it this far.

"Almost" ... Are we celebrating almost winning now? Their schedule is their schedule, just like ours is ours. The bottom line here is Jerry outwardly saying he is happy being middle of the road sucks to hear as a fan. At least for some fans.

 

[DZSierra]

He’s completely right but Jerry has found a business model that absolutely rakes in dividends by being “just good enough” to compete but “not good enough” to win. Keeps fans coming back for the breakthrough. Kind of genius when you think about it objectively. Sucks for us who are emotionally attached, however.

You're absolute correct. I'm looking to invest extra capital sitting in the bank and make more return on my money.

For the next 100 years, the Jone's family can be happy with their dividends on ownership with the cowboys as long as they are "in the hunt".

I'd respectfully argue that the "mystique" of the Cowboys "brand name" have helped Jerry pay his company dividends goes by the name of Tom Landry, Roger Staubach, Jimmy Johnson and Troy Aikman. Those are the men who built that name from the ground up.

If only government investments worked that way lmao!

 

[DZSierra]

Who cares? They had one of the easiest schedules this year, yet almost lost both times to us. They lucked out. With a harder schedule, I doubt they end up with the #1 rank heading into the playoffs, nor making it this far.

There is a fan about 20 years ago who made the same comment about someone lucking out.

Sorry, don't remember who he was because people only remember winners lmao!

 

[Romo_To_Dez]

Need for the Chiefs to win, because some of this hype around Hurts and Philly is getting out of hand. lol

 

[CowboyRoy]

Valuable due to positional value. One of the best? No, he's down on the list. Maybe in the 6-8 range.

Agreed completely. But thats up on the list if your 6-8. Its like some people think 6-10 is some horrible area.

Thats amazing you have a QB in the 6-8 range.

 

[StarOfGlory]

He really hasn't been lighting it up during these playoffs. 154 yards against the Giants. 121 yards and TDs against the 49ers. He has improved from last season. but has been helped greatly by the team the Eagles front office put around him. Him having a medicre to bad performance in the Super Bowl, especially in a loss could definitely be something which makes the Eagles hesitant in playing him. As they might try to wait and see how he does when the Eagles lose free agency players and roster wise downgrades next season.

I think some are pushing him into the elite category to fast mainly due to the Eagles record. But there's still a significant gap between his tier and the tier of Mahomes.

I think Hurts is hurt more than the Eagles were letting on. He missed some easy throws that he had been making all year.

 

[Aerolithe_Lion]

Agreed completely. But thats up on the list if your 6-8. Its like some people think 6-10 is some horrible area.

Thats amazing you have a QB in the 6-8 range.

he’s responding to your comment about Dak’s value on the cowboys, saying Dak is the 6th to 8th best Cowboy if you removed positional value.

Imagine if he were a tight end, and he dropped passes as often as he throws interceptions. The good would still outweigh and he’d be a fringe pro bowl caliber player, but that’s what Dalton Schultz is. That doesn’t come close to Micah, Zack, Treyvon, CeeDee, etc.

Geno Smith is also one of the most important Seahawks. And Jared Goff for the Lions. And Kyler Murray for the Cardinals. But that’s because of the position they play.

 

[JohnsKey19]

Simple….thinking what you already have or mid round rookies are just as good for a fraction of the cost.

The overrate their own, repeatedly….and if they really think that Elliott hasn’t lost anything, I’m not so sure what to think or expect anymore.

Im just hoping they don't really mean this. How could they, right?

 

[kskboys]

he’s responding to your comment about Dak’s value on the cowboys, saying Dak is the 6th to 8th best Cowboy if you removed positional value.

Imagine if he were a tight end, and he dropped passes as often as he throws interceptions. The good would still outweigh and he’d be a fringe pro bowl caliber player, but that’s what Dalton Schultz is. That doesn’t come close to Micah, Zack, Treyvon, CeeDee, etc.

Geno Smith is also one of the most important Seahawks. And Jared Goff for the Lions. And Kyler Murray for the Cardinals. But that’s because of the position they play.

Yup.

 

[exciter]

They also have 6 picks in the first 2 rounds over the next 2 years. 2023 1,1 2, 2024 1,2,2

Right, that’s rebuilding… not dynasty!

 

[Stash]

 

[DZSierra]

He really hasn't been lighting it up during these playoffs. 154 yards against the Giants. 121 yards and TDs against the 49ers. He has improved from last season. but has been helped greatly by the team the Eagles front office put around him.

By your line of reasoning, the front office of the Eagles won two conference games by a total score 69 to 14.

Give me that front office ANYDAY!

That's what I find somewhat scary. Hurts could light it up this Sunday, you just don't know.

 

[john van brocklin]

12-5 baby

Divisional playoff loss, baby

 

[exciter]

The reality is with the pay scale the for players today vs even 20 years ago, it's almost impossible to keep key GREAT players every single year to maintain the same Super Bowl caliber team.

Smart players will work their contract to help their team over time because they know they are on a great team. The five highest paid QB's right now? Matthew Stafford, Russell Wilson, Josh Allen, D Watson, Aaron Rogers.

Bradberry, White, Gardner Johnson, Sanders etc are going to be looking to cash in on this season. Cox, Hargrave, and Graham are all over 30 and are already a 29m cap hit between the 3. Doubt seriously Hargrave is interested in anything less than market value at 30. Cox and Graham would be making bad cap management worse. Kelce and Seamalo are in the same category… they do have Kelce’s replacement already in house!

 

[CowboyRoy]

he’s responding to your comment about Dak’s value on the cowboys, saying Dak is the 6th to 8th best Cowboy if you removed positional value.

Imagine if he were a tight end, and he dropped passes as often as he throws interceptions. The good would still outweigh and he’d be a fringe pro bowl caliber player, but that’s what Dalton Schultz is. That doesn’t come close to Micah, Zack, Treyvon, CeeDee, etc.

Geno Smith is also one of the most important Seahawks. And Jared Goff for the Lions. And Kyler Murray for the Cardinals. But that’s because of the position they play.

Dak is the #1 most important Cowboy. Parsons on defense.

And yah position has a lot to do with it. However up until Rush with a crazy streak from our defense winning games, without Dak this team was well below 500.

 

[john van brocklin]

You're unlikely to hit rock bottom. The league rewards rock bottom teams, not middling teams. The worst record you could have in this league is around .500

Agreed, not strong enough to contend.
Not weak enough to get great draft picks.
It's why I hated the Garrett 8 and 8 seasons.
We were stuck in football purgatory.

 

[Hawkeye0202]

As a Cowboy fan I approve of that lol.

I don’t think Philly is that stupid. Surely they know what he is and you can’t pay him.

If the Eagles win Sunday you can almost lock that figure in......Spotrac has Lamar Jackson valued at $52M WITHOUT a Super Bowl.

 

[Aerolithe_Lion]

Dak is the #1 most important Cowboy. Parsons on defense.

And yah position has a lot to do with it. However up until Rush with a crazy streak from our defense winning games, without Dak this team was well below 500.

I don’t think the point is that the team would be better if you played a backup caliber player instead of Dak Prescott, but that if the Cowboys attempted to improve the position then they would get over this hump. A QB with a higher ceiling would be more valuable in context.

You’d think it wouldn’t be easy to achieve this, but guys are seemingly available every offseason to upgrade. Dallas preferring Prescott over a Brady or a Rodgers or a Stafford is getting in people’s craws